Social security's messed up

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My boyfriend's aunt applied for SSI two times and got denied twice. She is unable to work because of her blood disease and her doctor told her she can't work. Now she is losing her house so she is moving out and moving to Tillimock where her family is.


Even my ex shouldn't be working because of his back injury because work causes him pain but he works anyway because it's the only way he will live unless he wants to live with his parents for free. He signed up for SSI too last year and got denied.


SSI is so messed up. You can give them all your records, have your doctor write a letter to them about how your condition effects you, they can evaluate you and do an interview and you can tell them all your problems and how you are effected and why you are unable to work, or why it's hard for you to work, etc. and they can still deny you. What is wrong with them?

I definatly think if you pay into the system and you need it it should come to you.

The problem is that the system is broken, their is not enough to go around and it cant sustain itself at this point in time.

The other problem is their are plenty of people on it who can work but get some stupid excuse so they dont have to work. So us hardworking folks get to pay for them to sit on their ass just cause of something stupid, stuff the average joe deals with everyday and still manages to work, I think these people are stealing personally and if I was in charge I would see to it they were punished and payed back every dime cause people with real problems need it and all of us will someday like when we retire or when we die.

personally I think Dr's are to quick to hand out SSI referals, people with minor problems need to suck it up, not be a drain on society and the rest of us hardworking people who could use the money for our familes or DR's to keep us healthy as opposed to crying and going on SSI.

My opinion is that this nation needs to invest in Social Security once we fix the national budget and probably should shrink our military by NOT getting involved in conflicts overseas. We need to investigate those who dont need it or are just using it so they dont have to work. We need to increase what workers pay into the program and reduce benifits to some people who may not need it that bad as others.

A little backpain can be dealt with, I for one have backpain and work everyday or pay outa pocket for pain pills so I can go to work and pay into the program. I feel your boyfriend should not get SSI, if I can hack it, why cant he?

I tried to get it for having seizures (grand mal or whatever they call it now) and I was basically told I would have to have them on a monthly basis to even be considered, and they say I have to keep trying medicines until basically I prove theres nothing out there that works. Well I found one called Tegretol, the problem is its it makes me a zombie, I'd honestly have seizures then be on it, SSI's response too bad. So I'm stuck between having seizures and feeling like s**t and being unable to get a job because no one wants to deal with my seizures.

is there no group or government thing that will come out and fill in the forms? this is one of the most commonest problems for being refused disability benefits from what am have seen across forums over the years.
Need to get someone experienced with this sort of stuff to do it.

Yeah, I've heard it can be like that, and was told to expect it when I applied. I somehow had no trouble, but I have had friends who have, and they say, re-apply and re-apply and re-apply and find an advocate well-versed in this stuff if it isn't working. If the person genuinely can't work, appeal as often as possible, because they often try to deny even when it's warranted just to save money.

I am terribly sorry about this. My mom had to SUE them to get it...

SSI SSDI both are sucky government controlled things...

if only healthcare were free..

and if only there were free housing (that is not crappy apartments in a crappy ghetto area... i mean a real HOUSE for free)

In the UK, a non-working Aspie, with good advocacy and willing doctors, would be getting around $1400 a month including housing costs, and of course free health care... Must stop bitching about what a rough time we have here...

Was she getting it for you?


Canada has free healthcare, everyone is on it, I heard Australia does it too. USA doesn't. I don't think it put any effect on us if we got it too because look at Canada and Australia.

People do get houses in a housing program btw. My boyfriend's sister has a house and she is in it but it took her four years because she was on the waiting list. Before, she lived in an apartment but it wasn't crappy.

no... we didnt file for me yet... we are filing for me soon..

she has bad back..

But the thing is he couldn't afford pain pills. He had money problems because he pay 600 dollars a month for gas because he has a job where he has to use his car and his job doesn't pay for gas, people have to pay for their own, he had car insurance and he had more than one car, he had two phones and I remember it added up to over three hundred dollars because it included internet and the electric bill was high but he was a on program where the bill stays the same and he has to pay the rest at the end of the year.


Because lot of people abuse the SSI system, they deny a lot of people who do actually need it so they have to suffer? So it be up to their families to support them. It makes me mad too when people abuse it. Heck I work, I don't want to be unemployed. I make more money than I get from SSI. I'd only get 623 a month and I'd have to be in a small studio with section 8 waiting on the housing list. I heard they even complain about not getting enough money from them because they want more. Well, they can get off their ass and work. I know some b***h about their checks lowering if they work.

Depending on the kind of job, the IRS may permit these unreimbursed expenses to be deducted from his income before having to compute his tax. If he isn't doing that and if he qualifies for that deduction, that could help a little. Maybe $100 or $200 worth. Wouldn't pay for all of it, but some.

Jon

i was denied twice till i got an expert (non profit organization who specializes in this stuff(kind of like a lawyer that helps get people on ssd and welfare) to help me. i found out the easiest way to get the help you have to talk to a nerologist/physcologist and they will give you a stack of paper work and tests which include the following.

Personal Assessment Inventory (PAI)
Substance Abuse Subtle Screening Inventory(SASSI)
Fundamental Inventory of Relational Orientation,Behavior and Feeling (FIRO-B & FIRO-F)
Codependacy Assesment (CODA)
Coping Mechanisms (COPE)
Latent Internalized Parenting Effects(LIPHE)

you have to have more the autism or adhd, back pain or a blood disease won't get you on ssd. you have to be defined as severely disabled too get any help....

That and, there's more than one kind of back pain. Some kinds a person can get up and do all the usual things it just takes more effort. Some kinds a person can barely even get out of bed. And most kinds fall in between. I've had kinds of back pain that are really minor at times, and other times I've had kinds where all I could do, even on pain meds, was curl up in a ball and cry. I know people who have back pain conditions that put them permanently in wheelchairs despite otherwise having the physical ability to walk -- the pain just makes it impossible (such as my friend with an almost totally fused spine with a huge degree of correction, immense inflammation, and only a few remaining vertebra below the fusion, and they're nearly dislocated, permanently -- and she doesn't even have the most severe form of her condition). Saying "back pain" is like saying "skin condition" -- some skin conditions can kill a person, and others are either mildly unpleasant or not even unpleasant at all just odd-looking. Most aren't either extreme. So you can't say that just because one person with back pain can work, another can, unless you know the exact nature of not only their back pain, and not even only their back pain and money/insurance situation, but also their other conditions as well (since sometimes there's a cumulative effect, where you could have worked in one area, avoiding one that would cause a problem with one condition, except for the fact that you have another condition that would cause problems for you in that area... etc).

Last edited by anbuend on 12 Feb 2008, 6:28 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Isn't that "Life Interpersonal History Enquiry?"

Jon

well based on my evaluation it says Latent Internalized Parenting Effects...

actually i think your right jonk. looks like my evaluator used a short version of something...

I've read that they will normally deny someone 2-3 times before they actually approve it. Just because they want to save money and figure most people won't reapply...So, I think your best bet is to find some type of advocate for this...good luck!