Aspies Who Come Into the Criminal Justice System
I found this article in the International Journal of Forensic Mental Health that involves case studies of people with Asperger's Syndrome who come in contact with the criminal justice setting.
http://www.iafmhs.org/files/Murrie.pdf
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That's a part of psychiatry stigmatizing people with labels so that these people can be put into psychiatry's care without needing it. People with AS probably commit less violence in general, though it's hard to get accurate statistics since far from everyone gets diagnosed. The autistic spectrum shouldn't be any special case in the justice system, not more expected to commit crime, or excused when people on it commit some crime.
http://pn.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/41/20/1
Must-read article for anyone interested in the prison system and prisoners with autism/learning disabilities/mental illness. The above article talks about how more and more people with mental problems, etc.. are being put in prisons instead of psychiatric facilities.. Many of them also are alcoholics or have other substance abuse problems. An aspie on alcohol could be mistaken for someone that they might take down town.
There really NEEDS to be testing in prisons for learning disabilities/autism also! Someone in government should INSIST upon this!! The prisons are very overcrowded too. They are saying that 24% of prison population has a severe mental illness.. This was a year ago too, it's worse now! Here's a small quote from the article :
"I suspect if most of us spent much time in these places, we would all develop mental health "problems,'" Hamilton said.
There really NEEDS to be testing in prisons for learning disabilities/autism also! Someone in government should INSIST upon this!! The prisons are very overcrowded too. They are saying that 24% of prison population has a severe mental illness.. This was a year ago too, it's worse now! Here's a small quote from the article :
"I suspect if most of us spent much time in these places, we would all develop mental health "problems,'" Hamilton said.
If 24% get diagnosed with some kind of "mental illness", then they've thrown all objectivity overboard and are just inventing labels to match the prison population. Antisocial personality disorder and psychopathy isn't mental illness, it's criminal behaviour. People that commit crimes should be punished, they shouldn't get sent to some psychiatric facility. Any needed treatment is the individual's responsibility BEFORE he commits a crime. After he does, he should recieve the punishment he's got coming for him.
Heavens I would never try to do attempted murder or do any sexual assaults. I know they're against the law so therefore I don't do it and I don't want to be a bad person.
HECK, I don't do them because they are WRONG, and against my nature! I haven't stolen, cheated, or told a harmful lie.
Interesting article, I like how the accused admitted to their acts without conflict, which is in stark contrast to "normal" people.
For the most part, people with Asperger's are the victims rather than the victimizers; this article just talks of those who're the victimizers and how they differ from "normal" people, i.e., "cold" and seemingly detached from the feelings of others isn't always a lack of remorse, it can be a lack of empathy (whether they both are the same thing or not is up for argument; the effect is still the same).
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It (they're the same) is a real personality disorders. Punishment will only protect society for a short time and will neither cure the disordered criminal nor prevent them from committing further crimes.
Treatment doesn't mean there's no regular punishment, back here a justice imposed treatment is more or less added to the regular punishment - and it has undefined duration, meaning someone could face 6 months in jail and 10 years of treatment.
Why oppose treatment if it might help to reduce - or even prevent - future harmful acts?
What bothers me is the new security camera/computer systems where the computer analyses the body language of the public.
If it catches someone displaying 'shifty' body language, they are marked as someone thinking about commiting a crime, which is then relayed to the security staff. Certain ND people get harassed enough as it is - this would make things 10* worse - learn how to appear 'straight' or get harassed everytime you pass through a mall.
Interesting article, i skimmed the case studies, seemed better severe alot of them. I also have had contact with the justice system for minor stuff. Nothing like those guys. I was once bullied for years where I lived, one day I had enough and confronted the bully, he threw a punch and nailed me in the lip, instantly I went on the defencive, i felt no pain and it was like instinct and so I managed to pumble him to the ground and I ended up being arrested when he told his parents and they called the police. They claimed in court I was a drug user and crazy (it may have been known I was in special ed due to gossip, and that I may have mild autism (thanks mom and dad, tell 1 neghboor and everybody knows) and so the kids parents beleived since I was different it would be more likly I would be locked up in jail or whatever. Instead since the kid admitted starting the fight I was aquitted and smiled at tha family as I got to walk out free.
I think misjudging the situation on my part led me to be arrested, I coulda avoided him, I coulda not freaked out and smashed the side of his face in, I dont think im mean of violent, just did not wanna be harrassed anymore in my neghboorhood. Anyone else been here????
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DX'ed with HFA as a child. However this was in 1987 and I am certain had I been DX'ed a few years later I would have been DX'ed with AS instead.
Must-read article for anyone interested in the prison system and prisoners with autism/learning disabilities/mental illness. The above article talks about how more and more people with mental problems, etc.. are being put in prisons instead of psychiatric facilities.. Many of them also are alcoholics or have other substance abuse problems. An aspie on alcohol could be mistaken for someone that they might take down town.
There really NEEDS to be testing in prisons for learning disabilities/autism also! Someone in government should INSIST upon this!! The prisons are very overcrowded too. They are saying that 24% of prison population has a severe mental illness.. This was a year ago too, it's worse now! Here's a small quote from the article :
"I suspect if most of us spent much time in these places, we would all develop mental health "problems,'" Hamilton said.
The problem is that politicians and those who influence them do not want to provide more funding to prisons. Prisoners and people who work in prisons are aware of the problems with overcrowding, mental health issues, etc., but they can't even afford to hire enough doctors and nurses to take care of prisoners' physical ailments. The message is, "Send more people to prison for longer sentences and don't give the prisons any resources to deal with the population increase." No one even wants to look at reasons why crimes are committed; to do so is seen as being sympathetic to the criminals. Unfortunately, if these issues are never addressed, crime rates will only increase.
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