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14 Sep 2008, 2:11 pm

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I'm actually very shocked, I mean, wow....how could this happen??? How did they learn this stuff? :(


Like I said, pop and PC culture to excess.
Nobody steps in when children are enacting whatever ideas they have from being exposed to sexually based media, etc.; it's "empowering", they're "expressing" themselves... They are also kids, and somebodies got to start being less inattentive about this sort of thing.


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14 Sep 2008, 3:25 pm

It is the only game in town.

We used to just keep them in the dark about sex. Girls went from playing with dolls with a bow in their hair, to getting married.

As expressed by popular culture the goals of life are sex first, then money and power, so your enemies will have accidents.

If you have sex, you can get money and power, if you have money, you can get sex.

They have no money, which keeps them out of bars and drug deals, and that leaves?

I would blame adults, on two points, having a culture where sex and money are everything, and pushing the children beyond their age in clothing, and expected behavior.

Wanting their children to be popular, moms are dressing them years before their age, and dating is arranged at eight. Girls who do not get asked for a second date are told they have to keep a boys attention if they want to be popular.

$50 to get her hair done, over $100 for the outfit, full makeup, and a message that she had better perform. To continue getting the good stuff, she has to be good stuff.

Girls are expected to remain virgins, but blowjobs, then anal sex, dont count. Bill Clinton, "I did not have sex with that woman."

From a girls point of view, she is just doing what her mother strongly implied. Be popular.

Moms also buy the cutest little baby doll sleepers for them to spend all night with the girl friend. Be popular dear so you will be invited to lots of places to be popular.

Children do as they are told, and girl friend sex is mutual between equals, and not like putting out for boys, which is one sided. Being popular finally pays off, they are getting done, and have a support network.

Everyone knows what the boys want, and it is obvious the adults are just waiting to pounce.

Mom dresses them as 11 going on 21, grown men hit on them, offer them money, the whole world is crazy, except the girl friends. They are all in it together with no other protection.

So as a public defense, they dress and act like, "I know the game, and you can't afford it."

The girl could have a new car in a week, but can't get a license for five years.

Her family, the families of her friends, all sexualize her. Her mother buys her the smallist bikini she can find. She gets told she is hot, and can only say, "Sir, I am nine, and a friend of your daughter."

After the girls are ready for bed, they are called down for Ice cream and cookies, her in a strange house with fathers, older brothers, in the smallest and most reveling see through sleepwear her mother could find, a pre pubescent lingerie model doing her runway walk. Be popular.

It used to be rare, and called Cheerleader Mom Syndrome. A Mom reliving her highschool days through her daughter.

Post Barbi it is common, starts early, and has few limits.

Western culture has some quirks, insane about kiddie porn, sex with minors, and offended that anyone would see thier daughter who looks like a hooker, dresses like a hooker, and acts like a hooker, as anything but an innocent child.

The Wall Street Journal did an article on the girls of Japan. There it is considered wise for girls to have older male friends, who give them money. A girl will need friends through life. The college girls were complaining the high school girls were taking their best customers, and when interviewed, the high school girls said the middle school girls were taking the best.

They cited an unfair business advantage, in the middle school school uniforms, like Kagomi wears on Innyasu. The middle school girls cited a free market, supply and demand, and government support in the form of a tax exemption with no reporting required for their activities.

These were all upper class girls, they were acting from free will, and a tradition of gaining the support of higher ups in the social world.

In Japan a person is free to be sexual as they chose. Sex choices are about as personal as it gets, and their system seems to work.



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14 Sep 2008, 10:25 pm

Haven't any of you heard of Child Sexuality? It's more common than you think

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_sexuality

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In a study of 796 undergraduates, 15% of females and 10% of males reported some form of sexual experience involving a sibling; most of these fell short of actual intercourse. Approximately one quarter of these experiences were described as abusive or exploitive. The effect of non-exploitive sibling sex play is unclear, with some studies suggesting long term effects, both positive and negative, and others finding no significant effects.[24][25]


Alfred Kinsey and other people did studies on this in the 1950s showing how full of BS the mainstream social norms were and helped to cap their asses.

Just because Society deems it 'wrong' and/or sweeps it under the ground doesn't make it not happen.


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I would blame adults, on two points, having a culture where sex and money are everything, and pushing the children beyond their age in clothing, and expected behavior.


can you explain how the children were 'pushed' beyond their age via culture and expected bahavior?

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Wanting their children to be popular, moms are dressing them years before their age, and dating is arranged at eight. Girls who do not get asked for a second date are told they have to keep a boys attention if they want to be popular.


wait....wha? People have done that in the past I'm sure, arranged marriages, and all sorts of things like that happened in the 1950s I'm sure. Really back in the 1900s and 1800s

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Mom dresses them as 11 going on 21, grown men hit on them, offer them money,


I wish..

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Western culture has some quirks, insane about kiddie porn, sex with minors, and offended that anyone would see thier daughter who looks like a hooker, dresses like a hooker, and acts like a hooker, as anything but an innocent child.


IIRC that's real epidermic in the US and UK. continental europe is more relaxed on that (compared to the US/UK). for example, there's a bunch of underground (and above ground) pedo organizations in the Netherlands and Germany, and large numbers of Tor nodes there.

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They cited an unfair business advantage, in the middle school school uniforms, like Kagomi wears on Innyasu.


lol, you cited Inyusha!

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In Japan a person is free to be sexual as they chose. Sex choices are about as personal as it gets, and their system seems to work.


selling high school girl undergarments in vending machines! Also, the Age of Consent there is 13.


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14 Sep 2008, 10:44 pm

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... and SASR in first? That's what Black Ops Forces would like you to believe.


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14 Sep 2008, 11:06 pm

Euurgh... WTF!?!?!?



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14 Sep 2008, 11:09 pm

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Euurgh... WTF!?!?!?

Nothing more to see ... returning you to the thread in 5 ... 4 ... 3 ... 2 ... 1 ...


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15 Sep 2008, 1:12 am

Warsie wrote:
Haven't any of you heard of Child Sexuality? It's more common than you think

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_sexuality

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In a study of 796 undergraduates, 15% of females and 10% of males reported some form of sexual experience involving a sibling; most of these fell short of actual intercourse. Approximately one quarter of these experiences were described as abusive or exploitive. The effect of non-exploitive sibling sex play is unclear, with some studies suggesting long term effects, both positive and negative, and others finding no significant effects.[24][25]


Alfred Kinsey and other people did studies on this in the 1950s showing how full of BS the mainstream social norms were and helped to cap their asses.

Just because Society deems it 'wrong' and/or sweeps it under the ground doesn't make it not happen.


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I would blame adults, on two points, having a culture where sex and money are everything, and pushing the children beyond their age in clothing, and expected behavior.


can you explain how the children were 'pushed' beyond their age via culture and expected bahavior?

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Wanting their children to be popular, moms are dressing them years before their age, and dating is arranged at eight. Girls who do not get asked for a second date are told they have to keep a boys attention if they want to be popular.


wait....wha? People have done that in the past I'm sure, arranged marriages, and all sorts of things like that happened in the 1950s I'm sure. Really back in the 1900s and 1800s

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Mom dresses them as 11 going on 21, grown men hit on them, offer them money,


I wish..

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Western culture has some quirks, insane about kiddie porn, sex with minors, and offended that anyone would see thier daughter who looks like a hooker, dresses like a hooker, and acts like a hooker, as anything but an innocent child.


IIRC that's real epidermic in the US and UK. continental europe is more relaxed on that (compared to the US/UK). for example, there's a bunch of underground (and above ground) pedo organizations in the Netherlands and Germany, and large numbers of Tor nodes there.

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They cited an unfair business advantage, in the middle school school uniforms, like Kagomi wears on Innyasu.


lol, you cited Inyusha!

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In Japan a person is free to be sexual as they chose. Sex choices are about as personal as it gets, and their system seems to work.


selling high school girl undergarments in vending machines! Also, the Age of Consent there is 13.


You would touch on this subject. I'm onto you Warsie. :lol:


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15 Sep 2008, 1:33 am

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You would touch on this subject.


'cause I'm 1337 like that Image

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I'm onto you Warsie. :lol:


gonna sic the PARTYVAN on me? For what? Being a HMFIC n***a Layin' the Rules down and Representin' Da South Side of Chi-Town! YEAAAAHHHAAAGGGGHHHHH!! !! !! !


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15 Sep 2008, 6:14 am

I wonder how many Star Wars fans are black and gangsta and represent Chi-town?



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15 Sep 2008, 10:29 am

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Ishmael wrote:
Popular culture gone haywire. Had these children been post-pubescent, that'd be another thing, simple biology.
But, for pre-pubescent children to be engaging in such behaviour brings real concerns over how they develop these ideas

Let's burn hi five okay? Or how about clothing lines releasing "sexy" childrens clothing to "empower" them, or the companies manufacturing bras for six year olds?

What is wrong with people?


I regularly see six and seven year old girls walking around town in tight sweatpants with slogans like 'sexy' and 'porn star' written across their ass... twelve and thirteen year olds regularly engage in sexual activity, stuff that was considered extreme when I reached adulthood, like anal sex and group sex, and i'm told that the blowjob has replaced the first kiss as the preferred courtship ritual... all the girls are openly bisexual...

I've discussed this with a few parents of teenagers and twenty-somethings, and the general consensus is that hormones in the meat cause the children to develop sooner, while internet porn introduces them to all manner of sexual deviance... children are excellent mimics, and will copy virtually any behavior they are exposed to...


yes, that is exactly it.. this is also part of the agenda to dumb down children by the government.. and it works very very well.. with nothing but sex on their minds, they will be far too stupid to think of anything else.. and i mean since we all know that this is a real issue, if the government really cared about it im sure they would put the correct actions in pursuit, but they act like it's none of their business, when apparently peace demonstrations, and videogame and movie censorships ARE..


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15 Sep 2008, 11:02 am

Ford damn it, Huxley was right again.


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15 Sep 2008, 2:00 pm

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I wonder how many Star Wars fans are black and gangsta and represent Chi-town?


I dunno lolz. some guys called me white BECAUSE I like Star Wars


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15 Sep 2008, 3:51 pm

ShadesOfMe wrote:
I'm actually very shocked, I mean, wow....how could this happen??? How did they learn this stuff? :(

Hmmm, kids learn all kind of stuff from School.


Homeschool your children!! !!


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15 Sep 2008, 5:08 pm

Warsie wrote:
MissConstrue wrote:
You would touch on this subject.


'cause I'm 1337 like that Image

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I'm onto you Warsie. :lol:


gonna sic the PARTYVAN on me? For what? Being a HMFIC n***a Layin' the Rules down and Representin' Da South Side of Chi-Town! YEAAAAHHHAAAGGGGHHHHH!! !! !! !


What's HMFIC? :?


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15 Sep 2008, 5:26 pm

he's using teenage innuendo's
get the tear gas



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15 Sep 2008, 5:35 pm

:cry:


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