McCain Campaign: Palin's 17-Year-Old Daughter Is Pregnant

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One of the main conflicts pro-lifers have is accepting teen pregnancy, because it is in part the moralistic condemnation of teenagers getting pregnant that makes them seek out abortions.

I will say though, that in my experience with pro-life activists (I am not one but growing up, my best friend came from a pro-life activist family) is that they are very kind and non-judgmental to teenage girls who are pregnant-- because they know they HAVE to be lest they scare or shame her into an abortion.

My thoughts exactly. This is why I classify public figures along with all the other "random people I don't know". I'm in no better position to make assumptions about a public figure than I am about some neighbor in the building across the street who I've never spoken to.

That is unless I happen to be personally acquainted with the public figure, in which case they're grouped with the other "random people I do know".

Society needs to get back to the traditional family values.

Society is redefining, "family", "tradition", and "values".

Yes, I think that's true, however, being horny might have something to do with it? I mean, very often teenagers hardly think of the consequences of their actions, whatever they do. Peer pressure, might be one reason.

My husband was born a full week after his mother's water broke. It was just a shrug in those days. Baby might come, baby might not.

Water break has not always meant "deliver NOW." I would assume she researched this issue before making a final decision. Shoot, my doctor and I talked about months before I was due. When to worry, when not to.

I think the above is really the point: the "do what I say, not what I do" attitude that seems to eminating from the Republican party as a whole. The preaching, the telling us it's liberal attitudes that are messing everything up, when the truth is that Republican families make all the same mistakes liberal ones do. So do they hold the right to preach about it, that they hold the only moral compass? Many of us would say no. If they could just admit that, they wouldn't get railed for it. But they don't admit it. Since they don't, every little imperfection gets held up. Not so much to say, "how horrible," but to say, "come on, admit you guys don't have all the answers, either."

On a personal level, woman to woman, I would not hold a daughter's actions against a mother, and I think the statement the Palin's issued was well done. And I am proud that the daughter will marry and raise the child, instead of choosing an abortion (although I would also be proud if she gave the baby for adoption).

But I was still stunned to see a Republican candidate with such a political ball and chain. And it IS a political ball and chain, because we're talking about the "family values" party.

Ask your doctor what you're supposed to do when your water breaks when:
1. You are 44 years old.
2. Your baby is 1 month premature.
3. Your baby has Down's Syndrome.
4. It's your 5th child.

If you doctor says anything but "Come in to get checked" I would seriously question your doctor's judgement.

If your doctor says "Hey, just get on a plane for 8 hours and deliver at any old hospital, certainly not one with an NICU unit in it" then your doctor might just be as stupid or reckless as Sarah Palin.

Obama said that this isn't an issue because it's not relevant, and that he thinks that a candidate's children shouldn't be attacked.

thank you, Apatura,
I didn't know that had changed, of course, my own experience was long before abortion was legal. Back in the wire hanger days. I didn't know anyone with a wire hanger, nor did I know about it. . I mostly just ran down the street and slammed into the railing. .that was preferable to being around my parents.

Merle

How do you know that that isn't exactly what happened? I can think of a very good reason she would choose to fly after her water broke, and that would be to go see the one doctor she knew and trusted, and to be near her loved ones.

This "stupid and reckless woman," as you describe her, managed to run a winning campaign to become Governor of a US State, while still performing the duties of a mother of 4 children.

What have you done in your lifetime that compares with that? What qualifies you to question her judgement?

jrknothead wrote:

Finding a doctor you know and trust is for ordinary people like you and me. When you are the governor of a state and loaded the doctors you know and trust come to you, you don’t go to them. In fact they come running.



As an Aspie you should know as well as I do that being able to sell yourself has NOTHING to do with intelligence. Have you forgotten those airhead jocks and cheerleaders in your school?



I don’t know about Mage but I am a successful self-employed business owner. Albeit a small business but I did it with a handicap. The only handicap Palin seems to have is being an airhead.

Looking at her biography, I can see that she is the daughter of a high school science teacher and a school administrator... She earned her BS at the University of Idaho, and her children are homeschooled. Her husband is a commercial fisherman.

There's nothing there to suggest she's 'loaded', and I see no reason to refer to her as an 'airhead'...

What are you basing this assessment upon?

actually, if you had the intelligence and nature of someone with Down's Syndrome, you likely you would be happy with the fact you exist.

Bush graduated from Yale; what does that prove? When you have connections and money you can get a BS with BS. As for Palin here's her 2007 financial disclosure statement:

http://projects.publicintegrity.org/doc ... 000068.pdf

More than enough to get a doctor to come running when you have to "protect human life from conception"

University of Idaho is not a school that would come to mind when one mentions wealthy people...

As for the financial disclosure statement, it lists some shares in an IRA account (inaccessible until the owner reaches the age of 55), a cash balance of zero, and a home mortgage and credit card accounts.

These are not wealthy people.

I have to wonder, do you scrutinize the private affairs of a candidate to this degree when their political views are in tune with your own?

Rarely does one find a candidate with a record as clean as this one.

Besides, all of your points are moot. The child did not suffer due to her actions, so why condemn her for them?

It seems that you are not only holding her responsible for her own actions, but for the actions and statements of everyone who shares a party affiliation with her.

Do all of your decisions and actions reflect the values espoused by your candidates' political party? Do you think you should be held accountable when they don't?

If not, then why should she?