Autistic (Asperger) Student had 900 child porn collection

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Thankfully, it appears that Larree has now excluded himself from any juries where such decisions might be made; such preconceptions don't work well in a jury-based judicial system. *shakes head* He has his opinion; providing he maintains it as such and refrains from putting words in the mouths of others, there is little I can say beyond my disgust and revulsion to his way of thinking. And while I may despise his way of thought, I will defend his right to have his own opinion. My thoughts? (In all cases, the questions asked in the first response still apply - just didn't want to repeat) -

1) Analyze situation - is there a pre-existing relationship? is there incest involved? what is the age of consent in the state we're discussing hypothetically? parental knowledge/consent? Did the adult violate a position of trust (teacher, coach, doctor)? Worst case scenario - low level notification, counseling, age restrictions in work, short-term incarceration, in-depth probation for a moderate duration, immediate severe penalties for a second offense and immediate consequences for any violations in conduct.
2) Extreme fines for the company, shut down operations, pursuit of the offending photographer, fines for subscribers, punishment for personal collections. Jail time would depend on extent of and any prior offenses.
3) Long-term incarceration, observation and study, consideration of castration, option of capital punishment in cases that also result in traumatic injury or death.
4) Counseling for both the 18 and 17 year olds. Fines for company for failure to constrain content.
5) See answer for number 1.
6) Is this in a sexual manner, or just taking a bath or running naked in the sprinklers? Insufficient data to respond; if sexual, then restrictions on involvement with kids; limited jail time; ongoing observation and probation, counseling.

Really hard to answer when there is so little clarification.


M.

Enough with your insults, M. Have you ever been called to serve on a jury? I have. And they sent me home.

My answers are virtually identical to makuranososhi, except

4) the 17 yo has commited no crime what-so-ever, and the 18 yo is looking at a page that contains content voluntarly posted by a friend. Also, the site is presumably covered under "safe harbor" protections. No charges should be filed, short of a "worst case" that I'm not able to think of.

I would probably be lower on exact durations or extent of punishments, but within the same ballpark.

Last edited by roguetech on 25 Jul 2008, 1:23 pm, edited 2 times in total.

How is it an insult to... Oh, nevermind!

[edit]He stated a fact... the jury system is specifically designed to exclude those with extreme views (on either side). (And he stated his opionion, which is something that you have not hesitated to do.)[/edit]

No insult, Larree. As RT wrote, the system is designed to prevent those with extreme views and prejudicial preconception from serving in positions where their views would unduly affect the outcome of a trial. Your views would likely be considered extreme compared to societal standards... I'm not picking on you; your words could be used to disqualify you from serving on a jury. As for being thankful, that is my personal opinion... I support you having your own, and will not be dissuaded from mine. I meant what I said - I don't agree with you, but as long as you don't put words in the mouths of others, I stand by the fact that you are entitled to your opinion. Please consider doing me the same courtesy.

[edit] In practical fairness, there would likely be an attempt on the side of the prosecution to have me dismissed because my views are on somewhat on the other side of center, in that I try vigilantly not to give into group-thought while looking at things from a different vantage point - having me on the jury would mean a lot of questions and consideration, which is not something a prosecutor is likely to want in such a trial. Just something I thought I should add. [/edit]


M.

Last edited by makuranososhi on 25 Jul 2008, 1:46 pm, edited 1 time in total.

The specifics are pretty hard for me to say - I've never aspired to sit in judgment for that very reason. As for the 4th scenario, there are some issues - the site should not be hosting nude photos without protections in place, and federal law in the US would be in effect making the interstate accessibility of said images an issue. The girls need to be counseled on the dangers of putting such material on the web, and that they are not anonymous despite how it may seem. I don't see it as punitive, but preventative.


M.