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MizLiz
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26 Jul 2009, 2:24 pm

Pic in first post doesn't work.

Anyway, LAWNMOWERS!

I hate when it's 7AM on a Monday and the old b***h next door is mowing the lawn. WHY!? At least with motorcycles, after 30 second it's over. With a lawnmower, I have to put up with that s**t for an hour.



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26 Jul 2009, 4:14 pm

I don't begrudge people their motorcycles, but yeah, any loud noise just plain HURTS :!:
Even our cats run at loud vehicles down our street - it must be h@%% on their ears.

Once went to a church service where they had an amplifier in the drums in a room the size of two mobile homes - with plain plaster walls and a wooden floor, little fabrics to adsorb the sound :arrow: HAD to leave. Haven't been back.

Sidebar on the small clean cars - from what I've seen of most concept vehicles they are seriously short on cargo space. In my 4-door 18 year old petroleum burner we make grocery store trips twice a month.
These clean concept cars appear to only hold a couple days worth of groceries - requiring multiple trips to the grocery store and ultimately consuming more energy overall.

I grew up in a family where my Dad got transferred pretty much every other year - my parents needed a car big enough to hold four people and several days worth of luggage. Dad's job was one where it couldn't be done remotely on line he had to go there to do that. And not many people could do what he did
:?: what clean cars are of sufficient size to make those trips?

And buying small furniture retail - does one go to the store in their tiny little clean car then have the store make a round trip to their home in a larger vehicle to deliver it?
That would increase overall energy use, wouldn't it?
Actually, that's kind of the same as making on-line purchases, energy has to be consumed to get the item across half a continent or across and ocean to you.
Eh, that happens with stuff in the local store anyway as it is.

I rode on Greg's motorcycle once, and it was fun :D His was of reasonable noise level.

Out here in farmland where we use a lot of landscape to grow the stuff you eat, it's a pretty fair distance to anywhere -
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larger vehicles are needed to reduce fatigue on those trips (have done them in compact cars and family sedans, so know that firsthand - fatigue causes less driver alertness.) and to hold the volume of stuff people get on those occasional trips.
Tiny little clean cars can not do that.

From what I've seen, people packed in cities all to quickly forget, if they ever were aware of it to begin with, that a tremendous amount of landscape out there is NOT city or suburb. And they do not take that into consideration.

There's also a large amount of unpaved gravel county roads out here, are small, lightweight, clean cars going to hold up on those?

Okay, I'm done.
For now.


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26 Jul 2009, 5:07 pm

As an Aspie on the libertarian end I have no problem with motorbikes or bikers. They're a pretty decent set of people all in all and are pretty mellow and understanding people generally.



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26 Jul 2009, 5:10 pm

which brings up another tangent off topic - recycling :arrow:
out here, to get to a plastic recycling place is a 31 mile, 49 kilometer, round trip
I create more negative environmental impact recycling than trashing plastic.


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26 Jul 2009, 5:15 pm

Tequila wrote:
As an Aspie on the libertarian end I have no problem with motorbikes or bikers. They're a pretty decent set of people all in all and are pretty mellow and understanding people generally.

True, it's just the "one jackass spoils the bunch" thing.
Hard to get past that. :?

Will, in fairness, add that I do go look at nearby motorcycles in parking lot where we park - some are downright beautiful machines.


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27 Jul 2009, 2:09 am

What, like, the sound? Those sneezes, that you can sort of hear them coming but when they come they're way louder than you expect. Like aaaaaAAAAAAACHOOOO. LOL

But motorcycles don't bug me much. My dad took me on his when I was a kid so I grew up thinking they were awesome.


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