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27 Sep 2022, 12:18 am

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That sucks. I know what it's like to throw up frequently. When I was younger, my POTS wasn't as controlled.

I just had some really bad acid reflux. I've always had issues with that.


Hi Worthless.

I'm curious to know more about your experience with POTS, if you don't mind.
I know what it is, but didn't realise vomiting was part of it.
Is that considered a common symptom?

What other conditions did they consider for you before diagnosis?



I think they considered pretty much everything before they gave a very tentative preliminary diagnosis and transfered me to a specialist.

I started having symptoms at the seccond semester of 6th grade after a serious week long mystery illness that took at least another week to recover from. I remeber people commenting that I looked "dead" during that time I was recovering. It got really bad by the start of 7th grade and I actually came close to needing to be held back even though it was all excused absences. Thankfully, they didn't count it as an absence if I made it to the school (even if they immediately called my dad to take me home). The medical testing was initially carried out by my pediatricians and their staff. It seamed like I was in that office all the time for tests and exams. They took countless blood samples. I was even on nurse's first time taking blood from a real pediatric PT, oh boy that was a fun time. My mom intervined after like 7 minutes of torture and demanded that someone else take my blood, but I digress.


They eventually stumbled upon POTS while doing research to try to find an answer and decided to see if that was it. They then did a simple test of measuring my vitals lying down, sitting, and standing while leaning against a wall. And then having my stand there for as long as I could or till 15 minutes while measuring my vitals at regular intervals, I don't remember which. They then concluded that I probably had POTS and that it seemed like the best fit, but they they were wholly unqualified in that area. They prescribed me Gatorade and referred me to one of the top pediatric cardiologists in my metropolitan area. He worked in a children's hospital annex that I had been to before for other things (I have also gone to that cities main children's hospital at least once for testing). He did a similar test, but with a few key differences, he had me hooked up to a full EKG, as well as automatic BP cuff, and pulse oximeter. He also would not let me lean on anything or hold onto anything, but had a nurse there to catch me when/if I fell. The test would start out lying down after he had done an exam on me including checking my pulse via the right femoral artery (really wierd and awkward choice and only got more so as I got older...) And I had been then fully hooked up to the machines. I would me asked to try to lie still and they would do a print out of my EKG, then they would have me sit up and do another, then they would have me stand up and do multiple EKGs at regular intervals untill 15 minutes was up or I could no longer stand. This test was repeated every month till I aged out of his care at age 21. He initially prescribed me beta blockers, but that did not work. He then ended up prescribing me florinef, thermotabs (salt tablets), and Gatorade.

That six months of testing before the referral was the worst as my POTS was in full swing and completely uncontolled. It caused intense nausea, severe vomiting, various other gi issues, trouble standing, vertigo, loss of appetite, ect.. Thankfully with management it is manageable, but is at best a daily hinderance and annoyance. I have passed out numerous times from it, but usually I am good at sitting down or lying down before I pass out, including the first time it happened in the second semester of 6th grade. My pediatric cardiologist said that it would get better and go away in my mid to lat twenties, but I am in my early thirties now and it is still very much an issue.


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27 Sep 2022, 8:23 am

I want to play and all the off the wall nutters are off somewhere taking a dump. :evil:


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I see myself every time I look at my avatar. I think my mind is playing tricks on me.


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27 Sep 2022, 9:11 am

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I find it easier to speak to people that are not very self-conscious because they also tend to not be conscious of how weird I am. They talk comfortably with me, which makes me less self-conscious, which in turn allows me to talk comfortably.



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27 Sep 2022, 9:19 am

I'm listening to some music from the 80s. I'd like to travel back to the 80s and say to my dad, "I prefer Germany over Britain. Do you still love me?" and drop the fake Cockney accent. That would have erased many years of silence between Anglo Dad and I. My dad's British Canadian with a little bit of German.


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27 Sep 2022, 12:21 pm

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27 Sep 2022, 2:07 pm

I'm having my big meal for lunch today instead of sitting outside the lotto store doing scratch n wins.


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27 Sep 2022, 5:54 pm

Seems there was a bit of action around our area last night.
Guy ramming fences trying to ditch his car and 'get' another one.
Confronted a few landowners but they scared him off.
Police caught up with him a couple of towns over.


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27 Sep 2022, 6:02 pm

What is it with fences and crazy people lately?

I may need to make an appearance in my Crime Fighter suit.
I just have one other scene to attend first.


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27 Sep 2022, 7:49 pm

IsabellaLinton, so did that answer your questions?



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27 Sep 2022, 8:03 pm

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I was going to ask about Endoscopy. ^
I'm glad they've done biopsies too.

I was wondering about Colitis.

I knew someone else who did years of testing for food allergies.
She finally went to a Naturopath who diagnosed Celiac.
That's a gluten thing.

Dairy intolerance is really hard to identify.
My doctor swears I don't have a problem with it.
I've been tested for years.
I can tell you ... I definitely have a problem with it.

It's funny that your experience with dairy is the reverse.
(Doctor says yes, you say no. ^ )

The other thing I'd recommend is called an Iron Panel test.
It tests a lot of different variables with iron and ferritin.
I won't get into all that here, but it could explain your anaemia better.

I'm pretty sure that my colon is affected, but since I've changed my diet + been more active + am considerably less stressed I haven't noticed as many issues w/ it for awhile, which is good. I guess I'll see how it's doing if things get worse again though.

I'm also going to try to start cutting things out of my diet (like that elimination diet thingy) to try to figure out what worsens it, so maybe I can avoid those things. Dairy products (specifically things with higher amounts of whey) do worsen it, but I don't think they're the cause as I still have issues w/o dairy + I can eat things w/o it and they'll make me just as sick.

I'm also going to ask my doctor if it's possible for him to check me for nutritional deficiencies beyond an iron deficiency. If I'm constantly depleted in that despite having a proper diet, especially due to malabsorption and ulcers bleeding, I can't imagine that I'm not deficient in other just as important things.



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27 Sep 2022, 8:29 pm

Baguettes are good. I can live off them.


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27 Sep 2022, 10:32 pm

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That sucks. I know what it's like to throw up frequently. When I was younger, my POTS wasn't as controlled.

I just had some really bad acid reflux. I've always had issues with that.


Hi Worthless.

I'm curious to know more about your experience with POTS, if you don't mind.
I know what it is, but didn't realise vomiting was part of it.
Is that considered a common symptom?

What other conditions did they consider for you before diagnosis?



I think they considered pretty much everything before they gave a very tentative preliminary diagnosis and transfered me to a specialist.

I started having symptoms at the seccond semester of 6th grade after a serious week long mystery illness that took at least another week to recover from. I remeber people commenting that I looked "dead" during that time I was recovering. It got really bad by the start of 7th grade and I actually came close to needing to be held back even though it was all excused absences. Thankfully, they didn't count it as an absence if I made it to the school (even if they immediately called my dad to take me home). The medical testing was initially carried out by my pediatricians and their staff. It seamed like I was in that office all the time for tests and exams. They took countless blood samples. I was even on nurse's first time taking blood from a real pediatric PT, oh boy that was a fun time. My mom intervined after like 7 minutes of torture and demanded that someone else take my blood, but I digress.


They eventually stumbled upon POTS while doing research to try to find an answer and decided to see if that was it. They then did a simple test of measuring my vitals lying down, sitting, and standing while leaning against a wall. And then having my stand there for as long as I could or till 15 minutes while measuring my vitals at regular intervals, I don't remember which. They then concluded that I probably had POTS and that it seemed like the best fit, but they they were wholly unqualified in that area. They prescribed me Gatorade and referred me to one of the top pediatric cardiologists in my metropolitan area. He worked in a children's hospital annex that I had been to before for other things (I have also gone to that cities main children's hospital at least once for testing). He did a similar test, but with a few key differences, he had me hooked up to a full EKG, as well as automatic BP cuff, and pulse oximeter. He also would not let me lean on anything or hold onto anything, but had a nurse there to catch me when/if I fell. The test would start out lying down after he had done an exam on me including checking my pulse via the right femoral artery (really wierd and awkward choice and only got more so as I got older...) And I had been then fully hooked up to the machines. I would me asked to try to lie still and they would do a print out of my EKG, then they would have me sit up and do another, then they would have me stand up and do multiple EKGs at regular intervals untill 15 minutes was up or I could no longer stand. This test was repeated every month till I aged out of his care at age 21. He initially prescribed me beta blockers, but that did not work. He then ended up prescribing me florinef, thermotabs (salt tablets), and Gatorade.

That six months of testing before the referral was the worst as my POTS was in full swing and completely uncontolled. It caused intense nausea, severe vomiting, various other gi issues, trouble standing, vertigo, loss of appetite, ect.. Thankfully with management it is manageable, but is at best a daily hinderance and annoyance. I have passed out numerous times from it, but usually I am good at sitting down or lying down before I pass out, including the first time it happened in the second semester of 6th grade. My pediatric cardiologist said that it would get better and go away in my mid to lat twenties, but I am in my early thirties now and it is still very much an issue.


Oh wow! Thank you for all of that.
I'm sorry but I just saw it now.

That was really interesting and you explained it well.
It's something I'm going to look into even further.

When I asked you about it, I was thinking of my daughter.
She has a lot of medical conditions including "Cyclical Vomiting Syndrome" (ewwww)
She has an autoimmune condition, ASD, and other issues.
I sent her a link to see what she thinks.
She's seeing her Rheumatologist soon so I think it's worth investigating.

After reading your story I'm thinking of myself too.
My adrenal system crashed many years ago.
It started with me fainting and having very low BP (60/40).
I was in hospital a long time.
I had all those tests for orthostatic hypotension as well.
I was sent home on Florinef.

This is all really interesting.
I won't keep rambling but I'm glad to hear you had good medical care.
I hope you continue to improve.

Thank you again and good luck at your new job!


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27 Sep 2022, 11:00 pm

I guess I'll finish the rest of that bread. I'd hate to see it go to waste.


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27 Sep 2022, 11:22 pm

IsabellaLinton wrote:

Oh wow! Thank you for all of that.
I'm sorry but I just saw it now.

That was really interesting and you explained it well.
It's something I'm going to look into even further.

When I asked you about it, I was thinking of my daughter.
She has a lot of medical conditions including "Cyclical Vomiting Syndrome" (ewwww)
She has an autoimmune condition, ASD, and other issues.
I sent her a link to see what she thinks.
She's seeing her Rheumatologist soon so I think it's worth investigating.

After reading your story I'm thinking of myself too.
My adrenal system crashed many years ago.
It started with me fainting and having very low BP (60/40).
I was in hospital a long time.
I had all those tests for orthostatic hypotension as well.
I was sent home on Florinef.

This is all really interesting.
I won't keep rambling but I'm glad to hear you had good medical care.
I hope you continue to improve.

Thank you again and good luck at your new job!


Thank you.

The test that my pediatric cardiologist did and the variation done by my pediatricians was refered to as "the poor man's tilt table test" by my pediatric cardiologist, a reference to a similar test carried out strapped to a tilting table.

My blood has a tendency to pool in whatever part of me is down. This also causes the blood to drain from the parts of me that are up. I can even demonstrate to people in person by lifting one arm with the other lowered and then switching. If my head is too low versus the rest of my body, it can feel like it is about to explode from the blood.

I have to drink about 1gal (4L) per day on average, but that can be significantly more depending on what I am doing, the weather, how I am feeling, and other factors. I can also sometimes get away with drinking as little as 2L a day sometimes without additional issues.

The symptoms are to some extent basically like a bad hangover, but with out the fun of having been drinking alcohol (unless I was drinking alcohol, which definitely triggers symptoms so I don't tend to do that).


I have lost consciousness in some interesting places and come close to it many more times. Also, while POTS is not fatal or dangerous on its own, it can lead to situations that could be quite serious; mainly due to the loss of consciousness aspect. I think the closest I came to a very serious situation from POTS was when I blacked out and fell backward; upon coming to, I realized that the back of my head had landed just a couple inches from a very sharp, jagged, spear like corner of a rock sticking several inches out of the ground.


I also have multiple other conditions as well.