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I don't care about rednecks either way. Conservative bigotry will soon be dead and forgotten. Heh, graemephillips, mention your belief about the traditional patriarchal family structure around some San Francisco liberals. You probably wouldn't be hated as much as simply laughed out of the room.

Homophobia as well. Sure, gay marriage is still illegal in most states, but tremendous progress has been in it's acceptance in modern America. You could be institutionalized in the past, and now it's practically hip.

I'm no hippy, I'm more middle-ground than liberal or conservative; I drink coffee black and I enjoy a good steak, but you can't fight progress because progress will always win as humanity improves itself. I respect people's individual beliefs in religious conservatism, but it's a personal issue that should not be forced into public policy.

We Southerners have the work ethic and lower taxes that makes us prosperous.

So you believe in a theocracy? A government where, lemme guess, people are allowed to believe in other things, but they will not be able to enjoy equal rights? Where YOUR religion is everyone's law? Is that what you support?
There is no proof your religion is the right one, or even that there is a right religion. Creationism doesn't even count as science, let alone evidence. The main reason your so extreme about your beliefs is because your just following conformity and worshipping authority, C'MON, ADMIT IT. That is not even freedom, it's celebrating mental slavery while demonizing people who have more balls than you do.

Never under-estimate the power of stupid people in large numbers. Theyr still around, the same rednecks who just a few centuries ago were burning witches at stakes, they haven't changed a day. All in the name of conformity, eh?

graemephillips writes:
"I agree entirely with the principle of libertarianism. People should be free to accept or reject Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour and they have the right to do stuff that the Bible opposes (like adultery) if they so wish: - it is their problem when they reach Judgement Day and have to account for rejecting Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour. Faith is only faith if it comes from a pure heart and nobody can force a pure heart upon someone: - it has to come within. "

There lies the problem, anyone with different religious beliefs can not even be spoken of in a positive light. "Oh I won't judge you for being a sinner and burning in hell". You could try keeping that ignorant crap to yourself when dealing with people of other beliefs. I noticed it appears you also praised Mel Gibson for an anti-semetic tirade (I've barely heard anything about gibson's tirade but you appear to be confirming it). This sounds rather psychotic, cuts kinda close to kkk does it not?.....

As I mentioned, I believe in the principle of libertarianism. Part of libertarianism is the freedom to say something whether or not some smug liberals who like to think of themselves as respectable citizens disapprove. Under such a principle, I am free to promulgate the Bible's message that unless you give your life to the Lord, that life belongs to Satan. Similarly, Mel Gibson is free to indulge in an anti-semitic rant if he wants. Also, black people are free to rant on about how white people are the oppressors.

People who genuinely believe in tolerance should accept my right to say things that people don't want to hear. I frequently hear people saying lots of revolting un-Christian things, but under the principle of libertarianism, they are free to say it.

So your supporting someone going on an anti-semetic lunatic fringe, but you claim to be such a "proud christian".... According to your bible, jews are god's chosen people. In fact, Jesus was jewish. Does that get you flustered bubba lol?

(PS, DevilInPgh, pay attention, because you wanted to call me anti-semetic for not supporting zionism, now I'm saying something in defense of jewish people, not to make a point to you but because I feel it is right, but hopefully this also proves I don't have a problem with judaism. But you've got to see me defending as well as criticizing before you can pass such judgement on me).

I know some people (even on WP) who say they'd rather go to Hell than live with a vengeful God forever. God allows them that choice. He chooses not to reach down and warp their wills toward Himself.

Gibson's got major personal issues, and if his mouth spoke from his heart on the night he criticized the Jews, he is headed for trouble on Judgment Day. There's no such thing as a Christian who hates people. The Bible is clear on that:

"If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames, but have not love, I gain nothing." (1 Cor 13:1-3)

If you always hate people, and fully want to, you're simply not a Christian -- that's obvious in the Bible:

"Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire." (Matt 7:15-19)

In other words, if it doesn't talk love and walk love, it's not a servant of the God of love.

"Not every one that saith unto me, 'Lord, Lord', shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? And in thy name have cast out devils? And in thy name done many wonderful works?' And then will I profess unto them, 'I never knew you: depart from me, you that work iniquity.'" (Matt 7:21-23)

So, how about that? People can think they're Christians, but their hearts aren't right with God, and at the end, Jesus will essentially say, "Sure, you used my name everywhere you went, for your own glory, but you were never my friend, because you were not a friend to those in need. You ignored those who needed your help. Therefore, goodbye." No loveless person can enter Heaven, even if he or she is great in all other ways.

Rednecks (along with their urban counterparts, Ghetto thugs) are a drain on our society. They are taking america back to primitive ways and they make our country look bad. Plus they are stupid, violent, and listen to crappy music.

Do you believe in a master race too?