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06 Aug 2008, 8:48 am

Ahh... I'll play. :)

FDR - His crimes have already been hashed out to minutia here. Although I would point specifically to the internment of thousands of Japanese immigrants and American citizens of Japanese descent specifically.

Richard Nixon, mostly for his "enemy list", and the illegal methods he used to target the media outlets on that list.



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06 Aug 2008, 8:59 am

burnse22 wrote:
Orwell wrote:
3. FDR, Wilson, and Truman (but Mr. T failed at it)


Mr. T was President? How'd I miss that!?

MR T, meaning Truman. Sorry about that. There was a famous Supreme Court Case we studied in AP Gov where Truman tried to take over the nation's steel mills to avoid a strike and he was told he couldn't do that in peacetime.


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07 Aug 2008, 2:38 pm

burnse22 wrote:
In the 21st century there has been one President who: embroiled the U.S.A into two military quagmires of his own making; ruined the international reputation of his country; created a extremely partisan domestic political situation, resulting in a an atmosphere of fear and a crippled congress and senate; seriously undermined civil liberties; set back scientific progress; routinely lied (even in the face of all evidence against him); employed ignorant condescending lying control freaks; proved to be useless in the face of any emergency (more than once); publically endorsed torture; led the economy into the worst crisis since the Great Depression (not that I'm saying he caused it, he just led the way); worked to destroy the boundary between Church and State; completely ignored the threat of global warming and generally behaved in exactly the opposite way that a statesman should


In the 21st century there was only one President, period... unless you count the 20 days in 2001 that Clinton was still technically in office



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07 Aug 2008, 2:56 pm

Sounds like FDR and Bush



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07 Aug 2008, 3:38 pm

michel wrote:
Sounds like FDR and Bush


How many press outlets has Bush had the government shut down? Which ones? When? Please name these for us.
Where are the prisons or camps holding hundreds or thousands of US citizens who opponents to the Iraq war? Please point out their locations.
What industries has Bush dictated the output for? When was the executive order signed? What are the products he is forcing to be made?

I await your answers.