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The pharmaceuticals are carrying out their *trial experimentations* on the people in 3rd world countries - Read. Get informed - http://www.alternet.org/environment/37024

These tests were preformed without government athorization, and are illegal and underground. Once discovered they were terminated and the people prosecuted, the families are even filing lawsuits. The government is trying to stop these corrupt companies. Once again I say, the world isn't perfect, but we're doing our best. So now you have two choices, you can continue to gripe and cry over how bad things are but do basicly nothing, or work to stop it. Learn all the facts, all points of view and become a worker who stops it. In order to do that you need to learn to listen and understand our views, and not just your own.

One: third world nations are a mess. Its utterly unsurprising that people take advantage of them, and using one as an example of how all medicine is bad is frankly laughable. The road network in nigeria is pretty bad. Does that mae it an example of how all road networks worldwide are s**t? The Nigerian console gaming industry is a non-starter. Does that mean that all console gaming enterprises worldwide have failed?
Two: The key words are "trial" and "experimentation". Just because a given batch of pharmaceutical A does something nasty, or fails in some fashion, does not mean that others dont work perfectly well. If these trials had worked, we would be lauding the success of the saviours of the third world. It is NOT an example of how all drugs are rubbish in any way. Its an example of illegal and cynical manipulation by a company, which backfired badly. Its also notable that regardless of HOW a medical result is achieved, it is still a medical result. Look towards the testing done by the Nazis, and note how the aerospace industry these days still uses those results.
Three: you're still wrong. Very wrong.
Four: You're probably not going to read all of this post anyway, which is singularly ignorant of you. For someone who claims to examine all sources before you make a decision about the truth of something, that seems like an odd attitude.
Five: You have STILL failed to come up with viable alternatives to most music, and most medicine. Its all very well telling us all we shouldnt do what doctors say, but thats not going to help us get any better, healthwise. Its wonderful to suggest that mass-marketed media sucks, but I dont see many suggestions as to what to replace it with coming from you.
Six: You're still wrong.

5. I said .5 for most of them. I sort of half-believe newspapers, half-listen to doctors, etc.

I might hazard a guess that jjstar's favorite music is the sound of drumming in her own head (any Doctor Who fans out there?):

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Do you believe everything you're told? No
Did you drink Kool-Aide when you were a child? Yes
Do you live your life vicariously through TV shows? No
Do you believe what the FDA tells you? Some of the FDAs intentions are evil, but they haven't told me to do anything. I don't know whether or not I believe them or not.
Do you follow authority figures blindly? No
Do you read newspapers? No
Do you believe in Democracy? Yes
Do you put your faith in doctors? Most of the time, but I know that not all of them know everything.
Do you follow fashion? Definitely not.
Do you *follow the crowd* because it seems right even if it feels wrong? No
Do you hum commercial tunes? Not really, but they do get stuck in my head sometimes
Do you buy cheap food because it's on sale, even though it's unhealthy? I haven't got to the point of buying food for myself yet.
Do you believe that innoculations are a great necessity? Not necessarily
Do you listen to *pop* music? Not mainstream pop anyway

I try not to be a sheeple.

Do you believe everything you're told? That would be impossible. I've never been good at holding several contradictory notions in my mind simultaneously. Those close to me might disagree.

Did you drink Kool-Aid when you were a child? Yes, and Tang as well, but usually only at other kids' houses. My parents wouldn't buy it. I didn't feel deprived or anything; milk, OJ and water were perfectly good thirst-quenchers.

Do you live your life vicariously through TV shows? I live my life (whether vicariously or not, I can't say) through the input of my senses and through my cognitive processes. If I fail to find much to identify with in any cultural products (TV shows, movie characters, song lyrics) it's probably just as well.

Do you believe what the FDA tells you? What, the best scientists that agribusiness/pharma dollars can buy? The trouble with scientists is that they are prone to forget who is paying for their soup and beer, and thus they occasionally come up with findings contrary to the interests of their employers. Not all of these findings can be swept under the rug.

Do you follow authority figures blindly? I'm barely able to keep from stumbling and falling, even with my eyes wide open. Sometimes I notice who is near me on the path. If I like them, we might walk together for a while.

Do you read newspapers? Which ones, the boring broadsheets or the trashy tabloids? Yes, I read them, because it's useful to know what the b*stards in charge think we should be thinking about. If some bombasto-pundit writes something that causes my blood to boil, I skip over the rest of it, and do the Sudoku puzzle.

Do you believe in democracy? I believe that democracy has never been adequately tested, anywhere in the world, ever.

Do you put your faith in doctors? I follow medical advice about half the time, and ignore it the rest of the time, and in the long run it doesn't seem to have made much difference either way.

Do you follow fashion? Oh, this is an interesting one. In order to follow fashion, at least two preconditions have to be met. First, you have to be paying sufficient attention to your cultural milieu to know what is stylish and what isn't. Second, you must be prepared to go against personal inclination (if you have any such) to adopt what is stylish. Third, I suppose, you have to have the means to obtain the consumer goods involved.

Do you *follow the crowd* because it seems right even if it feels wrong? See Question 5 above.

Do you hum commercial tunes? By "commercial", do you mean music that is included with advertising? Or music that is played on radio stations that run ads? Or music that is put on disks and sold in shops? Or music that you can purchase for download online? Or music that you hear when you've bought a concert ticket? Yes, I suppose I do.

Do you buy cheap food because it's on sale, even though it's unhealthy? Where to begin in unpacking this? I buy food, because the alternatives are begging, stealing and dumpster diving, none of which appeals to me. I buy cheap food most of the time, and the occasional expensive item just for the sake of variety. "On sale"? A bargain is a state of mind. "Unhealthy"? Nutrition is a hotly-debated topic, and probably has been controversial since the beginning of time ("Eat the brown trilobites! The black ones are no good for you!").

Do you believe that immunisation is a great necessity? That depends on whether one thinks that epidemics of preventable disease should be allowed to happen, or not.

Do you listen to *pop* music? See Question 11 above.

Of course.

Here come the drums....

Here come the drums....

HERE!

COME!

THE DRUMS! !! !

No, not all the time.



I drank cordial and juice, if that's what you meant. I also got suspicious of cups with a bitter almond smell held by a creepy cult leader with sunnies.



Books are more my thing. And if I ever do anything based off TV shows, it is British shows, not American.



I tend to believe the Australian equivalent. They do do some clangers, though.



Only those like the police, firefighters. I distrust the military and distrust the politicians more.



Yes. At least I can read. It's only the editorials I tend to be really sceptical about. Most articles I accept or think about.



I believe in humanity. I accept democracy. It's the lesser evil.



Some I trust. Others I know aren't trustworthy.



As in clothes? No.



I more like wade through the crowd, going where I need to go. Or want to go. I only join lines where I need to.



Only in parody.



I leave the actual nutritional stuff to my mother.



Well, yes, Mr Anti-Jenner.



The only "pop" music I like are Queen, the Rolling Stones' Paint It Black, and Chris Cornell's You Know My Name. Otherwise, it's just irritating noise.




Only 8 at most. And don't take that attitude with me. I'm an Aries.

I trust the military. Or at least I trust the British military at company level or thereabouts. Anyone who has been trained to kill people and isnt killing me cant be that bad. (Hence the british military. the american military cant even get their smart bombs to hit the right country.)

1. Q. Do you believe everything you're told?
   A. Yes. For at least 20ms.
   
2. Q. Did you drink Kool-Aide when you were a child?
   A. Yes. Or rather, I might have done, if it had existed then.
   
3. Q. Do you live your life vicariously through TV shows?
   A. Yes. I like Buffy.
   
4. Q. Do you believe what the FDA tells you?
   A. Yes. Every word. However, as I'm in the UK, they don't speak to me.
   
5. Q. Do you follow authority figures blindly?
   A. Yes. Actually, in the singular. I'm quite an authority figure. I follow me blindly.
   
6. Q. Do you read newspapers?
   A. Yes. The crosswords.
   
7. Q. Do you believe in Democracy?
   A. Yes. As much as I believe anything. I prefer anarchy. (What's the capital "D" for?)
   
8. Q. Do you put your faith in doctors?
   A. Yes. Otherwise I would have been dead several times, so far.
   
9. Q. Do you follow fashion?
   A. Yes. But mostly I set it.
   
10. Q. Do you *follow the crowd* because it seems right even if it feels wrong?
    A. Yes. Pathetic, isn't it. However, it's a way of getting by: "Pretending to be Normal".
    
11. Q. Do you hum commercial tunes?
    A. Yes. Again, rather irritating. I stop myself as soon as I can.
    
12. Q. Do you buy cheap food because it's on sale, even though it's unhealthy?
    A. Yes. If it doesn't poison me. I also believe mud (in small doses) is good for you.
    
13. Q. Do you believe that innoculations are a great necessity?
    A. Yes. Unqualified. I hate mass murderers, which is what anti-inoculation(sp) lobbyists are.
    
14. Q. Do you listen to *pop* music?
    A. Yes. How else do you find good new music?

The sheep that make up these questionnaires never cease to amuse me.

Do you believe everything you're told? Only for the length of time it takes to enter one ear and exit the other.
Did you drink Kool-Aide when you were a child? Occasionally, stopped when I was 20. (November of 1978, can't remember why.... )
Do you live your life vicariously through TV shows? No, I do not watch TV that much.
Do you believe what the FDA tells you? No. Don't trust the drug companies either....
Do you follow authority figures blindly? No, whether I'm following or misleading them I do so with both eyes open.
Do you read newspapers? Sometimes. They have gone down the tube ever since Gary Larson retired....
Do you believe in Democracy? No, but I don't believe in dictatorship either.
Do you put your faith in doctors? I put my faith in the one who saved my life when I was 40, but not in the one who almost killed me when I was six years old.
Do you follow fashion? What's that?
Do you *follow the crowd* because it seems right even if it feels wrong? Er.... How does something seem right and feel wrong at the same time? Anyway I just don't see myself doing the "Sieg Heil" thing....
Do you hum commercial tunes? No, see TV question above.
Do you buy cheap food because it's on sale, even though it's unhealthy? What doesn't kill me makes me fat if not strong...(BURP)
Do you believe that innoculations are a great necessity? I get a flu shot every year as for the others see lau's comment above.
Do you listen to *pop* music? Bach, Beethoven, and Mahler were popular back in their days..... So yes in a manner of speaking: Yes.

Ditto

A lovely bit of random silliness from one of my sons.

In some of the jobs I've been in there were sheeple who've been employed at them for 10, 20, 30 years or more. They conform nicely with the norm, don't make any waves and don't question the bosses. I'm sort of envious of these people because their lives are set. They've plateaued. They've arrived at their peak and seek to become nothing else. They're happy with their paycheck and their lot in life and are perfectly happy to die at any moment. Who wouldn't envy that?

The funny thing about terms like this existing is that I've never seen an alternative group that wasn't prone to its own form of groupthink and its own flavor of Kool-aid.

I have 6 but I am not a complete sheepie. Maybe just a lambie. I know when stuff is basically BS and I don't follow just anything blindly.