Do You Feel Your School Years Were a Waste?

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14 Jan 2008, 5:12 pm

I learned stuff in school but I learned more outside of it. I often feel like it was a waste, but then I learned a lot about high school, so then I don't feel it was a waste anymore.



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14 Jan 2008, 5:13 pm

Ana54 wrote:
I learned stuff in school but I learned more outside of it. I often feel like it was a waste, but then I learned a lot about high school, so then I don't feel it was a waste anymore.


high school was the biggest waste to me..

ALL OF IT WAS>..


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14 Jan 2008, 5:17 pm

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I learned far for on my own then I ever learned in a classroom. I often already knew what was being discussed in class.


That sums me up. The basics were good, though I could read at an 8 year old's level and add before I started school. I did get to choose subjects that I liked, which was good, I could indulge some of my pet loves, but I felt myself talking to the teacher more often than not and being geeky with the teacher rather than following what the class were doing... I did probably half the amount of homework the other kids did for that reason; the teachers would excuse me because I'd have had a 45-min discussion about it with the teacher over lunch that day comparing theories and ideas and thoughts!!

I did learn how to be strong though, and how friends are fickle, and how to navigate the social minefield with the smug knowledge that I'd probably not speak to 97% of those kids again within a few years... and I haven't, we all drifted, I now have a bunch of friends who are on my level and who I love to bits. None of them I knew in high school.


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14 Jan 2008, 6:02 pm

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Did you emerge from school *educated* and/or knowledgeable or do you feel that those years were wasted and your real education began with the advent of the internet and/or through your own discoveries and reading of books, experience etc..?


I think they were good and bad for me my school years all for different reasons obviously.



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14 Jan 2008, 7:02 pm

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I learned the basics in primary school.... But most of my knowledge comes from self-directed learning.


Same here. I had trouble paying attention to a lot of classes in high school. If it wasn't one of my main interests I couldn't focus.


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14 Jan 2008, 7:13 pm

absolutley. i could have done alot more constructive things with my time other than learning how to be a citizen. because thats basically all school is for


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14 Jan 2008, 7:28 pm

School sucked and I passed some subjects without really learning anything.
If I only could have had a laugh while at it instead of being bullied it would have been ok.

I think my last 9 years of life were a waste.
Uni was some sort of pain; I was only interested in stuff I could do while not at uni.
Then I graduated to find out jerks who studied what they liked are doing better and getting the kind of jobs I aspired to - while I get crappy jobs where I get bullied.



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14 Jan 2008, 7:52 pm

Yes.

I dropped out so I'd have more spare time to truly educate myself.


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14 Jan 2008, 9:03 pm

High School was just too difficult for me as I had little help for my Aspergers, ADD, Dyslexia and Dyspraxia. Although, it introduced me to topics I would have never have known about including Science and Maths, and I also learnt stuff from other people at school like other cutures and other opinions. But mostly all of my learning came after I left school at 16. In fact everything just got amazingly better after that.

I think the size of schools should be reduced and more specialist ones should be created (arts school, science, etc). This would reduce most of the traumas suffered here.



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14 Jan 2008, 9:05 pm

i am going to TRY online school... if that does not work outright drop out and GED is the option


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14 Jan 2008, 9:45 pm

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Well, I have to say that I ALSO considered it a WASTE! If I had more books, etc... and just stayed at home, I would have learned SO much more!

My CAREER is built on my autodidactic learning, and inherent logic. I am up against people that have studied this stuff for YEARS in college, and they don't even know the BASICS!

It is astounding how few things I use were actually even TAUGHT in school. Some were used before I even found a school that taught them. I learned UNIX and POSIX from an AT&T book I bought at a store.
Well, our system in the United States is designed on grades. The higher you get, the more likely you will receive some reward (ie a scholarship, honor roll, recognition etc) Even smart kids will just study to make an A, which means daydreaming during class, cramming before the test, then passing. My school even ran an article about the top students cheating because "it's all about the grades. if you score low, you are nothing."

So what this all adds up to is people not taking advantage and reading to learn, but reading to get by. Hey, who can blame them? Entry into college is competitive. And they were always telling us that we needed really high scores to be considered for college.

So there is a lot of pressure. There's not enough time to think and contemplate what we learn. Only to memorize and recite back, only to forget the next day.

I have a college professor who said"I wish people would take more responsibility in their own education."

That's really the only way to retain this info. You hear it in class. That's a basis. You go home and learn, and it sticks.

If our school systems were based off of philosophy, principle, theory, discussion, and just simple deeper elements to different subjects, we would really get something out of public schooling.


I liked to learn in high school and now in university. Any class that required me to answer a question that made that subject relevant to life made the material more retainable and more rewarding.



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14 Jan 2008, 10:04 pm

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Well, I have to say that I ALSO considered it a WASTE! If I had more books, etc... and just stayed at home, I would have learned SO much more!

My CAREER is built on my autodidactic learning, and inherent logic. I am up against people that have studied this stuff for YEARS in college, and they don't even know the BASICS!

It is astounding how few things I use were actually even TAUGHT in school. Some were used before I even found a school that taught them. I learned UNIX and POSIX from an AT&T book I bought at a store.
Well, our system in the United States is designed on grades. The higher you get, the more likely you will receive some reward (ie a scholarship, honor roll, recognition etc) Even smart kids will just study to make an A, which means daydreaming during class, cramming before the test, then passing. My school even ran an article about the top students cheating because "it's all about the grades. if you score low, you are nothing."

So what this all adds up to is people not taking advantage and reading to learn, but reading to get by. Hey, who can blame them? Entry into college is competitive. And they were always telling us that we needed really high scores to be considered for college.

So there is a lot of pressure. There's not enough time to think and contemplate what we learn. Only to memorize and recite back, only to forget the next day.

I have a college professor who said"I wish people would take more responsibility in their own education."

That's really the only way to retain this info. You hear it in class. That's a basis. You go home and learn, and it sticks.

If our school systems were based off of philosophy, principle, theory, discussion, and just simple deeper elements to different subjects, we would really get something out of public schooling.


I liked to learn in high school and now in university. Any class that required me to answer a question that made that subject relevant to life made the material more retainable and more rewarding.


Well, I am in/from the U.S.! That last statement you mentioned is KEY! I, and MANY other kids were screaming for that!



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14 Jan 2008, 10:36 pm

I certainly don't feel my college years were a waste. The classroom time sure, but the sex, drugs and rock and roll were awesome. :twisted:


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15 Jan 2008, 12:11 pm

Dave, did you go to college with me? :P :P Most of what I learned through the education system was very Teflon-y - the info that I didn't need just slid away after the exams, and what I needed to know what stuff I'd learned on my own anyway.

My bestest memory of high school was graduation day - the Mayor turned into a big snake halfway through his speech then we all brought out our crossbows & rocket launchers and blew up the frickin' building - no, wait - that was Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Mine was the first two lines of "Kodachrome".