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How psychotic are you?
Actively psychotic 3%  3%  [ 2 ]
Actively psychotic 3%  3%  [ 2 ]
Highly creative or schizotypal 13%  13%  [ 8 ]
Highly creative or schizotypal 13%  13%  [ 8 ]
Somewhat weird or eccentric 27%  27%  [ 16 ]
Somewhat weird or eccentric 27%  27%  [ 16 ]
Pretty ordinary 3%  3%  [ 2 ]
Pretty ordinary 3%  3%  [ 2 ]
Not psychotic at all 3%  3%  [ 2 ]
Not psychotic at all 3%  3%  [ 2 ]
Total votes : 60

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06 Aug 2005, 4:40 pm

In my last topic, I asked Are You Neurotic? Now I'm wondering how psychotic you are. Psychosis itself is an episode of psychological break from reality. However, personality traits found in actively psychotic individuals are distributed in the population at large. Hans Eysenck attempted to measure this as psychoticism, which actually comes closer to measuring psychopathy than psychotic tendencies. Another measure of psychotic personality traits is called schizotypy; it is a more accurate measure of the classically psychotic characteristics:


  • Unusual experiences
    • Hears things with no recognizable source
    • Experiences things as more vivid at times, more dull and flat at others
    • Feels bodily sensations with no identifiable cause
    • Sees things that aren't there
    • Nebulous feelings of being watched or persecuted
  • Cognitive disorganization
    • Tangentiality in conversation
    • Racing thoughts
    • Difficulty finding words
    • Invents new words or uses words with nonstandard meanings
    • Loses train of thought
  • Introverted anhedonia
    • Little pleasure in life
    • Lack of emotional expression
    • Afraid of unfamiliar situations
    • Anxious
  • Impulsive nonconformity
    • Bizarre emotional response
    • Behavior that is detrimental to self or others without forethought
    • Ignores social convention



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06 Aug 2005, 4:49 pm

not at all psychotic. this axe is merely for ... erm ... :oops:



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06 Aug 2005, 6:07 pm

what dose nortic mean :?


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06 Aug 2005, 7:33 pm

vetivert wrote:
not at all psychotic. this axe is merely for ... erm ... :oops:

Psychopathy (i.e., sociopathy, antisocial personality disorder, or dissocial personality disorder) is not the same thing as psychosis. Lay people frequently confuse the two psychiatric concepts, especially in the colloquial term psycho, which implies some jumble of psychoticish symptoms with a sadistic, controlling, and antisocial bent.



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06 Aug 2005, 9:15 pm

NeantHumain wrote:
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  • Unusual experiences
    • Experiences things as more vivid at times, more dull and flat at others
    • Nebulous feelings of being watched or persecuted
    • Tangentiality in conversation
    • Difficulty finding words
    • Invents new words or uses words with nonstandard meanings
    • Loses train of thought
  • Introverted anhedonia
    • Little pleasure in life
    • Lack of emotional expression
    • Afraid of unfamiliar situations
  • Impulsive nonconformity
    • Bizarre emotional response
    • Behavior that is detrimental to self or others without forethought
    • Ignores social convention


I'm not sure about anhedonia, but I fit all these descriptions most of the time. Too many things depend on mood. You should simplify the terminology for people who get confused by fancy words. So I guess I'm Psychotic?


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07 Aug 2005, 7:35 am

ok i have no idea what you are all taking about
it doisnt sound like it has anything to do with autism :?:


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07 Aug 2005, 11:10 am

The first diagnose I got was schizotypal.



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08 Aug 2005, 8:52 am

I had some pretty wild stuff like this happen to me on concerta/ritalen. psychois by amphetamine is no fun, I'll tell you all that.


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08 Aug 2005, 6:19 pm

NeantHumain wrote:
In my last topic, I asked Are You Neurotic? Now I'm wondering how psychotic you are. Psychosis itself is an episode of psychological break from reality. However, personality traits found in actively psychotic individuals are distributed in the population at large. Hans Eysenck attempted to measure this as psychoticism, which actually comes closer to measuring psychopathy than psychotic tendencies. Another measure of psychotic personality traits is called schizotypy; it is a more accurate measure of the classically psychotic characteristics:


  • Unusual experiences
      [no] Hears things with no recognizable source ((unless my ears occasionally ringing coutns))
      [yes] Experiences things as more vivid at times, more dull and flat at others
      [that is REALLY vague] Feels bodily sensations with no identifiable cause
      [no, but my cat does] Sees things that aren't there
      [no] Nebulous feelings of being watched or persecuted
    [Again, vague concept] Cognitive disorganization
      [yes] Tangentiality in conversation
      [yes] Racing thoughts
      [yes] Difficulty finding words
      [I take poetic liscence but you'd usually know what I meant, ex. "unreality" is not a real word but sounds like what it means in my mind] Invents new words or uses words with nonstandard meanings
      [yes] Loses train of thought
  • Introverted anhedonia
      [sometimes] Little pleasure in life
      [sometimes] Lack of emotional expression
      [depends on the situation] Afraid of unfamiliar situations
      [depends on the situation] Anxious
  • Impulsive nonconformity
      [only if you don't know what started it all] Bizarre emotional response
      [I'm a teenager, of course I do that] Behavior that is detrimental to self or others without forethought
      [yes, but of late, it's usually in protest of an unfair social convention] Ignores social convention


Having gone down the list, might I add, I'm on an antipsychotic medication. ((And do not want to go off of it- it's not for the AS, I've got a slieu of other issues))



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08 Aug 2005, 7:38 pm

Serissa wrote:
Having gone down the list, might I add, I'm on an antipsychotic medication. ((And do not want to go off of it- it's not for the AS, I've got a slieu of other issues))

I wouldn't have guessed that you have psychotic epsodes. You have a blunt and direct manner of speaking and an extremely cynical (and agreeable) sense of humor that suggests you have a good grip on reality.


Unusual experiences:

Hears things with no recognizable source [NO]
Experiences things as more vivid at times, more dull and flat at others [NO]
Feels bodily sensations with no identifiable cause [NO]
Sees things that aren't there [NO]
Nebulous feelings of being watched or persecuted [NO]

Cognitive disorganization:

Tangentiality in conversation [YES]
Racing thoughts [YES]
Difficulty finding words [YES]
Invents new words or uses words with nonstandard meanings [NO]
Loses train of thought [SOMETIMES]

Introverted anhedonia:

Little pleasure in life [YES] (environmental?)
Lack of emotional expression [YES]
Afraid of unfamiliar situations [YES]
Anxious [YES]

Impulsive nonconformity:

Bizarre emotional response [YES]
Behavior that is detrimental to self or others without forethought [SOMETIMES]
Ignores social convention [YES]

Dang, when phrased that way, I look certifiable. 8O



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08 Aug 2005, 8:56 pm

Unusual experiences:

Hears things with no recognizable source [rarely]
Experiences things as more vivid at times, more dull and flat at others [no]
Feels bodily sensations with no identifiable cause [rarely]
Sees things that aren't there [no]
Nebulous feelings of being watched or persecuted [yes]

Cognitive disorganization:

Tangentiality in conversation [yes]
Racing thoughts [yes]
Difficulty finding words [yes]
Invents new words or uses words with nonstandard meanings [yes]
Loses train of thought [happends]

Introverted anhedonia:

Little pleasure in life [often]
Lack of emotional expression [yes]
Afraid of unfamiliar situations [yes]
Anxious [yes]

Impulsive nonconformity:

Bizarre emotional response [yes]
Behavior that is detrimental to self or others without forethought [happends]
Ignores social convention [yes]



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08 Aug 2005, 11:39 pm

Sean wrote:
I wouldn't have guessed that you have psychotic epsodes. You have a blunt and direct manner of speaking and an extremely cynical (and agreeable) sense of humor that suggests you have a good grip on reality.


Not really psychotic "episodes" (unless you count panic attacks, during which I'm about as rational as a fish in a tank with a toaster) but I have really, really fast thoughts when I'm not on the meds. It prevents me from sleeping and functioning during the day- not to mention the fact that not sleeping keeps me from functioning during the day. If ADD is swicthing from channel to channel, my experience off the meds is basically having about ten channels going at once. The meds cut it down to about three or so.



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09 Aug 2005, 12:20 am

Could someone please provide some sort of scoring system for this outline? :)
All we can really do with it at the moment is see who's crazier than who. :lol:



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09 Aug 2005, 3:24 am

I really don't know whether someone can call themselves 'psychotic', 'neurotic', or anything else for that matter.

I took an online personality test a few days ago, in order to try to compare results between the two. The criteria for determing psychosis outlined above are, like so many of these lists of criteria - contingent upon the circumstances in force at the time.

The notion of 'bizarre behaviour' is arbitrary. I think 'bizarre behaviour' is perfectly reasonable in response to 'bizarre circumstances'. Similarly, 'social convention' is arbitrary, after all, if everybody rocked back and forth on occasion in public (as I sometimes have to stop myself doing halfway through), then that would be considered 'normal behaviour'. Equally, if only a single individual in the pub was making an absolutely unjustified racket in front of the television when the Football is on (Soccer outside the UK), shouting imprecations and the players on the pitch, or offering encouragement to their favourite team, then he would be considered the 'weirdo', while everyone who was rocking back and forth, and getting increasingly irritated with the squeaky hinges on the entrance door sound, or the impenetrable buzz of over-loud chatter would be the 'majority'.

Is that the defining difference between normal/abnormal or conventional/bizarre?

Here are the results of the test I took, which while not a real basis for concern as an unmoderated online test hardly qualifies as epitomising clinical rigour and objectivity was one of the better tests of its kind that I have seen.

Personality Disorder Test Results
Paranoid |||||||||||||||| 66%
Schizoid |||||||||||||||||||| 90%
Schizotypal |||||||||||||| 58%
Antisocial |||||||||| 38%
Borderline |||||||||||||||| 62%
Histrionic |||| 14%
Narcissistic |||| 14%
Avoidant |||||||||||||||| 70%
Dependent |||||| 22%
Obsessive-Compulsive |||||||||||||||| 70%
Take Free Personality Disorder Test
personality tests by http://www.similarminds.com



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09 Aug 2005, 10:20 am

adversarial wrote:
I really don't know whether someone can call themselves 'psychotic', 'neurotic', or anything else for that matter.

I took an online personality test a few days ago, in order to try to compare results between the two. The criteria for determing psychosis outlined above are, like so many of these lists of criteria - contingent upon the circumstances in force at the time.

The notion of 'bizarre behaviour' is arbitrary. I think 'bizarre behaviour' is perfectly reasonable in response to 'bizarre circumstances'. Similarly, 'social convention' is arbitrary, after all, if everybody rocked back and forth on occasion in public (as I sometimes have to stop myself doing halfway through), then that would be considered 'normal behaviour'. Equally, if only a single individual in the pub was making an absolutely unjustified racket in front of the television when the Football is on (Soccer outside the UK), shouting imprecations and the players on the pitch, or offering encouragement to their favourite team, then he would be considered the 'weirdo', while everyone who was rocking back and forth, and getting increasingly irritated with the squeaky hinges on the entrance door sound, or the impenetrable buzz of over-loud chatter would be the 'majority'.

Is that the defining difference between normal/abnormal or conventional/bizarre?

Here are the results of the test I took, which while not a real basis for concern as an unmoderated online test hardly qualifies as epitomising clinical rigour and objectivity was one of the better tests of its kind that I have seen.

Personality Disorder Test Results
Paranoid |||||||||||||||| 66%
Schizoid |||||||||||||||||||| 90%
Schizotypal |||||||||||||| 58%
Antisocial |||||||||| 38%
Borderline |||||||||||||||| 62%
Histrionic |||| 14%
Narcissistic |||| 14%
Avoidant |||||||||||||||| 70%
Dependent |||||| 22%
Obsessive-Compulsive |||||||||||||||| 70%
Take Free Personality Disorder Test
personality tests by http://www.similarminds.com


I always score off the charts on these things. Last time I took it I came out as super borderline.

First % is my score, second % is the average web score.

Paranoid |||||||||||||||| 62% 49%
Schizoid |||||||||||| 46% 53%
Schizotypal |||||||||||||||| 62% 53%
Antisocial |||||||||| 38% 47%
Borderline |||||||||||||||||||| 86% 47%
Histrionic |||||||||| 38% 43%
Narcissistic |||||| 26% 41%
Avoidant |||||||||||| 42% 39%
Dependent |||||||||||||||| 70% 37%
Obsessive-Compulsive |||||||||||||||||||| 90% 40%

And the winning streak continues!! !! !! ! Though the dependant thing is inaccurate because it's assuming I'm not in college and a full-time student, a time when it's kind of undertsandable to be dependent on a parental support system. When I get out of grad school I will be self-supporting, I hope. (Five more years, if all goes well! Five more years!! !! Woohoo!! !! !)



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09 Aug 2005, 2:02 pm

Paranoid 82%
Schizoid 74%
Schizotypal 82%
Antisocial 38%
Borderline 76%
Histrionic 38%
Narcissistic 26%
Avoidant 54%
Dependent 56%
Obsessive-Compulsive 82%

omg, this is depressing