Does anyone know of any fictional characters with AS?

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24 Mar 2010, 8:38 pm

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CraftyAJ----the programmer from 24 is Chloe. I never thought about it, but maybe she is. I love that show and love her character!


That's it! I think she's awesome.... and I'm horribly addicted to the show.

what got me thinking was that on the last episode the manager said "we hired you because you don't think like anybody else... so I guess we should give you a chance."

Just her sincerity and non-emotional way of tackling emotions.

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Oh, another thought.... how about Spencer on Criminal Minds?



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24 Mar 2010, 9:05 pm

24 is the one show that my husband and I will sit and watch together.

I always say that Chloe's face reminds me of a cartoon character. I don't know why? I guess she always has that serious look on her face and doesn't smile that much.

I loved it last night when she pulled the gun on the guy because he wouldn't let her do the programming the way she wanted to. That was classic!! !!



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24 Mar 2010, 9:08 pm

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sigh, i guess anyone we want to be is aspergers


ASPERGERS IS DEBILITATING GOD DAMMIT!! !


It depends on who is listed.

Those I listed are disabled in the ways an ASD is defined, whether they care about that or not.

For example, Ronald is in jail due to his obsession with fire (lacks empathy for people; doesn't care if they are caught up in the fire); speaks in third person often, uses a strange dialect compared to his peers, is brutally honest, socially isolated, detailed orientated, and finds a unique way to solve a problem.



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24 Mar 2010, 9:32 pm

What about Ephram or Andy Brown from Everwood?



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24 Mar 2010, 11:26 pm

I count four from "The Office": Michael, Dwight, and Erin, all representing different stereotypes.

Michael is kind of the oblivious aspie who is unaware of how annoying he can be.
Dwight is like the self-aware aspie who has no desire to change himself, believing himself to be superior to everyone, including his own boss at times.
Erin is the self-aware aspie who tries hard not to annoy people, and is eager to please. There's also a side to her that makes characters want to sort of take her under her wing(Kelly, Angela, Andy).
I'm also inclined to believe Andy is one, due to his obsession with acapella singing(and music in general), anger problems, and the fact that he accidentally ended up dating a high school girl even though he's in his 30's.



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25 Mar 2010, 12:48 am

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25 Mar 2010, 9:13 am

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All the Brits posting here will be aware of a sitcom called "The IT Crowd" about three I.T. workers. If you haven't seen it then see if you can view it online (google "The IT Crowd Channel4 4OD" - it may be available to stream from outside the UK).

There are three characters.

One is NT. One is Aspergers. One is well into the Autistic side.

It's very, very funny, but sometimes I think that behind the humour it's like a surreal documentary of my life.


As long as the producers haven't said otherwise they are all NTs, but Moss does act quite aspie-ish. I see me and my friends in those 4 characters, I'm Jen, my closest friend is Moss and my other friend is Roy and my old friend is richmond. And the episode when they have that dinner party is just how I imagine if I invited my friends over for a dinner party. That is why I find that programme so funny.


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25 Mar 2010, 2:40 pm

AnAutisticMind wrote:
sigh, i guess anyone we want to be is aspergers


ASPERGERS IS DEBILITATING GOD DAMMIT!! !


not for me


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25 Mar 2010, 3:05 pm

I take a pretty rigid view on this sort of thing. So people like Christopher John Francis Boone (The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time), Adam Raki (Adam), Donald Morton and Isabelle Sorenson (Mozart and the Whale) are the only people that I would definitively list.

One of the important things, in my view, is that having an Autism Spectrum Disorder is not the same thing as merely presenting Aspie traits. For a condition to qualify as a disorder, it must have a clinically significant impact.

Within that context, a character like Gregory House (House, M.D.) is a borderline case. Clearly there are clinically signficant issues, but the question is open as to what is causing his presentation. I'm not sold on the autism spectrum.

It is possible to list dozens, if not hundreds of characters who present some trait or another. But to qualify as an Aspie, one must be more than merely quirky.


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25 Mar 2010, 3:09 pm

visagrunt wrote:
I take a pretty rigid view on this sort of thing. So people like Christopher John Francis Boone (The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time), Adam Raki (Adam), Donald Morton and Isabelle Sorenson (Mozart and the Whale) are the only people that I would definitively list.

One of the important things, in my view, is that having an Autism Spectrum Disorder is not the same thing as merely presenting Aspie traits. For a condition to qualify as a disorder, it must have a clinically significant impact.

Within that context, a character like Gregory House (House, M.D.) is a borderline case. Clearly there are clinically signficant issues, but the question is open as to what is causing his presentation. I'm not sold on the autism spectrum.

It is possible to list dozens, if not hundreds of characters who present some trait or another. But to qualify as an Aspie, one must be more than merely quirky.



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25 Mar 2010, 3:21 pm

visagrunt wrote:
I take a pretty rigid view on this sort of thing. So people like Christopher John Francis Boone (The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time), Adam Raki (Adam), Donald Morton and Isabelle Sorenson (Mozart and the Whale) are the only people that I would definitively list.

One of the important things, in my view, is that having an Autism Spectrum Disorder is not the same thing as merely presenting Aspie traits. For a condition to qualify as a disorder, it must have a clinically significant impact.

Within that context, a character like Gregory House (House, M.D.) is a borderline case. Clearly there are clinically signficant issues, but the question is open as to what is causing his presentation. I'm not sold on the autism spectrum.

It is possible to list dozens, if not hundreds of characters who present some trait or another. But to qualify as an Aspie, one must be more than merely quirky.


AMEN!! !

This is what I've been saying.


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25 Mar 2010, 5:59 pm

MONKEY wrote:
spacecadetdave wrote:
All the Brits posting here will be aware of a sitcom called "The IT Crowd" about three I.T. workers. If you haven't seen it then see if you can view it online (google "The IT Crowd Channel4 4OD" - it may be available to stream from outside the UK).

There are three characters.

One is NT. One is Aspergers. One is well into the Autistic side.

It's very, very funny, but sometimes I think that behind the humour it's like a surreal documentary of my life.


As long as the producers haven't said otherwise they are all NTs, but Moss does act quite aspie-ish. I see me and my friends in those 4 characters, I'm Jen, my closest friend is Moss and my other friend is Roy and my old friend is richmond. And the episode when they have that dinner party is just how I imagine if I invited my friends over for a dinner party. That is why I find that programme so funny.


I still can;t watch it without thinking that the writer has a webcam in my office.



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25 Mar 2010, 7:09 pm

Personally, I think Moss is the aspie, while Roy has ADHD. Jen is NT, but rather neurotic in general.
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26 Mar 2010, 1:30 pm

I'm reading a book called The Family Man by Elinor Lipman, and a character is described as "Socially awkward--even Aspergian." It's a minor character and I'm not sure if she really intended him to have Aspergers or not.


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26 Mar 2010, 2:05 pm

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Personally, I think Moss is the aspie, while Roy has ADHD. Jen is NT, but rather neurotic in general.


Bingo. Can you psychoanalyse the characters from Black Books and Father Ted now please :-)


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27 Mar 2010, 3:32 am

I was thinking about this a few days ago actually. In my opinion I think there are three categories here - characters that have AS, characters that we might be able to read as having AS and characters that may be "representative" of AS.

First group would be characters that have AS written a part of their background/personality/whatever. Possible subcategory would be a character described as having AS, but the writer did not do the research, messes up the characterisation and as such the character doesn't have AS at all.

Second would be ones that act in ways asscociated with AS, but this might not be an intentional part of their character (ie: the writer wanted a "quirky" and/or "socially awkward" and the way the character was written coincides with AS). This would make up the majority of the list I suspect.

Third would be characters that probably don't have AS, but may have features that we relate to AS (intentionally or otherwise). This one is harder to explain, so I'll use examples (from Star Trek, 'cause I've seen these characters come up in this sort of discussion once before): Vulcans have difficulty making small talk with other races, difficulty picking up or predicting the emotions of others, can be very blunt in what they say etc - Data (from Star Trek: TNG) tends not to pick up social cues and colloquialisms, difficulty with empathy and picking up the emotions of others, has a hard time noticing when someone isn't interested in what he's saying or when he's giving too much detail in response to a question, etc. Difference between this and the other categories - the Vulcan behaviours were devised as a cultural feature, and Data's were intended as the features of a android lacking in "human emotions" attempting to fit in with a mostly human crew. In other words - these characters are not human and whilst they have AS like features to their personalities, they definitely do not have these features due to any disorder.

I hope that makes sense :? Your thoughts on this idea? Am I just overanalyzing?