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23 Jan 2008, 12:01 am

She tries to cast herself as both the experienced candidate and the candidate of change. Kinda contradictory there. She also promises to solve all our healthcare woes with socialized medicine, but she's in the pockets of the pharmaceutical companies deeper than any other Democrat and all but one Republican. Several people I know are seriously considering fleeing the country if Hillary is our next president, and I can't blame them.


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23 Jan 2008, 12:18 am

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She tries to cast herself as both the experienced candidate and the candidate of change. Kinda contradictory there. She also promises to solve all our healthcare woes with socialized medicine, but she's in the pockets of the pharmaceutical companies deeper than any other Democrat and all but one Republican. Several people I know are seriously considering fleeing the country if Hillary is our next president, and I can't blame them.


I don't like Hitlery because I hate socialism. Also, I think 8 years of Clinton's and 12 years of Bush's is enough. If she wins, it would be 24 years with 2 family's in power. Are the Clinton's and Bush's the only two families qualified to run our country? I think other people can do the job better. I plan to vote for Ron Paul since I'm into limited government and more freedom.



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23 Jan 2008, 12:21 am

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I don't like Hitlery because I hate socialism. Also, I think 8 years of Clinton's and 12 years of Bush's is enough. If she wins, it would be 24 years with 2 family's in power. Are the Clinton's and Bush's the only two families qualified to run our country? I think other people can do the job better. I plan to vote for Ron Paul since I'm into limited government and more freedom.

Well, Zendell, we're having quite the debate over on another thread, but here's one place where we can definitely agree. I just wish the media would stop censoring Paul. He's the only candidate who can back up his platform with a consistent voting record. Limited government is definitely a good thing.


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23 Jan 2008, 2:05 am

Agreed Orwell.

I more hate Clinton because she is nothing but a status symbol. That's it. Cut and dry, status. That's all she cares about. To think she cares about anything else is stupidity.



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23 Jan 2008, 8:46 am

I would definately vote RP before any of the others, most of the people in my area I had a conversation with yesterday..... Most of them are "democrats are good, republicans are bad" people, and theyr all voting Clinton or Barrak.... I tried to explain that both of them are NWO candidates but it's one of those things where people just kinda pretend to understand and then prove the opposite.... I usually do not argue, I let them have their opinion........
But I'm tired of selfish voting (ie "I'm voting for said candidate because theyr gonna help out poeople of my religion" or "my gender" or "my race", etc, without viewing the whole..... Because the whole of it, the common good, effects all of us, and it is short sited and selfish to just few the short term benefits of oneself when making such a decision).



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23 Jan 2008, 9:12 am

I don't trust anyone in politics who is the opposite end of the spectrum. At least Brown is closer to our spectrum. The first woman or black president don't mean owt to me.



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23 Jan 2008, 9:18 am

I don't like her because she is no different from the recent people in charge. Why is Rupert Murdoch owner of Fox donating to her campaign??

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23 Jan 2008, 10:14 am

zendell wrote:
Orwell wrote:
She tries to cast herself as both the experienced candidate and the candidate of change. Kinda contradictory there. She also promises to solve all our healthcare woes with socialized medicine, but she's in the pockets of the pharmaceutical companies deeper than any other Democrat and all but one Republican. Several people I know are seriously considering fleeing the country if Hillary is our next president, and I can't blame them.


I don't like Hitlery because I hate socialism. Also, I think 8 years of Clinton's and 12 years of Bush's is enough. If she wins, it would be 24 years with 2 family's in power. Are the Clinton's and Bush's the only two families qualified to run our country? I think other people can do the job better. I plan to vote for Ron Paul since I'm into limited government and more freedom.


Hillary is the tool of corporate special interests so you don't have to worry about "socialism" from her. She's actually the most Libertarian-leaning candidate on the Democratic side. I find it funny that right-wingers think of her as a leftist monster when she is the most right-wing major Dem candidate on economic issues.


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23 Jan 2008, 10:26 am

I'm dismayed at how ol' sleazy Bill has hit the trail for her, propagandizing for her, twisting Obama's statements in her stead, using that greazy "charm" of his.

And she claims Bill is an 'asset'. :roll:



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23 Jan 2008, 12:39 pm

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I don't trust anyone in politics who is the opposite end of the spectrum. At least Brown is closer to our spectrum. The first woman or black president don't mean owt to me.


I agree that it's stupid to vote for someone just because of their gender or their race. Or their religion for that matter. I don't know much about Brown because I do not really keep up too much with UK politics. But there it is, laid out for the pc police, chav, a black man says it is stupid to vote for someone just because their black. I wouldn't vote for someone because their white either, or male. What concerns me in a candidate is their ability and their intentions, not which race, gender, or religion they belong to.



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23 Jan 2008, 12:42 pm

UncleBeer wrote:
I'm dismayed at how ol' sleazy Bill has hit the trail for her, propagandizing for her, twisting Obama's statements in her stead, using that greazy "charm" of his.

And she claims Bill is an 'asset'. :roll:


Yeah, a lot of lefties fall for his charm, and the fact that they butter up minorities so that they won't look at their actions critically. But all politicians seem to do this with one demographic or another, both left and right wings..... People now vote for special priveledges, rather than voting on issues.



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23 Jan 2008, 2:13 pm

snake321 wrote:
UncleBeer wrote:
I'm dismayed at how ol' sleazy Bill has hit the trail for her, propagandizing for her, twisting Obama's statements in her stead, using that greazy "charm" of his.

And she claims Bill is an 'asset'. :roll:


Yeah, a lot of lefties fall for his charm, and the fact that they butter up minorities so that they won't look at their actions critically. But all politicians seem to do this with one demographic or another, both left and right wings..... People now vote for special priveledges, rather than voting on issues.


"If I become president I will give everyone a puppy"

John Edwards impersonation on MadTV. And of course hillary gets the demonic voice on there too as well as Oprah and Steve Jobs.


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23 Jan 2008, 2:21 pm

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23 Jan 2008, 3:15 pm

Well, it's not even real socialized medecine. All it is is subsidizing our current corrupted broken corporate system. Kucinich and Paul are the only people who offer real solutions (Kucinich is the one who wants real socialized health insurance, and Paul wants to make the market freer). Hillary Obama and Edwards all are supporting this crappy subsidization plan. I find it funny that Edwards does with all of his swaggering and saying "We've gotta fight the corporate power." The Republicans just say "Ye all must buyeth ye own health insurance, or we the government shall smite thee!" I don't know exactly how they'd punish us for not buying health insurance though...

But yeah, Hillary is terrible. So many people are voting for her either because a) she's Clinton's wife or b) because she's a woman. My friend's dad registered as a Democrat just to vote against her.



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23 Jan 2008, 3:51 pm

Hillary = CFR, AIPAC

She's corrupt as it gets. Just another Neo-con.

That is enough for me. They pledge Israel before the US.

She is the annoited one to win this election, and will. Mark my words.



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23 Jan 2008, 4:39 pm

I think she would make a great president. If you think the other candidates don't play politics too, you're fooling yourself. I do not understand all the irrational hatred of her, it goes beyond any political policies she expounds. I think most of it is a deep hatred of powerful women.