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28 Jan 2008, 12:48 pm

Zionism is not so much about jews as it is about certain elite bloodlines coming together..... They hid the movement behind a religion so that anyone who objected, they could call them "anti-semetic". This is the New World Order. Israel owns most all of our representation and our political candidates here in the US. They also run the media, banks, religion, and hollywood. I'm not anti-semetic, there are very many great jewish people.... As I have stated before, I kinda see jews like being similar to aspies in a lot of ways (in fact Einstein was an aspie and a jew). The problem is not judaism, judaism really does not have much to do with zionism (aside from it being used as a cover from criticism of their agenda, which is why they pushed the gears for 2 world wars to lead to the establishment of Israel).
So zionists are not necessarily jewish.... So who are they? Rockefellers, Rothschilds, Carlyles, Carnegies, Fords, all in all 13 largely inbred and very powerful psychotic wealthy elite bloodlines.



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28 Jan 2008, 3:32 pm

Hopefully, the trend of people ignoring this idiotic post will continue. However, I just want to start a new tradition of posting song lyrics/files to threads that are obviously meant to be trolling. So, to start, I will post Gali Atari's "Ein Li Eretz Acheret" (I Have No Other Land), as performed by Ninet Tayeb, winner of the first season of Kochav Nolad (Israel's answer to American Idol:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMaJWZuIvyQ[/youtube]
[In Hebrew]
Ein li eretz acheret
Gam im admati bo'eret
Rak mila be'ivrit
choderet el orkai el nishmati -
Beguf ko'ev, belev ra'ev
Kan hu beiti --

Lo eshtok
ki artzi shinta et paneha

Lo avater lehazkir la
Ve'ashir kan be'ozneha
Ad shetiftach et eineha

Ein li eretz acheret
Gam im admati boeret
Rak mila beivrit
hoderet el orkai el nishmati
Beguf koev, belev raev
Kan hu beiti --

Lo eshtok ki ertzi
shinta et paneha
Lo avater lehazkir la
Veashir kan beozneha
Ad shetiftah et eineha

Ein li eretz aheret
Ad shetihadesh yameha
Ad shetiftah et eineha

Ein li eretz aheret
Gam im admati boeret
Rak mila beivrit
hoderet el orkai el nishmati
Beguf koev, belev raev
Kan -- hu beiti

Beguf koev, belev raev
Kan -- hu beiti

[In English]
I have no other country
even if my land is aflame
Just a word in Hebrew
pierces my veins and my soul -
With a painful body, with a hungry heart,
Here is my home.

I will not stay silent
because my country changed her face

I will not give up reminding her
And sing in her ears
until she will open her eyes

I have no other country
even if my land is aflame
Just a word in Hebrew
pierces my veins and my soul -
With a painful body, with a hungry heart,
Here is my home.

I won't be silent because my country
has changed her face.
I will not give up reminding her
And sing in her ears
until she will open her eyes

I have no other country
until she will renew her glorious days
Until she will open her eyes

I have no other country
even if my land is aflame
Just a word in Hebrew
pierces my veins and my soul -
With a painful body, with a hungry heart,
Here is my home.

With a painful body, with a hungry heart,
Here is my home.



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28 Jan 2008, 3:55 pm

I wasn't trolling, I was posting an honest thread.



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28 Jan 2008, 3:59 pm

Fact remains Israel owns most of our representation here, I believe it's called AIPAC. Zionism is not about jews, granted some of the elite bloodlines may have jewish roots but I'm not attacking all jews. I've got a lot of respect for jewish people. I see them much like cousins to aspies in a way. To I agree with nazis? No. Does that make me anti-German? No.



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28 Jan 2008, 4:20 pm

You don't get it, do you? The era of the shmecky, nebbish Jew is over! The Zionist is the image of the strong Jew who doesn't take s**t from anyone, and apparently, this is one example of that image, to continue the Top 40 hits of this thread:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESNCWrks6vQ[/youtube]

They Ain't Makin' Jews Like Jesus Anymore
(Kinky Friedman)

Well, a redneck nerd in a bowling shirt was a-guzzlin' Lone Star beer
Talking religion and-uh politics for all the world to hear.
They oughta send you back to Russia, boy, or New York City one,
You just want to doodle a Christian girl and you killed God's only son.

I said, "Has it occurred to you, you nerd, that that's not very nice,
We Jews believe it was Santa Claus that killed Jesus Christ!
"You know, you don't look Jewish, he said," near as I could figger
I had you lamped for a slightly anemic, well-dressed country ni**er.

cho: No, they ain't makin' Jews like Jesus anymore,
They don't turn the other cheek the way they done before.
He started in to shoutin' and spittin' on the floor,
Lord, they ain't makin' Jews like Jesus anymore.

He says, "I ain't a racist but Aristitle Onassis is one Greek we don't need,
And them ni**ers, Jews and Sigma Nus, all they ever do is breed.
And wops and micks and slopes and spics and spooks are on my list
And there's one little heeb from the heart of Texas-- is there anyone
I missed ?

Well, I hits him with everything I had right square between the eyes.
I says, "I'm gonna gitcha, you son of a b**** ya, for spoutin' that pack of
lies.
If there's one thing I can't abide, it's an ethnocentric racist;
Now you take back that thing you said 'bout Aristitle Onassis.

No, they ain't makin' Jews like Jesus anymore,
We don't turn the other cheek the way we done before.
You could hear that honky holler as he hit that hardwood floor,
Lord, they ain't makin' Jews like Jesus anymore.

No, they ain't makin' Jews like Jesus anymore,
They ain't making carpenters who know what nails are for.
Well, the whole damn place was singin' as I strolled right out the door
Lord ... they ain't makin' Jews like Jesus anymore.



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28 Jan 2008, 4:29 pm

No, I don't think YOU understand. This is NOT an anti-semetic post. It is anti-zionist, there is a big difference. Zionism does not have anything to do with jewish people, it never has. The same people who created Judaism created Christianity, Islam, hell all the other religions but most notably those two, as judaism's off-spring religions. So religion is a sham to begin with. Any religion. It's a devise to control people.
And apparently some people *cough cough* drink the kool aid a little too much. If you were going to take over the world, what better way to turn people away from viewing the truth than hiding it behind an oppressed groups' beliefs? So if anyone opposes it, all they have to do is yell "anti-semite". I'm not against jews, I am only against SOME jews (I'm against SOME of ANY category of people, that does not even exclude aspies either. Being part of a certain group or clique does not make anyone virtuous), I'm against wealthy oil barons, medias, and banking schemes, some of the zionists are not even the least bit jewish.



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28 Jan 2008, 4:30 pm

I'd like to post a pro-Israel song, but I don't actually know any, since my musical interests are pretty much limited to hard rock, metal and classical. So instead, I'll post the lyrics to the last profanity-free song I listened to, which just so happens to be "One Child" by Savatage.

One child stood before the alter
One child stood out in the rain
One child spent his time imagining
And I don't believe he's coming home again, home again, home again

Right there in the earth I've been drawing a line
I'm digging it deep, don't know if I'll find
A tunnel out so we all can be saved
If not just take this earth and bury me
For this will be my grave

One child hid inside the darkness
One child never said a thing
One child closed his eyes and disappeared
But at night I still can hear him whispering, whispering, whispering

Right there in the earth I've been drawing a line
I'm digging it deep, don't know if I'll find
A tunnel out so we all can be saved
If not just take this earth and bury me
For this will be my grave

I will believe in you
If you still want me to
Or tell me I'm on my own
There on the other side
Tell me the Pilate's died
And we're no longer alone

Take your answers and your promises believe me I don't care
I have held onto your words until I found them only air
What good are your promises if you can always take them back?
Still I hang on every word til my hands are bleeding

I will believe in you
If you still want me to
Or tell me I'm on my own
There on the other side
Tell me the Pilate's died
And we're no longer alone

We have no choice but to stay and follow
We have nothing left except tomorrow
We have nothing left except what will be
What we need here are some new decisions
While you only offer mindless visions
Visions that nobody else can see

We're on our own
We're on our own
We're on our own
We're on our own

I will believe in you
If you still want me to
Or tell me I'm on my own
There on the other side
Tell me the Pilate's died
And we're no longer alone

Right there in the earth I've been drawing a line
I'm digging it deep, don't know if I'll find
A tunnel out so we all can be saved
If not just take this earth and bury me
For this will be my grave



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28 Jan 2008, 4:31 pm

Ha. If you knew any actual Zionists, you'd know they want not one thing to do with the world. All they want is Israel and the return of the Temple.

Oh, and Kinky is teh cool!!



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28 Jan 2008, 4:33 pm

Look it up yourself, AIPAC owns all our representation here in the US. AIPAC lobbyist have bought most of our politicians.



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28 Jan 2008, 4:36 pm

Look at all the powerful business families coming together, theyr buying up everything, businesses are growing stronger by oppressing peoples', this is the real face of zionism, and it's not jewish.



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28 Jan 2008, 4:38 pm

Mc_Jeff wrote:
I'd like to post a pro-Israel song, but I don't actually know any, since my musical interests are pretty much limited to hard rock, metal and classical. So instead, I'll post the lyrics to the last profanity-free song I listened to, which just so happens to be "One Child" by Savatage.

One child stood before the alter
One child stood out in the rain
One child spent his time imagining
And I don't believe he's coming home again, home again, home again

Right there in the earth I've been drawing a line
I'm digging it deep, don't know if I'll find
A tunnel out so we all can be saved
If not just take this earth and bury me
For this will be my grave

One child hid inside the darkness
One child never said a thing
One child closed his eyes and disappeared
But at night I still can hear him whispering, whispering, whispering

Right there in the earth I've been drawing a line
I'm digging it deep, don't know if I'll find
A tunnel out so we all can be saved
If not just take this earth and bury me
For this will be my grave

I will believe in you
If you still want me to
Or tell me I'm on my own
There on the other side
Tell me the Pilate's died
And we're no longer alone

Take your answers and your promises believe me I don't care
I have held onto your words until I found them only air
What good are your promises if you can always take them back?
Still I hang on every word til my hands are bleeding

I will believe in you
If you still want me to
Or tell me I'm on my own
There on the other side
Tell me the Pilate's died
And we're no longer alone

We have no choice but to stay and follow
We have nothing left except tomorrow
We have nothing left except what will be
What we need here are some new decisions
While you only offer mindless visions
Visions that nobody else can see

We're on our own
We're on our own
We're on our own
We're on our own

I will believe in you
If you still want me to
Or tell me I'm on my own
There on the other side
Tell me the Pilate's died
And we're no longer alone

Right there in the earth I've been drawing a line
I'm digging it deep, don't know if I'll find
A tunnel out so we all can be saved
If not just take this earth and bury me
For this will be my grave


I thought you were against blind political correctness were you not? Or is this the only minority group it's "ok" for right wingers to be overly PC about? Probably because jesus freaks can't get around it because their bible states that jews are god's chosen people.
I'll say it again, I consider jews to be much like cousins of we aspies (and some aspies are jewish), I don't have a problem with jews. But Jews, like aspies, and like any other group of people, are humans, and humans make mistakes, humans do evil things.



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28 Jan 2008, 4:52 pm

Since you were polite to me, I'll answer your question reasonably.

I'm against blind political correctness, but I simply do not believe in any of the New World Order/Illuminati related stuff that you do. This extends to "elite bloodlines" and AIPAC's influence over the US. Yes, they have a significant amount of influence, but not anywhere near the magnatude that you are claiming.

I support Israel near 100%, but not because I'm "supposed" to. I support it because when I look with my own eyes, I see a country that is one of the world leaders in science, technology, and human rights*, and one that hasn't been overwhelmed by the self-loathing that has consumed Europe. I see Israel as one of the last beacons of hope in the world when it comes to not being consumed by liberalism and subsequently brought down by frothing-at-the-mouth Shariafascists.



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28 Jan 2008, 4:53 pm

I'll even add this is why I am skeptical even about ron paul, because 1. he's made it this far in politics without getting snuffed out by the sharks, and 2. his foreign policy is mainly with Israel, home of AIPAC. Israel is a cut-throat nation. Not because theyr jewish, but because their human, and Israel is a strategic center for the agenda.
As I have said, all groups of people, be it political, racial, religious, gender, whatever, have contributed to this mess, majority and minority alike. It's time we the people all wake up and realise what's going on, because tomorrow might be too late. Instead of fighting one another, people need to fight big industry, we need to stop over-glorifying group think and embrace our individual rights, this means everyone, black, white, brown, yellow, red, christian, atheist, jewish, muslim, hindu, pagan, male, female, straight, gay, we must all mature and own up to our own criticisms, take responsibility. People have been taught to think and act inside groups, alienating their individuality. Stop being taught what to think, because that is not thinking, that is being down-loaded like a computer or a robot. Just think. I'm tired of people being pitted against one another, not realising that it's the same beaurocrats and international tycoons who are instigating all this crap and selling the tickets to the fights.



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28 Jan 2008, 5:01 pm

I support the idea of a united world-wide working class, to fight against an oppressive and corrupt world system that seeks to enslave all of us. Sadly, many of the working class fall for the traps. A United working class that includes everyone, from all walks of life, this is about protecting humanity. This is more about protecting the future, this is for all people (including jews).
Zionism is everything I am against though...... While I do believe some sort of god exists, we are not spectacular enough in the universe to understand this concept very greatly, and I doubt any of our religions are even nearly correct. Religion is a control devise to keep the masses in line. Religion is not freedom, it is slavery, slavery of the mind. Any ideology that lays out pre-set corn-fed beliefs and opinions and constricts followers from venturing outside their boundaries is a form of mental slavery, a cult, where people are not free to think, as they are unwilling to consider outside possibilities.



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28 Jan 2008, 5:06 pm

Thank you Mc_Jeff for the next hit on our countdown. It's not necessary to post Jewish or Israeli songs, just to post A song. We're trying to chase the trolls out, right? Our next hit on the Top 40 Countdown is brought to you by the hippest Chasid this side of Crown Heights. From Matisyahu, it's "Jerusalem"...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dorvuCpNug[/youtube]

In the ancient days, we will return with no delay
Picking up the bounty and the spoils on our way
We’ve been traveling from state to state
And them don’t understand what they say
3,000 years with no place to be
And they want me to give up my milk and honey
Don’t you see, it’s not about the land or the sea
Not the country but the dwelling of His Majesty

[Chorus]
Jerusalem, if I forget you,
fire not gonna come from me tongue.
Jerusalem, if I forget you,
let my right hand forget what it’s supposed to do.

Rebuild the temple and the crown of glory
Years gone by, about sixty
Burned in the oven in this century
And the gas tried to choke, but it couldn’t choke me
I will not lie down, I will not fall asleep
and I'm come overseas, yes they’re trying to be free
Erase the demons out of our memory
Change your name and your identity
Afraid of the truth and our dark history
Why is everybody always chasing we
Cut off the roots of your family tree
Don't you know that's not the way to be

[chorus]

Caught up in these ways, and the worlds gone craze
Don’t you know it’s just a phase
Case of the Simon says
If I forget the truth then my words won’t penetrate
Babylon burning in the place, can’t see through the haze
Chop down all of them dirty ways,
That’s the price that you pay for selling lies to the youth
No way, not ok, oh no way, not ok, ey
Ain't no one gonna break my stride
Ain't no one gonna pull me down
Oh no, I got to keep on moving
Ain't no one gonna break my stride
Ain't no one gonna pull me down
Oh no, I got to keep on moving
Stay alive

[chorus]



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28 Jan 2008, 5:13 pm

DevilInPgh wrote:
Thank you Mc_Jeff for the next hit on our countdown. It's not necessary to post Jewish or Israeli songs, just to post A song. We're trying to chase the trolls out, right? Our next hit on the Top 40 Countdown is brought to you by the hippest Chasid this side of Crown Heights. From Matisyahu, it's "Jerusalem"...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dorvuCpNug[/youtube]

In the ancient days, we will return with no delay
Picking up the bounty and the spoils on our way
We’ve been traveling from state to state
And them don’t understand what they say
3,000 years with no place to be
And they want me to give up my milk and honey
Don’t you see, it’s not about the land or the sea
Not the country but the dwelling of His Majesty

[Chorus]
Jerusalem, if I forget you,
fire not gonna come from me tongue.
Jerusalem, if I forget you,
let my right hand forget what it’s supposed to do.

Rebuild the temple and the crown of glory
Years gone by, about sixty
Burned in the oven in this century
And the gas tried to choke, but it couldn’t choke me
I will not lie down, I will not fall asleep
and I'm come overseas, yes they’re trying to be free
Erase the demons out of our memory
Change your name and your identity
Afraid of the truth and our dark history
Why is everybody always chasing we
Cut off the roots of your family tree
Don't you know that's not the way to be

[chorus]

Caught up in these ways, and the worlds gone craze
Don’t you know it’s just a phase
Case of the Simon says
If I forget the truth then my words won’t penetrate
Babylon burning in the place, can’t see through the haze
Chop down all of them dirty ways,
That’s the price that you pay for selling lies to the youth
No way, not ok, oh no way, not ok, ey
Ain't no one gonna break my stride
Ain't no one gonna pull me down
Oh no, I got to keep on moving
Ain't no one gonna break my stride
Ain't no one gonna pull me down
Oh no, I got to keep on moving
Stay alive

[chorus]


I'm tired of you calling me a troll.... Why is discussing the possibility that Israel could do something bad considered troll behavior? If I said France was up to some sort of scheme, or England, would it be considered troll material?
Theyr not virtuous just because theyr a jewish nation. Jews are just as capable of doing harm or making mistakes as anyone else are, it's not anti-semetic to think that either. PPR forum is a forum to discuss PPR, to discuss theories, possibilities, and ideas. I am not posting anything with the intent of offending anyone, in fact I have went to great lengths to show this. And I am a "troll" for espousing a view point that does not fit in with main-line society? I'm sorry but that sounds rather fascist.