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You mean a white-exclusion zone, maybe? Hmmm...
No, I mean a ban on rallies. This prevented an invasion by the Nazi BNP and the inevitable counter-demonstrations, disorder, potential for riots etc. That is what sparked the Bradford riots of 2001; outside troublemakers stirring people up.
This might be a better explanation: http://www.keighleynews.co.uk/bradford_ ... OPIN0.html
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How about we deport the racists, Ascan. Now, that is a good idea. Just think - no more race tension if we kick Nick Griffin and associated thugs out the country.
I think a few months in Sudan might open their minds to the horrors these people are fleeing, and they might learn to have a bit more consideration for them.
Ah, I see.
Well, I can see how that might be justified, but I'm also aware how all sides can twist things to suit their own agenda. But you're on the ground, as it were, so I guess you should know.
Would you agree, though, that radical Islam is a problem? Can you see how, given a change in economic fortunes, we could end up with problems like in France? Do you not think that the growth of our Muslim population threatens our National Security, when their kin in their home countries interpret that religion in a way that calls for our destruction? Doesn't the fact that those suicide bombers were home-grown, as it were, point to a problem?
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I do agree that radical Islam is a problem, as I consider militant Christianity to be a problem. See my comment regarding the 6% who supported the bombers. Whatever the solution, I doubt we'll find it without engaging with the Muslim community here.
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That may be true. Unfortunately, it only has to not work briefly to cause major problems. To be honest, I'm rather sceptical, too, when people say "multi-culturalism is working at...". Often, problems are hidden, for fear of stirring up more.
But militant Christianity is not a problem in this country. Even in the States, it's relatively tame compared with even some of the more moderate Islamic stuff.
and there wasn't a huge amount of cultural mixing, either - people just respected each other
Well, we all have different experiences. Nearly all the English people I know think things have gone too far.
Yes, militant Christianity is far more of a problem. Look at the US. They just walk into other people's countries as and when they feel.
Death Toll by militant Christianity in past 2 years: 100,000 +
Death Toll by capitalism: 3 per second
Death Toll by militant Islam in past 2 years: 3,000 - 4,000
Look at the figures, Ascan.
Indeed. What's happening in France is a portent of the misery that will engulf the UK, soon. You see, currently we're enjoy an economic boom that has lasted for over a decade; there's full employment (apart from the unemployable),and things are about as good as they get. In respect of the incumbent government, the economic situation is generally fortuitous. However, their current policies are tipping the balance of fate towards inevitable doom, which is exacerbated by global economic pressures.
If you live in a city here you want to get out fast: particularly "ethnically diverse" ones. Economic woes breed discontent, and makes recruiting young Muslims to the cause of Jihad, so much easier! I can remember riots in the under-class areas of the city where I lived a number of years ago. The thought of being caught up in that frightens me, particularly as these days many of the rioters will be armed. The police will be their usual ineffectual selves, and the innocents caught up in it will be left to their fate. Those that do try to escape will probably get their skulls cracked open by a police force that serves a corrupt Labour government, rather than the people.
That says alot about what happened to liberty over there. The government disarmed the public by using Dunblaine as an excuse, started telling you what you can and can't say, allowed search and seizure, non citizens can be held up to two months without charges (it's 10 days for non citizens and 2 for citizens in the US), and now you are left at the mercy of the police, and cannot be certain the police will be there for you in an emergency unless it happens to be at the leadership's convenience. The establishment can probably rig elections by now, and any attempt to force them out of power will likely end up like the June 1953 Berlin Uprisings.
http://www.cia.gov/csi/books/17240/art-5.html
I'd reccomend aquiring a Walther P99 9mm pistol or a Mauser M2 .45ACP (preferable), and a Russian Baikal or Italian Benelli pump or semiauto shotgun. It doesn't really matter how you get it, ammo, and cleaning supplies since this would all be stashed away for a survivalist situation. Mabe try to get some range time in the US or another gun friendly country using rented guns of identical or similar models.
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You know what the problem really is?! Its this group or that group trying to be the #1 group on the block. And the problem is that you cant have but 1 group in that slot. Then people get all afraid of "hurting feelings" and wont say anything to anyone when their own rights are being eliminated. This goes for race, religion, nationiality, gender, etc.
humans are judgemental creatures by nature, and the carosmatic leaders that round up these zelots use that aginst what ever other group they dont like. Its a dreadful thing really. It can be controled with self-control I think. I mean the majority of people out there dont HAVE to burn their own belongings in protest. That, my friends, is a CHOICE. Being born into a poverty stricken, or viloent area may not be their choice, but acting out as they are doing in Paris now, and others i nthe past have done IS.
When people realise that we all bleed the same no matter how we worship or what color we are, then we will achieve real peace.
But that isnt going to happen anytime soon, with the bad guys out there spreading hate and discontent.
the real pitty is that the next generation and the ones after that are the ones that will pay the price.
And you all think whats goin on in Paris is bad?! Wait till it happens on a large scale in the US. When its not just LA or New Orleans. But when its all over the place. WE dont have enough police officers to quell it quickly. And ya'll, its not a matter of IF its a matter of WHEN. We train for that stuff at work. Even Wal-Mart has a plan for "Civil unrest".
Yeah! Anyone who does not identify with our socialist hive-mind and has a different ideology is an evil, intolerant fascist. Let's overlook their character and deport them to Sudan, because they've committed thought-crimes. Let's penalize those with more assets than us, even if they were working-class themselves a generation ago. Let's promote minority special interest racist groups and if any of those white devils protest we'll ruin their lives and brand them with a swastika on their foreheads. Because whiteness is evil and racist.... So be non-racist like me and Robert, and hate white people. This white-male patriarchal society has to go, we need to have a revolution and bring back Stalinist Russia. Hey, millions of people dies, but it was in the name of equality, and they were being non-racist when they executed the people. Serves those Kulaks right for being so over-productive.
Sarcasm aside, I am neutral on David Duke. He is not doing anything that isn't being done 10 times worse by spokespeople for other groups. As long as there are groups that are openly racist against another group, there is nothing offensive about members of that group biting back.
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I am suggesting that we deport racists only because that is what they propose to do with other innocent members of our community that have fled persecuation from the given country. Racists can go there and learn what it is really like before sending countless thousands back to their doom just because of their skin colour.
And then the people in the Sudan who don't like the newly arrived BNP boys, they should be deported as well for intolerance then?....
You can't punish somebody for their beliefs.... Now skinhead thugs who go around persecuting innocent minorites or immigrants are another story.... Anyone who preys on the innocent has voluntarily withdrawn themself from society and it should be open season on them.
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You can't punish somebody for their beliefs.... Now skinhead thugs who go around persecuting innocent minorites or immigrants are another story.... Anyone who preys on the innocent has voluntarily withdrawn themself from society and it should be open season on them.
The skinheads your talking about are nothing more than shills for the BNP, as well as the NF. Most of the BNP people were the skinheads that went around bullying the innocent minority people back in the 60's 70's and 80's.
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Tis true... I was going to say that but Fogman beat me to it.
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