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I do not support "illegal immigration." I support legalizing the right of the poor to enter.

The problem is that I despise the contemporary power structure and have no desire to see it perpetuated.

To begin with, this isn't a "latino" issue, there are illegal whites too, as well as legal latino's who are negatively effected by it.
How can you effectively run an economy if you do not know how many people are living in the country, who are there, if they've got a criminal record, or if theyr on the run? MS13 runs over our borders like wild geese, often kidnapping women and children for profitting off of their sexual exploitations. Minorities are just as capable of doing evil as white people are.

And lets be honest here, we do not have the resources to adopt thousands upon thousands of undocumented hungry people. As I said, I support helping them in ways that won't hurt us.
A despot won't help anyone, I'd rather be hungry and poor and free, than "safe" but not safe from the government.

If a despot took over (which is what is currently happening, possibly by 2012 or 2013 we will have a 1 world dictatorship), there will be no privacy, the RFID chip will be issued and used to replace the monetary system, that chip is linked to satellite technology meaning they can watch our every move. As I said I'd rather be poor and hungry, than be violently oppressed by my own government (please read --every word-- of my last 3 posts before responding, don't ignore that point I made about legal hispanics and illegal white europeans).

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That is true. However, what is "white"?



As I said, to me addressing global poverty trumps all of those other issues. IMO, the U.S., as the wealthiest country in the world has, along with other nations of the Global North, a responsibility to address issues of global poverty. The reason why Mexicans are coming across the U.S. southern border is because those issues are not being effectively addressed.



I reject the concept of "us" except when applied to all of us - in all nations.

I know someone who will gladly stand in line for an RFID chip
Dude, you won't get to choose who takes over, but by that time we'll be so poor that you'll reach to your "last resort" anyhow.

That sounds like Alex Jones, illuminati conspiracy, reptillian races, etc., etc. ideas. What evidence do you have for what you wrote - especially for your dates. Doesn't the 2012 date come from the Mayan calendar?

I do not subscribe to the illuminati conspiracy ideas. Therefore, to me, the direction you have taken this discussion has no context.

I'm not into that crazy reptilian s**t, takeovers have happened throughout history. The ones behind it don't even make a secret of it anymore, outside of television they talk about it OPENLY. I can give you links, but I doubt your willing to except that kind of proof, anything that proves my point you'll go out of your way to discredit.

Start by researching Builderbergers, Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission, major corporations that run the UN. They don't exactly make secret their intentions anymore because they know most people, like yourself, think "that will never happen", and your too brainwashed to accept any proof otherwise.

Empires have risen and fallen throughout history. The problem I have is with taking a metanarrative, like the illuminati conspiracy, and using it, a priori, to put all the pieces together. That is pure deductive reasoning and not unlike the medieval reliance on first principles.

Dude, they don't make a secret of it anymore. If I weren't so tired I'd send you links where they talk about it openly, I've got plenty of them. Maybe I'll post them tommorrow. Hell I've already posted quite a few of those links on here. The cats already out of the bag, theyr just keeping it off of mainstream television.

I have looked into it (at the urging of someone). Generally speaking, large organizations act in their own interests (or perceived interests). If there is a convergence of interests, they may cooperate for a time. That explains the willingness of political conservatives, neoconservatives, and the Christian right to cooperate on various issues (like support for Israel and the Iraq War). Their ulterior motivations and objectives differ, but their immediate goals have been similar.

There is no illuminati conspiracy. There are only different collectivities with similar immediate goals.

Watch this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4KFjIwpJWs

Theyr not hiding it anymore, so it's not a "theory" anymore, it's a fact.