Yet more data showing conservatives happier than libs

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Ragtime
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07 May 2008, 7:49 pm

monty wrote:
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Ragtime, your constant bashing on liberals got old a long time ago. Pull your head out of your ass, and show a little more respect, you wonderful person.


I don't bash liberals. What would be the point of that?
How can I convince someone to come over to my side if I bash him?
I bash liberalism, AKA short-sighted solutions.


Just yesterday, you were bashing liberals through and through:

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A true liberal wakes up each day with a blank state in his memory. He's not really sure what worked
yesterday, or yesteryear; he just knows he likes pleasure. Preferably, the quickest success that seems possible.
He's not interested in investigating whether the short-'n-easy paths are necessarily the best ones;
he wants to do them, and he wants to do them now. Open-minded, patient research is something completely foreign
to a liberal. They're like children.



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So, to put it more simply for you, a liberal is an ignoramus who believes he is wise.
He believes he knows more about issues than those more experienced than himself.


Your a fool AND a liar!


But what I wrote is true! The quintessential liberal is as I sketched him out to be -- and I followed that up by saying very few people are this quintessential lib.



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07 May 2008, 7:52 pm

What about us moderates? :(



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07 May 2008, 7:55 pm

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Being liberal always means either one of two things:
1. Trying something that has never worked.
2. Trying something that has always failed.


Isn't number two already covered under number one?


No, but I could have worded them clearer.

1. Trying something brand new
2. Trying something quite old that has failed nearly every time, or indeed every time



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07 May 2008, 8:09 pm

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Conservative talk radio exists to manufacture outrage. All the very conservative people I know grumble constantly - taxes, some liberal did this, things aren't the way they used to be.


Conservative talk radio, like Rush, are not what I'd consider conservative or of having conservative ideals.


Well, I certainly wouldn't confuse Rush with a conservative scholar. But the talk radio goons are in fact important leaders of the modern conservative movement - millions of people listen to them, while only a few read scholarly treatises.



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07 May 2008, 8:15 pm

Ragtime wrote:
Escuerd wrote:

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Being liberal always means either one of two things:
1. Trying something that has never worked.
2. Trying something that has always failed.


Isn't number two already covered under number one?


No, but I could have worded them clearer.

1. Trying something brand new
2. Trying something quite old that has failed nearly every time, or indeed every time


Giving women and negroes the vote. That was certainly brand new. Minimum wage, occupational health and safety. Public libraries. Will never work. Public universities - failure every time, which is why people from around the world want to attend them. Those liberals - darn them to heck! Maybe if you pray hard enough, God will put a curse on them. Oh, wait, Hurricane Katrina and 9/11 were from God, in retaliation for all the liberal hanky-panky America has permanently sunk to. Must be true, Robertson, Hagee and all the conservatives masquerading as men of God told us its so.



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07 May 2008, 8:16 pm

It should perhaps also be noted that conservatives are more likely to be religious who also are more likely to be "happier". Personally, I don't see why people care about this happiness research; happiness is not all that matters in life and it cannot necessarily be achieved by some anyway (and I don't mean depressed people; it is also known that more ignorant people tend to be more happier, whereas those with knowledge would have a harder time trying to be ignorant because of their own nature).



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07 May 2008, 8:20 pm

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It should perhaps also be noted that conservatives are more likely to be religious who also are more likely to be "happier". Personally, I don't see why people care about this happiness research; happiness is not all that matters in life and it cannot necessarily be achieved by some anyway (and I don't mean depressed people; it is also known that more ignorant people tend to be more happier, whereas those with knowledge would have a harder time trying to be ignorant because of their own nature).


Agree and Senator Clinton is a very good example with not dropping out of the race.


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07 May 2008, 8:39 pm

1. It's Fox Snooze. *YAWN*

2. Just goes to show that ignorance is bliss.


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07 May 2008, 8:57 pm

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Giving women and negroes the vote. That was certainly brand new. Minimum wage, occupational health and safety. Public libraries. Will never work. Public universities - failure every time, which is why people from around the world want to attend them. Those liberals - darn them to heck! Maybe if you pray hard enough, God will put a curse on them. Oh, wait, Hurricane Katrina and 9/11 were from God, in retaliation for all the liberal hanky-panky America has permanently sunk to. Must be true, Robertson, Hagee and all the conservatives masquerading as men of God told us its so.

You know, frankly, a conservative view *could* very easily argue that all of those were bad moves.

For example: women and negroes tend to vote left wing and for increases in the size of the government(in fact, conservative scholar John Lott argued that giving women the vote is the real reason that the government's size has been increasing since the beginning of the 20th century). So, we could argue that it is bad.

Conservatives also like an unregulated market, and frankly have argued against minimum wages quite vocally and have argued that occupational health and safety regulation are minor things: http://econlog.econlib.org/archives/200 ... ing_a.html

Well, actually, Thomas Sowell argues that the subsidization of college costs leads to inefficient college expenditures, and rising prices. http://www.townhall.com/columnists/Thom ... of_college
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/Thom ... ge_part_ii
http://www.townhall.com/Columnists/Thom ... e_part_iii

And the Economist argues that the reason why our university education is so valuable as opposed to Europe isn't that it is public, but rather because it is so private.
http://www.economist.com/surveys/displa ... E1_QPPJJQQ (Sadly, this article used to be free... and 'twas so when I read it)

But, let's see, public libraries though, I will admit I like them a bit, just a bit of a bad selection there.



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07 May 2008, 9:33 pm

Did the OP REALLY just use Faux News as a reliable source?

If they said it would be sunny, I'd be sure to pack an umbrella.


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07 May 2008, 9:46 pm

monty wrote:
oscuria wrote:
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Conservative talk radio exists to manufacture outrage. All the very conservative people I know grumble constantly - taxes, some liberal did this, things aren't the way they used to be.


Conservative talk radio, like Rush, are not what I'd consider conservative or of having conservative ideals.


Well, I certainly wouldn't confuse Rush with a conservative scholar. But the talk radio goons are in fact important leaders of the modern conservative movement - millions of people listen to them, while only a few read scholarly treatises.


Ann Coulter in all his glory does a great disservice. They're just in it for the money, like Televangelists. I truly don't believe they give a damn about anything they say.



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07 May 2008, 9:47 pm

fabshelly wrote:
Did the OP REALLY just use Faux News as a reliable source?

If they said it would be sunny, I'd be sure to pack an umbrella.


Yes, and NBC will inform you of a hurricane when it's sprinkling outside.



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07 May 2008, 9:56 pm

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Ann Coulter in all his glory does a great disservice. They're just in it for the money, like Televangelists. I truly don't believe they give a damn about anything they say.


I've interacted with the crazies on both sides during and after college, and the people are actually true believers in their respective ideologies. While the Ann Coulters (isn't she a women) of the world may exaggerate their beliefs for dramatic effect on occasion, I think they also genuinely believe in their causes and they are right (of course they probably also might say people like you are talk and they don't really believe in what they claim to).



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07 May 2008, 10:17 pm

Conservatism:

We can solve all the world’s problems simply by cutting taxes, forcing fundamentalist Christianity on all US citizens, and killing off those brown folks who “hate our freedom”. It’s that simple!

Conservatism works! It’s been working for eight straight years! I don’t know where this country would be if not for our Fearless Leader!

We’ve got our heads screwed on so extra tight we have to strain our neck to see what’s in front of us!



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07 May 2008, 10:46 pm

neoconservatism is socialism disguised in a veil of moral conservatism.


there's nothing conservative about neocons.

fox news is just neocon propaganda...not journalism of any kind. unless you include yellow journalism.



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08 May 2008, 9:10 am

Kalister1 wrote:
What about us moderates? :(


I really, really don't know.

But I think you guys should eventually make up your minds as to which
team-with-a-chance-to-win you're going to support,
if you can't create a new winning team.


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