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02 Dec 2008, 12:58 pm

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Why surprised?

Actually, Nazism and Zionism have a lot in common.


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Any political regime that mixes itself with religion is dangerous. :roll:


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02 Dec 2008, 1:10 pm

sartresue wrote:
LePetitPrince wrote:
Why surprised?

Actually, Nazism and Zionism have a lot in common.


Religion and mental illness topic

Any political regime that mixes itself with religion is dangerous. :roll:


Some political regimes don't need religion to be dangerous.



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02 Dec 2008, 1:46 pm

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Khan Sama, your pro-Palestine, pro-Muslim bias is really evident. But that's not to deny all the suffering people you've mentioned. You have an obvious bias, is all I'm saying. How would an Israeli describe everything you've just talked about? Somewhat differently, I would think.

I may not be from that area, but I'm not stupid.


And you are a pro-bible so you lean more to the "torah's people" side which are the Jews, am I right?

I am from that area and I am not stupid.



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02 Dec 2008, 1:55 pm

I am Christian and "pro-bible" but maybe not in the way you mean it.



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02 Dec 2008, 2:07 pm

slowmutant wrote:
LePetitPrince wrote:
Why surprised?

Actually, Nazism and Zionism have a lot in common.


Such as? Are they equal-yet-opposing idealogies?


Both Nazi Germany and Zionist Israel are based on a purity of race.

Just Nazism was a German national socialism , Zionism is a Jewish national socialism.

Nazis believe that Germans are the "Master Race" while Zionists believe in the "Chosen People"

The Zionists have declared "Jews" a distinct ethnicity, a distinct race, superior to others, the Chosen People of God and are trying to make the "Jews" and Israel into an ethnically and religiously homogenized homeland by driving the Palestinians, who were also the original inhabitants, out.

Both Nazis and Jews sought to create a larger socialist state where their are "special ethnic rights" for the favored people.

Both societies were purely military societies where every citizen is a trained soldier and can be called to arm anytime.


Both dreamed to make an 'empire' , the Nazis attempted to create the Third Reich in while Europe while Zionists sill dream about Greater Israel which extends from from the Nile of Egypt passing by the Euphrates in Iraq , not to forget the part that included about 3/4 of Lebanon.

Both Nazism and Zionism chose simplistic, ancient religious symbol to rally the race and carry out a policy of ethnic conquest and ethnic cleansing.


“We should get rid of the ones who are not Israeli citizens the same way you get rid of lice. We have to stop this cancer from spreading within us.” Rehavam Zeevi, member of the powerful Security Cabinet and Israel’s Minister of Tourism


Yet you are surprised why there are neo-nazi in Zionist Israel? It's simple ...they are 2 parts from the same s**t.



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02 Dec 2008, 2:49 pm

LePetitPrince wrote:
slowmutant wrote:
LePetitPrince wrote:
Why surprised?

Actually, Nazism and Zionism have a lot in common.


Such as? Are they equal-yet-opposing idealogies?


Both Nazi Germany and Zionist Israel are based on a purity of race.

Just Nazism was a German national socialism , Zionism is a Jewish national socialism.

Nazis believe that Germans are the "Master Race" while Zionists believe in the "Chosen People"

The Zionists have declared "Jews" a distinct ethnicity, a distinct race, superior to others, the Chosen People of God and are trying to make the "Jews" and Israel into an ethnically and religiously homogenized homeland by driving the Palestinians, who were also the original inhabitants, out.

Both Nazis and Jews sought to create a larger socialist state where their are "special ethnic rights" for the favored people.

Both societies were purely military societies where every citizen is a trained soldier and can be called to arm anytime.


Both dreamed to make an 'empire' , the Nazis attempted to create the Third Reich in while Europe while Zionists sill dream about Greater Israel which extends from from the Nile of Egypt passing by the Euphrates in Iraq , not to forget the part that included about 3/4 of Lebanon.

Both Nazism and Zionism chose simplistic, ancient religious symbol to rally the race and carry out a policy of ethnic conquest and ethnic cleansing.


“We should get rid of the ones who are not Israeli citizens the same way you get rid of lice. We have to stop this cancer from spreading within us.” Rehavam Zeevi, member of the powerful Security Cabinet and Israel’s Minister of Tourism


Yet you are surprised why there are neo-nazi in Zionist Israel? It's simple ...they are 2 parts from the same sh**.


They're both extremists. That's never a good thing.


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02 Dec 2008, 2:51 pm

You guys need to smoke more hookah. Or import some alcohol into your region. If ever there was a race of people who needed to mellow out, it's the Arabs & Jews.

I'm serious.



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02 Dec 2008, 4:10 pm

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You guys need to smoke more hookah. Or import some alcohol into your region. If ever there was a race of people who needed to mellow out, it's the Arabs & Jews.

I'm serious.


A bit of puff perhaps, but I cant think of anything more likely to end in bloodshed than drunk Muslims and pissed Zionists.


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02 Dec 2008, 6:58 pm

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You guys need to smoke more hookah. Or import some alcohol into your region. If ever there was a race of people who needed to mellow out, it's the Arabs & Jews.

I'm serious.


A bit of puff perhaps, but I cant think of anything more likely to end in bloodshed than drunk Muslims and pissed Zionists.


well just substitute drunk with stoned (on pot) :D


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02 Dec 2008, 7:05 pm

slowmutant wrote:
Khan Sama, your pro-Palestine, pro-Muslim bias is really evident. But that's not to deny all the suffering people you've mentioned. You have an obvious bias, is all I'm saying. How would an Israeli describe everything you've just talked about? Somewhat differently, I would think.

I may not be from that area, but I'm not stupid.


Nope. I know a lot of Jews, all but one are Israelis. They are very nice people. I respect them and their country. What I've typed out is no different than any of their views. I recall asking one of them: If you're so sick of the bloodshed, why not vote for a different party, he replied that they did do so. When Ariel Sharon asserted that we wanted to end the occupation of the west bank, the Israelis voted for his new party Kadima with an overwhelming majority. The end result was that Sharon collapsed, was put on life support, and Olmert invaded Lebanon. Quite the opposite of what they were seeking. Who can they really vote for? The Green party? That's a laugh.

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sartresue wrote:
LePetitPrince wrote:
Why surprised?

Actually, Nazism and Zionism have a lot in common.


Religion and mental illness topic

Any political regime that mixes itself with religion is dangerous. :roll:


Some political regimes don't need religion to be dangerous.


Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

slowmutant wrote:
You guys need to smoke more hookah. Or import some alcohol into your region. If ever there was a race of people who needed to mellow out, it's the Arabs & Jews.

I'm serious.


Hash is quite popular in the middle east (excluding the Gulf countries), especially Egypt. As far as I can recall, the only Muslim countries I know of that ban alcohol are Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, and probably Yemen. Nearly every Israeli I've met is a stoner. :lol:

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02 Dec 2008, 7:49 pm

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This is an innaccurate term. Neo-Nazis do not fear the people they beat up and terrorize. No, certainly not. If Neo-Nazis were afraid of Jewish people, they'd leave them the hell alone, don't you think?


Actually, it is a very accurate term. I was raised jewish so i should know. The term "anti-semite" is the real inaccurate term since most jews are ashkenazic, meaning they are european jews who's european ancestors converted to judaism. Semites are middle eastern peoples. Sefardic jews may well be semites but that is up for debate. "judeophobe" is accurate because when someone is prejudiced against a group, it is actually because of irrational fear. People fear difference. When they meet someone different it makes them uneasy and they fight them. The nazis certainly were SCARED TO DEATH of jews and feared jews were controlling everything and deluting the aryan race. If you think "judeophobe" is a wrong term then please suggest a more accurate one.


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02 Dec 2008, 7:52 pm

LePetitPrince wrote:
Why surprised?

Actually, Nazism and Zionism have a lot in common.


I was raised jewish though i don't agree with the religion at all. I also do not agree with zionism at all. I think it is wrong that the israeli army kills palestinians. However, Nazis openly are totally racist. Zionists (though many may be racist) just stupidly think the land of israel is theirs and think the palestinians are preventing them from it. Again, I don't agree with zionists (and certainly don't agree with the muslim extremists).


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02 Dec 2008, 7:56 pm

Actually, neither the israelis or palestinians are from that land. Most of the israelis are from europe or others middle eastern countries and most of the palestinians are from jordan and syria. They are both bitching and killing over a land that doesn't belong to either of them. Just give it back to the british.


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02 Dec 2008, 8:27 pm

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Actually, neither the israelis or palestinians are from that land. Most of the israelis are from europe or others middle eastern countries and most of the palestinians are from jordan and syria. They are both bitching and killing over a land that doesn't belong to either of them. Just give it back to the british.


We dont need it. We already get the best export.. oranges!


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02 Dec 2008, 9:05 pm

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history_of_psychiatry wrote:
Actually, neither the israelis or palestinians are from that land. Most of the israelis are from europe or others middle eastern countries and most of the palestinians are from jordan and syria. They are both bitching and killing over a land that doesn't belong to either of them. Just give it back to the british.


We dont need it. We already get the best export.. oranges!



I live in central florida where tasty ass oranges are plentiful. Why do we need israel's oranges?


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02 Dec 2008, 9:44 pm

history_of_psychiatry wrote:
Actually, neither the israelis or palestinians are from that land. Most of the israelis are from europe or others middle eastern countries and most of the palestinians are from jordan and syria. They are both bitching and killing over a land that doesn't belong to either of them. Just give it back to the british.


The British were governing the area known as Palestine a a specific time period as per the mandate of the League of Nations. It was a part of the Ottoman province of Syria for centuries, prior to that. Never did the British claim sovereignty over that territory, similar to how the French never claimed sovereignty over Syria. The Palestinians, Lebanese, and Jordans are Levantine Arabs, ie, they speak the Levant dialect of Arabic. They have all lived in these areas for over a millennium.

The first evidence of human remains in the geographical area known as Palestine dates to over 500,000 years ago. The first dominant culture in the area was the Natufian culture (12800–10300 BCE), which was Mesolithic. Are there any Natufians claiming what is theirs? :P

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