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01 Dec 2007, 9:34 pm

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That video does not lend support to an illuminati conspiracy. It is an indication that many leaders are now advocating global governance. Politically, I agree with them. I am a world federalist.

The problem I have with many of these individuals is that their support for political union is combined with a support for capitalist globalization. In other words, their stated reason for advocating political union is to facilitate corporate profits.

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Theyr not hiding it anymore, so it's not a "theory" anymore, it's a fact.


That there are people who advocate global government? Sure. I am one of them. I don't see how that relates to the other stuff you mentioned, like 2012 and 2013.


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01 Dec 2007, 9:36 pm

I advocate a global confederation, but not a global ultra-capitalist police state, which they are planning on bringing about.


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01 Dec 2007, 9:41 pm

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I advocate a global confederation, but not a global ultra-capitalist police state, which they are planning on bringing about.


What evidence do you have for the police state idea? Who are "they"?


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01 Dec 2007, 11:55 pm

"They" are the government, more particularly the shadow government ran by corporations and very rich elites. Do your research, theyr not trying to hide it. Rockefeller has publicly admitted to it, Bush and Kerry have both admitted to being members in the Skull and Bones Society and I've put a link up somewhere on this forum proving that as well.
I mean damn, talk about not having the balls to accept evidence, that's when you know someone is ignorant. Theyr out there OPENLY ADMITTING their agenda but rather than acknowledge it you just close your eyes and ears and pretend everything is ok because "nominalist is too important to the universe for something horrible to happen to him". I mean the tale tale signs are all over the place if you've read about the rise of other dictators. Masonic symbols hallmark many if not most of our corporations. Look at the back of a dollar, you'll see the pyramid with the eye and New World Order written in Latin.
Look at the Patriot Act, look at HR1955, a senate hearing coming up on the 2nd amendment (rather you like guns or not, you have to realise one of the first things a dictatorial power does is strip their citizens of arms, so that they can't defend themselves). We go to war on false evidence of Iraq harboring "weapons of mass destruction". Dude there is so much evidence I do not even know where to begin. Scratch that, begin by checking your ego at the door.



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02 Dec 2007, 7:22 am

Rockerfeller DEFINITELY admitted it, and thanked the corporate media for maintaining the shroud of secrecy.

Be open to the evidence and possibilities, or remain a blind sheep herded by vicious sheepdogs and deceitful sheperds.


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02 Dec 2007, 8:52 am

I havent read the article, but if it's a revolution, count me in



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02 Dec 2007, 8:56 am

snake321 wrote:
"They" are the government, more particularly the shadow government ran by corporations and very rich elites. Do your research, theyr not trying to hide it. Rockefeller has publicly admitted to it, Bush and Kerry have both admitted to being members in the Skull and Bones Society and I've put a link up somewhere on this forum proving that as well.


They both belonged to it because they both attended Yale. The Skull and Bones Society is a fraternity for the children of wealthy or prestigious families. The illuminati spin on it is pure deductive reasoning.

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I mean damn, talk about not having the balls to accept evidence, that's when you know someone is ignorant. Theyr out there OPENLY ADMITTING their agenda but rather than acknowledge it you just close your eyes and ears and pretend everything is ok because "nominalist is too important to the universe for something horrible to happen to him".


I don't know why you are making it personal. I never implied being "too important to the universe for something to happen to [me]." I simply do not agree with your conclusions. Neither do most people (especially academics).

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I mean the tale tale signs are all over the place if you've read about the rise of other dictators. Masonic symbols hallmark many if not most of our corporations. Look at the back of a dollar, you'll see the pyramid with the eye and New World Order written in Latin.


What you see as tell-tale signs, I see as bits and pieces of information selectively put together to make an argument.

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Look at the Patriot Act, look at HR1955, a senate hearing coming up on the 2nd amendment (rather you like guns or not, you have to realise one of the first things a dictatorial power does is strip their citizens of arms, so that they can't defend themselves). We go to war on false evidence of Iraq harboring "weapons of mass destruction". Dude there is so much evidence I do not even know where to begin. Scratch that, begin by checking your ego at the door.


What does that have to do with the pyramid on the dollar? Do you see what I mean? The illuminati conspiracy or, more precisely, illuminati conspiracies (since there are several different versions of it) is (or are) a patchwork quilt.


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02 Dec 2007, 1:22 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nvbetio4fI[/youtube]


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02 Dec 2007, 8:36 pm

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If I had ten divisions of those men, then our troubles here would be over very quickly.


There's nothing I detest more than the stench of...lies.


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02 Dec 2007, 11:17 pm

revolution :o
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=9aPnZpEWy ... re=related
revolution music in German :P



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02 Dec 2007, 11:19 pm

I was more or less forced by my circumstances to study the occult, although I don't claim to be any expert on it. It is something I would suggest to anyone who is interested, you won't go to hell for doing so, and you may in fact get out of hell (the spiritual place not necessarily a literal plane of fire and brimstone).

Anyway, the fundamental problem with any kind of ideology that involves the state (legitimate monopoly of force)taking care of the people (as in guaranteed health care, guaranteed jobs etc) is that this leads to the people being less tolerant of difference in the populace, because differences are expensive, since they can't use the same schools, work at the same kind of one size fits all jobs etc, and aspies deviate more from what is considered normal compared to the rest of the populace, this is why, our feelings lead us towards more libertarian ways of thinking and voluntary associations to take care of people rather than using coercive state force. We don't want ourselves or our children to be the victims of abortion or eugenics programs.

Maybe nominalist is only thinking about his physical body in this temporary life and not thinking about his own spiritual descendants.


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02 Dec 2007, 11:23 pm

modern religion is, well simply a buisness
just a grab for money...
wicca is less of one as-well you don't need to get anything to be a wiccan-no baptism or whatnot...
in most cases religion is the opium of the people
(yes I said it)
there are things I don't agree with when it comes to religion (even my own)
the modern times we live in simply has no use for religion-its just another money maker



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02 Dec 2007, 11:23 pm

Taimaat wrote:
Maybe nominalist is only thinking about his physical body in this temporary life and not thinking about his own spiritual descendants.


No, I am interested in evidence of a sufficiently high quality to be published in a refereed academic journal.


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02 Dec 2007, 11:31 pm

okay I found just what I wanted to say
"Religious suffering is, at one and the same time, the expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people."