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skafather84
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28 May 2008, 4:13 pm

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Oh you libbies are ever the humble group.

I like how you can just label someone so easily. I think most people here are moderate actually.

now...are you thinking cali liberal or the rest of the country liberal?

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28 May 2008, 4:20 pm

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Barack Obama isn't really Muslim, you know. He belongs to a church in Chicago, though recently he's denounced his pastor J. Wright. The whole "secret Muslim" story is just a nasty bit of propagnda. I don't buy it, and I'm not even American.

Who can really say with certainty what a public figure's inner beliefs are?
All we can view is the evidence, whichever way it points.

And it points to him not being a Muslim. Geez :roll:

And even if it did, Muslim != Evil Terrorist. There's nothing inheriently wrong with being Muslim. Saying that every Muslim is effectively part of al Queda is like saying that every Christian is effectively part of the Ku Klux Klan.

Like I have said repeatedly, prove the connection. If it's so obvious, then that'll be very easy.

As so many here do, you're making up claims and then attributing them to me.

Well, what exactly is your problem with Islam?

What a question! It might be shorter to explain what aren't my problems with Islam.

For one, that, according to Islam and its practitioners, I am an "infidel" three times over, in that I'm American, I'm Jewish, and I'm Christian. And Islam teaches that Christians, Jews, and Americans should be killed wherever they are found (“kill the infidel wherever you find them” -- Suras 2.191; 4.89; 5.33; 8.12; 8.65; 9.5).

Also the fact that Muslims teach in their schools in the Middle East that Jews are the children of apes and pigs.
Also, Muslims train their children almost from birth to prepare for jihad against regular citizens of Israel, America, Europe, and indeed the whole non-Muslim world. Islam has exported and funded world terrorism for centuries, and anyone with a thinking brain and a decent education known this.

I'd have to say that these are probably my top two objections to the religion and those who teach and practice such things as I mentioned, even though I have pages more objections. I'm not going to waste my time and energy listing them out for you.

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28 May 2008, 4:34 pm

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...And experience. What the Muslims did to us on September 11th affected us all,

the muslims didn't do anything you ignorant, hateful pile of pig excrement. the terrorists do not represent muslims as a whole just as you do not represent christianity on a whole (as many are thankful for).

Islam, ergo Muslims, fostered the hate and propaganda that led to 9/11.

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28 May 2008, 4:35 pm

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i have to agree with skafather, ragtime, you are among the vilest and most pernicious members of this forum.

This comes as no surprise from you.

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28 May 2008, 4:37 pm

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The 9/11 attacks were the responsibility of a group of terrorists, using their own interpretation of Islamic theology as a thin justification for their actions. Saying that the attacks were the work of Muslims, and that we should therefore be afraid of anyone whose name even hints at Middle Eastern origins, is not dissimilar from saying that the child-molesting Catholic priests mean that all Christians are pedophiles, and that you should never entrust your children to anyone whose name hints at Western European origins.

I would say it's dissimilar. Christian orthodoxy doesn't teach child molestation, whereas Islamic orthodoxy teaches both 1. violent jihad, and 2. that Jews, Christians, and Americans are infidels which should be killed wherever they're found. (Suras 2.191; 4.89; 5.33; 8.12; 8.65; 9.5)
So, yes, I would say it's dissimilar.

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28 May 2008, 4:40 pm

Kalister1 wrote:

oscuria wrote:

Oh you libbies are ever the humble group.

I like how you can just label someone so easily. I think most people here are moderate actually.

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28 May 2008, 4:41 pm

Ragtime wrote:

skafather84 wrote:

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...And experience. What the Muslims did to us on September 11th affected us all,

Islam, ergo Muslims, fostered the hate and propaganda that led to 9/11.

you're not familiar with the political term of blowback, are you?

eh, you're a myopic religious slave. i don't expect you to start to care all of a sudden about others.

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28 May 2008, 4:43 pm

skafather84 wrote:

Ragtime wrote:

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...And experience. What the Muslims did to us on September 11th affected us all,

Islam, ergo Muslims, fostered the hate and propaganda that led to 9/11.

you're not familiar with the political term of blowback, are you?

eh, you're a myopic religious slave. i don't expect you to start to care all of a sudden about others.

Ha! Coming from you, a man (well, boy) who wants Israel destroyed!

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28 May 2008, 4:45 pm

Ragtime wrote:

Kalister1 wrote:

oscuria wrote:

Oh you libbies are ever the humble group.

I like how you can just label someone so easily. I think most people here are moderate actually.

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28 May 2008, 5:14 pm

Ragtime wrote:

skafather84 wrote:

Ragtime wrote:

skafather84 wrote:

Ragtime wrote:

...And experience. What the Muslims did to us on September 11th affected us all,

Islam, ergo Muslims, fostered the hate and propaganda that led to 9/11.

you're not familiar with the political term of blowback, are you?

eh, you're a myopic religious slave. i don't expect you to start to care all of a sudden about others.

Ha! Coming from you, a man (well, boy) who wants Israel destroyed!

questioning my manhood. wow.

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28 May 2008, 5:34 pm

skafather84 wrote:

Ragtime wrote:

skafather84 wrote:

Ragtime wrote:

skafather84 wrote:

Ragtime wrote:

...And experience. What the Muslims did to us on September 11th affected us all,

Islam, ergo Muslims, fostered the hate and propaganda that led to 9/11.

you're not familiar with the political term of blowback, are you?

eh, you're a myopic religious slave. i don't expect you to start to care all of a sudden about others.

Ha! Coming from you, a man (well, boy) who wants Israel destroyed!

questioning my manhood. wow.

Most adults would think of a 23-year-old male as a boy. And they're generally referring to his lack of life experience and wisdom, which isn't always fair but your views make me think it is a fair assessment for you. I mean, Islam is not violent!? That's pretty naïve.

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28 May 2008, 5:45 pm

peebo wrote:

in fact, is this not some what exemplary of the idea that was discussed in the 1984 thread regarding language? the word terrorism, over the past several years has now become synonymous with islam. even a name which seems remotely arabic or islamic immediately invites calls of "TERRORIST!! !", regardless of the actions or intentions of the bearer of that name...

I kow-it could be a 90 year old priest who lived in a tiny village who craps in a whole and still be looked on as a terrorist

f**k I hate this world and what those ignorant americans do to it :roll:

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28 May 2008, 6:39 pm

Ragtime wrote:

skafather84 wrote:

Ragtime wrote:

skafather84 wrote:

Ragtime wrote:

skafather84 wrote:

Ragtime wrote:

...And experience. What the Muslims did to us on September 11th affected us all,

Islam, ergo Muslims, fostered the hate and propaganda that led to 9/11.

you're not familiar with the political term of blowback, are you?

eh, you're a myopic religious slave. i don't expect you to start to care all of a sudden about others.

Ha! Coming from you, a man (well, boy) who wants Israel destroyed!

questioning my manhood. wow.

i've had more experiences in my 23 years of life than you have in your 30.

that includes hanging out with my muslim neighbors in new orleans and discussing their religion and the culture and all (they were from pakistan).

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29 May 2008, 1:27 am

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(Barack Hussein Obama .) Even his name sounds like a terrorist name. I don't like the man but I don't like McCain or Hillary much either. But if I had to choose someone it would be Hillary or McCain because honestly Obama scares the crap out of me

racist b***h

I am not racist , I was being prejudice against him but I saw that and I apologized .
But why do you need to attack me like that? it is just not needed.

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29 May 2008, 1:38 am

Ragtime wrote:

Speckles wrote:

I think I might post this in every thread that Ragtime tries to make a mountain out of a molehill with Obama.

Feel free to, but I don't support McCain.
Obama is simply a joke by himself.

So who do you support? Baldwin?

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