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28 Apr 2025, 4:57 am

I am surprised that some are ignoring the scriptural past. In the past giants roamed the earth. Now before anyone gets skeptical, do some research.
What is rather odd about this is why for years, each time a giant skeleton was discovered in America, and the scientific archeological athorities took it over, they kept destroying the skeletons and this had been going on for years. But why? Why destroy history that matches biblical accounts? Why destroy anything if one is responsible for arceological museum records?
Giant skeletons have been found around the world. Some are massive. Others are not... The smaller ones stand about double the height of a man. The larger... Well, just their skull is at least half the height of an adult, if not more! And there are too many found in many places to ignore. Such a person when they were alive could have easily lifted quite a weight, even if they themselves had to use tools such as pulleys etc. Why is it so hard for people to imagine this when they imagine dinosaurs being very large. (Where the average size is actually the size of a small dog or cat, but there were some very large ones too!). Why do we find it so difficult to imagine that there were giant people roaming the earth? Eye witness accounts recorded in the scriptures. Is that not enough to make one want to look into it as a possibility?

AND, there are the hoaxes as well. Take Stone Henge, where there were many stones found, but they were fallen on the floor, and none of them were in the stone circle pattern. The smaller blue stones that came from Wales were transported there via lorry before the quarry in Pembrokeshire closed in the 1950's. Most of the stones were erected and positioned upright in concrete just before WW1 broke out in a bid to attract tourism as back then people started having access to transportation via the railways and the early busses where before that, ordinary people did not travel so much. Locals recorded these events when they erected the stones and the lorries bringing the blue stones from Wales, and took photographs. Always do your own research.

So yes, there are certainly some real things to find. MANY EXCITING DISCOVERIES! And it is exciting! Gets our minds going! :D

As sometimes the truth is more exciting them people believe!



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28 Apr 2025, 5:20 am

Almost all tribes have stories of giants. the bible referred to them as Nephilim while the ancient Greeks called them Gigantes.
Scientists working for the Smithsonian did publish articles about excavating giant skeletons unearthed in the US in the 1800s. When attempts were made to recover these skeletons they could not be located. I am not disputing they could have been misidentified, it's just they are not able to be located anymore.

Native American Stories speak of giants too.



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28 Apr 2025, 5:49 am

Why would scientists be totally fine with extinct dinosaurs but destroy the remains of extinct giant people? That sounds like total nonsense to me.


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28 Apr 2025, 3:01 pm

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Why would scientists be totally fine with extinct dinosaurs but destroy the remains of extinct giant people? That sounds like total nonsense to me.


You're just not looking at it though enough of a non-critical, conspiratorial lens. The devil put dinosaur bones there as a test of faith, and the devil's minions destroy proof of giants and the flood as another test of faith. :skull:


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29 Apr 2025, 3:05 am

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You're just not looking at it though enough of a non-critical, conspiratorial lens. The devil put dinosaur bones there as a test of faith, and the devil's minions destroy proof of giants and the flood as another test of faith. :skull:


Are you ridiculing native American people as well? For native American tribes in north America there are stories of great battles with giants who lived in their lands when they arrived (not to mention bigfoot).

One of my wife's distant relations married a local woman from the Maldive Islands in the Indian ocean, the Maldive Islanders have a tradition of giants called "Redin" who came to the island in olden days and built great pyramids of stone. they taught the islanders about civilisation and then left centuries ago. the pyramids were knocked down and made into Buddhist stupas after the islanders converted to Buddhism and then these were knocked down and made into mosques when the Maldive people were converted to islam.

In north America there a many megalithic structures scattered across both south and north America which the locals also claim were built by giants. the antiquity of these structures mean many are buried and/or converted to churches or mosques today.



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29 Apr 2025, 3:10 am

BillyTree wrote:
Why would scientists be totally fine with extinct dinosaurs but destroy the remains of extinct giant people? That sounds like total nonsense to me.


I can't find them now but there are plenty of journal articles published in the 1800s by eminent scientists and archaeologists who claim to have excavated giant skeletons 7-8 feet tall. By the 20th century there was an attempt to claim these were all hoaxes but to me this seems strange. I am not suggesting they really were giants, but their frequency of reporting from digs makes me wonder what they were.



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29 Apr 2025, 4:23 am

cyberdora wrote:
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You're just not looking at it though enough of a non-critical, conspiratorial lens. The devil put dinosaur bones there as a test of faith, and the devil's minions destroy proof of giants and the flood as another test of faith. :skull:


Are you ridiculing native American people as well? For native American tribes in north America there are stories of great battles with giants who lived in their lands when they arrived (not to mention bigfoot).


Are you suggesting we should accept myths as historical record uncritically? :scratch:


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29 Apr 2025, 6:07 am

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Are you suggesting we should accept myths as historical record uncritically? :scratch:


All myths are based on some kernel of truth. the Paiute Indians have stories of "Si-Te-Cah," a red-haired, white-skinned giant or "barbarians" who waged war on the Paiutes.

I mentioned the Maldive Islanders because their Redin are described as red haired giants as well. Explorer thor Heyadahl wrote about them in his book the Maldive Mystery published back in 1986
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/639350

I look for interesting patterns in history and this one is worth exploring...



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29 Apr 2025, 6:30 am

cyberdora wrote:
All myths are based on some kernel of truth. the Paiute Indians have stories of "Si-Te-Cah," a red-haired, white-skinned giant or "barbarians" who waged war on the Paiutes.

I look for interesting patterns in history and this one is worth exploring...


When the natives of Easter Island were asked how the Maoi were moved from the quarries to their positions, the natives said "They walked."

That's a myth too, but when someone demonstrates how that myth could have a kernal of truth, you dismissed the explanation as "stupid".

I'm just interested in how you choose which myths are worthy of consideration and which are nonsense?


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29 Apr 2025, 5:08 pm

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When the natives of Easter Island were asked how the Maoi were moved from the quarries to their positions, the natives said "They walked."


the people on Easter Island barely remember what their ancestors believed because the modern Easter Islanders are Spanish christians bought over from the mainland of South America who absorbed the 10-20 survivors left on the island. From the carvings there was a birdman cult which is similar to the carvings on Gobleke tepe which is 11,600 years old.

I also suspect the Egyptian, South Americans and Easter Islanders were not the builders of all the structures and a commonality across the world is older archaeology is technologically advanced > than what the newcomers demonstrated when they tried to replicate what they found.



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29 Apr 2025, 5:11 pm

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I'm just interested in how you choose which myths are worthy of consideration and which are nonsense?


those that follow a pattern, for example the universal belief in 7 spirit sisters who created the land/earth is common to aborigines of Australia and many other cultures separated by time and space. there is a sacred memory of the number 7 which is common across cultures.



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30 Apr 2025, 10:00 pm

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Are archaeologists now thought to be scientists?

No, although experimental archaeology does exist. Really, with how old some of this stuff is, it can be tough to find enough to actually work with. Experiments can at best establish if something could be done a certain thing with the level of development in an area and whether it's consistent with what has evidence for on the ground.

Which is tough, knowing how technology developed afterward does allow modern people to solve problems in different ways with the same set of available tools.



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30 Apr 2025, 11:26 pm

MatchboxVagabond wrote:
kokopelli wrote:
Are archaeologists now thought to be scientists?

No, although experimental archaeology does exist. Really, with how old some of this stuff is, it can be tough to find enough to actually work with. Experiments can at best establish if something could be done a certain thing with the level of development in an area and whether it's consistent with what has evidence for on the ground.

Which is tough, knowing how technology developed afterward does allow modern people to solve problems in different ways with the same set of available tools.


Actually, that was a rhetorical question intended to highlight the silliness of the argument.

Archaeologists can be quite interesting to talk to, but they are certainly not scientists by any stretch of the imagination.



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30 Apr 2025, 11:42 pm

Isn't archaeology a social science?
They make theories that rely on making a prediction and then checking if the model supports that prediction. That sounds like they're scientists by that metric.


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01 May 2025, 1:02 am

kokopelli wrote:
Archaeologists can be quite interesting to talk to, but they are certainly not scientists by any stretch of the imagination.


tell that to an archaeologist :lol:
https://www.arch.cam.ac.uk/about-us/arc ... al-science

Many archaeologists do excellent science with most things dug up that's dated 2000 years or more recent. Once you go back before Christ the science starts to get less and less accurate and there's more guess work. Part of the problem is with reliability of dating stone structures.



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01 May 2025, 4:11 am

You must have a very loose definition of "science".

Archaeologists may, in some instances, apply science to the their study, but that does not make them scientists.