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18 Dec 2009, 7:18 am

I don't know why people obsess about diagnosing celebrities and public figures.

Bill gates may be on the spectrum but there isn't any cause for a clinical diagnosis. It isn’t really a yes/no thing anyway.



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18 Dec 2009, 11:38 am

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Just wondering who are these famous, celebrity people with AS? Is it true Bill Gates has AS, Abraham Lincoln, Emily Dickinson or are these just educated guestimates???


I'll give you a hint: Abraham Lincoln and Emily Dickinson died before Hans Asperger was alive.

So, before Hans Asperger did his research, nobody had Asperger's Syndrome?

Does that mean that before Martinus Beijerinck's work in 1898, there were no viruses? Or that until the advent of Niels Bohr, electrons didn't orbit nuclei in atoms?

That's as absurd as claiming that I can't have AS because I was born in 1963, and the diagnosis didn't make it into the DSM until 1994.

Now, mind you, evidence suggests that Lincoln suffered primarily from Marfan's Syndrome, with a strong possibility of bouts of major depression, and personally I think Dickinson was afflicted mostly with Poetry and Being-an-Intelligent-Woman-In-Victorian-Era-New-England Disorder...


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18 Dec 2009, 10:16 pm

DeaconBlues wrote:
t0 wrote:
Lucymac wrote:
Just wondering who are these famous, celebrity people with AS? Is it true Bill Gates has AS, Abraham Lincoln, Emily Dickinson or are these just educated guestimates???


I'll give you a hint: Abraham Lincoln and Emily Dickinson died before Hans Asperger was alive.

So, before Hans Asperger did his research, nobody had Asperger's Syndrome?


It would be impossible for those persons to have been diagnosed with AS (or whatever term Hans Asperger actually used) because the diagnosis had not been created. If you're familiar with the current processes for diagnosing individuals, you know that it's impossible to diagnose a dead person. Which means at best they are "educated guestimates."

I would also suggest that noone "has" AS - I believe it to be an inseparable part of one's self.

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Does that mean that before Martinus Beijerinck's work in 1898, there were no viruses? Or that until the advent of Niels Bohr, electrons didn't orbit nuclei in atoms?


You've described physical entites that obviously exist. However, before 1892 (Dimitri Ivanovski), it would have been impossible to diagnose someone with a virus - as there wouldn't be diagnostic criteria for something not known to exist. Certainly if a virus could be identified in a corpse, it would be possible post-1892 to test posthumously. I am not aware of a similar test for ASD. Or anyones' attempts to exhume the bodies of Abraham Lincoln and/or Emily Dickinson for testing.

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That's as absurd as...


I believe you've misunderstood my initial point. Hopefully this cleared it up.



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21 Dec 2009, 1:47 am

I do not think he is overall. Although he has some tendencies such as rocking and fickleness, he seems to have a lot more in common with the average person. Aspergers syndrome was barely used if ever as a diagnosis when he was a child and teen.

Besides, if I was in a multi-billion dollar enterprise, I would not make it public knowledge that I might have a condition. I would rather keep it to myself.



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25 Dec 2009, 10:37 pm

Well I heard about this myth very frequently. But there has to be articles to talk about Bill Gate's upbringing as a child, how he grew up, how he socialized with his peers and so on.
So there needs to be more books and so on to back up this statement.



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25 Dec 2009, 11:13 pm

FreeSpirit2000 wrote:
Well I heard about this myth very frequently. But there has to be articles to talk about Bill Gate's upbringing as a child, how he grew up, how he socialized with his peers and so on.
So there needs to be more books and so on to back up this statement.


back up what statement? What myth. Is there a link to what you are referring to here?

:D

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26 Dec 2009, 2:46 am

I don’t like speculating about people who are still alive.
If he doesn’t want to be a poster child for Asperger’s, that’s his choice.
One’s reputation matters, in business and in personal relationships.
How he manages it should be left to him.



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27 Dec 2009, 11:00 pm

sinsboldly wrote:
FreeSpirit2000 wrote:
Well I heard about this myth very frequently. But there has to be articles to talk about Bill Gate's upbringing as a child, how he grew up, how he socialized with his peers and so on.
So there needs to be more books and so on to back up this statement.


back up what statement? What myth. Is there a link to what you are referring to here?

:D

Merle


A parent was recently asking if its true, the rumors that Bill Gates has AS. Of course, we have no idea, just many different opinions. So, I've assumed the poster is referring to that thread.


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27 Dec 2009, 11:23 pm

Threads merged.


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01 Jul 2016, 12:01 pm

Why is this topic in the Parents' Discussion section?
Just wondering.