Asperger's Syndrome and the Internet Troll

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We have met the Troll, and the Troll is...
Us aspies 13%  13%  [ 18 ]
Socially guileful NTs with a penchant for winding us up while posing as our kind 12%  12%  [ 16 ]
Neither aspie nor NT but rather some other creature entirely 11%  11%  [ 15 ]
No more likely to be aspie than NT (i.e., no correlation) 40%  40%  [ 55 ]
Aspie trolls differ from NT trolls 17%  17%  [ 23 ]
I do not believe in the Troll 7%  7%  [ 9 ]
Total votes : 136

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02 Dec 2008, 3:55 pm

In another forum I used to participate in (which was full of NTs), I was accused of being a "Troll."

I never meant to be a troll. From my understanding, trolls are people who post just to provoke people and get negative attention.

I did not post "just to get attention", yet people called me an attention whore.
I did not post "just to provoke people", yet people got angry at me anyways.

What did I do, exactly, that apparently caused so much trouble in that forum? All I ever did was express my viewpoint in debates, which, unfortunately, tended to differ from the opinions of the majority of the people there. Sometimes I asked questions about things I did not understand, but apparently everyone else thought it was "common knowledge." Many things that I considered "common knowledge", people were clueless about!
I tended to take things seriously, and didn't get many jokes, many of which were at my expense.

My typing style is, as you can see, unsually grammatically correct and pedantic. I try to avoid spelling errors, punctuation errors, and capitalization errors. I try to make my posts as clear and as detailed as possible, to avoid confusion. I do not use much abbreviations or contractions, for the sake of clarity. If I ever find a mistake in my post, I will edit it again and again to make sure it is correct and clear.
People misunderstood my frequent editing as "Trolling" as well. :roll:

People hated me and falsely labeled me as "Troll", just because I behaved differently from the majority.


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02 Dec 2008, 4:00 pm

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Oh, that is so funny. How do you get banned from Home & Garden TV? Did you get passionate about something you said you had made?


I can't even remember what prompted my original banning from HGTV. Surely it was because I called someone to the carpet about something I perceived as being ridiculous or wrong. So many of their threads deviate into personal issues- they don't have a random discussions forum so it's all supposed to be pretty much on-topic.
Come to think of it there was one instance where a participant posted pictures of his/her living room and there were numerous deer heads hanging on every wall. I think my comment was something to the effect of, "...well, except for the dead animal carcasses staring down at you I think you did a lovely job with your living room..." kind of thing. Those kind of forums are more geared for bragging and fishing for compliments than getting any kind of real feedback: Very un-Aspie friendly. :D



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02 Dec 2008, 4:01 pm

CleverKitten wrote:
In another forum I used to participate in (which was full of NTs), I was accused of being a "Troll."

I never meant to be a troll. From my understanding, trolls are people who post just to provoke people and get negative attention.

I did not post "just to get attention", yet people called me an attention whore.
I did not post "just to provoke people", yet people got angry at me anyways.

What did I do, exactly, that apparently caused so much trouble in that forum? All I ever did was express my viewpoint in debates, which, unfortunately, tended to differ from the opinions of the majority of the people there.

My typing style is, as you can see, unsually grammatically correct and pedantic. I try to avoid spelling errors, punctuation errors, and capitalization errors. I try to make my posts as clear and as detailed as possible, to avoid confusion. I do not use much abbreviations or contractions, for the sake of clarity. If I ever find a mistake in my post, I will edit it again and again to make sure it is correct ad clear.
People misunderstood my frequent editing as "Trolling" as well. :roll:

People hated me and falsely labeled me as "Troll", just because I behaved differently from the majority.


You are such an attention whore! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


You know I'm kidding, right?



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02 Dec 2008, 4:04 pm

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You are such an attention whore! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


You know I'm kidding, right?


Without the italic text you so thoughtfully added, I would have taken your post seriously. :wink:


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02 Dec 2008, 4:07 pm

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You have just described near everyone on WP, and called them trolls?

You are trying to start a flame war between others for your amusement.

What kind of person does that, what are they called?

Your post is Exibit "A", a display of mental superiority.


It looks like YOU'RE the one casting the first stone. Troll much?


You might invest a moment to look into the person at which you cast your words. Inventor is one of the members here I respect the most, who has taken more time and thought in his responses than most would even consider. I find it strange how easily we toss about accusations and labels here.


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02 Dec 2008, 4:08 pm

CK, I'm the same way.

Ephy, that site is a hoot. There have been occasions where I didn't even respond to a perceived provocation, just posted the link to the appropriate flame warrior.

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02 Dec 2008, 4:44 pm

CleverKitten wrote:
In another forum I used to participate in (which was full of NTs), I was accused of being a "Troll."

I never meant to be a troll. From my understanding, trolls are people who post just to provoke people and get negative attention.

I did not post "just to get attention", yet people called me an attention whore.
I did not post "just to provoke people", yet people got angry at me anyways.

What did I do, exactly, that apparently caused so much trouble in that forum? All I ever did was express my viewpoint in debates, which, unfortunately, tended to differ from the opinions of the majority of the people there. Sometimes I asked questions about things I did not understand, but apparently everyone else thought it was "common knowledge." Many things that I considered "common knowledge", people were clueless about!
I tended to take things seriously, and didn't get many jokes, many of which were at my expense.

My typing style is, as you can see, unsually grammatically correct and pedantic. I try to avoid spelling errors, punctuation errors, and capitalization errors. I try to make my posts as clear and as detailed as possible, to avoid confusion. I do not use much abbreviations or contractions, for the sake of clarity. If I ever find a mistake in my post, I will edit it again and again to make sure it is correct and clear.
People misunderstood my frequent editing as "Trolling" as well. :roll:

People hated me and falsely labeled me as "Troll", just because I behaved differently from the majority.


Same exact situation here. :? Good thing this forum is a lot better then that.



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02 Dec 2008, 4:48 pm

CleverKitten wrote:
In another forum I used to participate in (which was full of NTs), I was accused of being a "Troll."

I never meant to be a troll. From my understanding, trolls are people who post just to provoke people and get negative attention.

I did not post "just to get attention", yet people called me an attention whore.
I did not post "just to provoke people", yet people got angry at me anyways.

What did I do, exactly, that apparently caused so much trouble in that forum? All I ever did was express my viewpoint in debates, which, unfortunately, tended to differ from the opinions of the majority of the people there. Sometimes I asked questions about things I did not understand, but apparently everyone else thought it was "common knowledge." Many things that I considered "common knowledge", people were clueless about!
I tended to take things seriously, and didn't get many jokes, many of which were at my expense.

My typing style is, as you can see, unsually grammatically correct and pedantic. I try to avoid spelling errors, punctuation errors, and capitalization errors. I try to make my posts as clear and as detailed as possible, to avoid confusion. I do not use much abbreviations or contractions, for the sake of clarity. If I ever find a mistake in my post, I will edit it again and again to make sure it is correct and clear.
People misunderstood my frequent editing as "Trolling" as well. :roll:

People hated me and falsely labeled me as "Troll", just because I behaved differently from the majority.


Your post is very precise and intelligently written!

It is hard for me to know when I am offending people. I have to learn when to shut up and how to respond constructively.

This is a good skills topic for me, actually.



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02 Dec 2008, 4:52 pm

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ephy, that site is a hoot. There have been occasions where I didn't even respond to a perceived provocation, just posted the link to the appropriate flame warrior. ;)


Well, thanks (I think) 8O



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02 Dec 2008, 5:03 pm

If I dislike someone, not only do I not care if I offend that person, I also seek to do so.



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02 Dec 2008, 5:22 pm

NocturnalQuilter wrote:
Those kind of forums are more geared for bragging and fishing for compliments than getting any kind of real feedback: Very un-Aspie friendly. :D


Ahh yes. The "Trolling for Compliments" troll :lol:



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02 Dec 2008, 5:27 pm

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If I dislike someone, not only do I not care if I offend that person, I also seek to do so.


Way to win friends and influenc people! :wink:



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02 Dec 2008, 8:07 pm

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# A fondness for adopting unconventional social roles or shifting personae (e.g., acting, playing devil's advocate, imaginative storytelling, character development)


Erm...not too good with character development in stories. Maybe I do act as "Devil's advocate" but I mainly see it as pointing out hypocrisy and contradictions and double-standards. Not sure if its trolling or not.

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# Argumentativeness or a love for debate for its own shake or for its intellectually stimulating value


like debate. joined debate league sophmore year of HS when it formed and 3-year veteran. freshman in community college now.

Not really argumentative. Maybe I am or can appear that way. It can be "intellectual stimulating" to simply read the things on it. Debates can be fun too.

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hmm. it depends. in some debates yes i can be calm, in others i might not. depends on the experience I have. when younger more emotional.

It depends on if people start flaming/talking s**t or not, my pre-existing immunity to that and knowledge of it (as in if i get jumped like im in compton and didnt know this i might get s shutdown irl with heavy flaming/douchebaggers out of nowhere, but it depends.

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# High verbal intelligence


do I? maybe. I dunno. Apparently my vocabulary is good so :P

As an add-on; I know another person with AS who is a troll and trolls, raids, etc other sites, is knowledge on f*****g people up, etc. one of his usernames is thelostcup. He eve trolled one of his best friends, because he got a fat black woman as his girlfriend...google him ;)

He's a senior or so in HS or so now and similar age.

oh and I don't troll. Well I have trolled people IRL with debate arguments ("nuke africa" "niggers are animals" denying the holoaust in front of a jewish judge, etc). But that's policy debate, so it's not trolling it's allowed by the rules. though people complain about it. Also 'trolling' is something that's well...a broad category. Arguably being aggressive or having weird responses in debates can be considered 'trolling'. Well yes fine what I did in policy debate IS trolling technically as it is to get a rise..well more than that was my objective, it makes it easier to WIN as they aren't expecting that mode of attack :mrgreen:

little or no evidence to counter makes it easier for me to WIN 8)

EDIT: oh and I did this, though that was accidental, I thought they'd like the joke. but yes that technically is 'trolling' under a wide def.


one of the guy's reactions :P

one guy wanted me run over by a bus and wanted digg, reddit and 4chan to rape me :P

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I have been following this train wreck caused by Warsie and must say that banning is not enough.

He must be turned in to the Police and FBI for a thorough ass raping. Mike himself should sue Warsie for using his site for illegal acts, pain and suffering, and what ever else Mike can get to stick in a Civil Court.

Everyone who clicked on that link should come forth and get together to launch a class action lawsuit against Warsie.

Since Stravo, I believe is an attorney himself, he should be asked as to what actions if any can be pursued.

Warsie's avatar should be removed (its very f*****g annoying anyway) and his sig changed to "I like Rick rolling people to the FBI, costing people their jobs, and I am a closet Pedophile. This is my e-mail address (followed by his e-mail address)"

He should also receive a custom banned title that reflects what he did.

P.S. I have three daughters and child pornography is something I take a very dim view on. This sort of s**t ruins lives forever.


http://encyclopediadramatica.com/FBI_redirection

(cache as site is down)
http://74.125.45.132/search?q=cache:1oj ... =firefox-a


Basically I hate sarcastic s**t, etc. but well I thought that redirection would be funny. they didn't like it. haha.

not as if i lastmeasured them or goatsed them....


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02 Dec 2008, 9:06 pm

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Google "flame warriors" and go to the site if you really want to see a comprehensive typology of such folks.

Very entertaining. Very funny.

I counted 93* different Flame Warriors, the common Troll being only one of them.

(*Too tired for an accurate count. Would someone else please verify? Thank you.)



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02 Dec 2008, 9:59 pm

I shamefully admit I did if someone on some other forums would get me going BUT I wouldn't be the one to start up! But I was the one to keep the fire going after someone started up with me... and they deserved it!


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02 Dec 2008, 10:14 pm

Trolling is a choice. It's not the same as being literal or hotheaded, or half the other things you list. Trolls deliberately try to start flamewars. Inadvertently getting involved in them, or inadvertently starting them, is not trolling. I am starting to get the impression that some people use the word "troll" as a shorthand for "I don't like this person". :?


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