Noticed any professional 'ignorance' about Asperger's?

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08 Jan 2009, 11:13 pm

"The psychiatrist I went to said I didn't have Asperger's because I looked at him in the eye."

Naturally I do not look people in the eye, but through life people always said you must give eye contact. So I try to when I can, but I have noticed that when I don't look people in the eye, I understand what they say much better.

Before I knew anything about AS I thought of this similar to

suppose you become blind, your other senses increase such as hearing increase, so I thought of it like that, when I don't make eye contact (not concentrating on my vision) my hearing or understanding of what I hear increases.


How I feel when I make eye contact reminds me of a solar eclipse, the light part radiated around the sphere is like how I feel with sensory overload, its coming from what central point (the person, or maybe there eye or eyes) and extends out in every direction around me and it burns in a sort of way. Hmm thats weird when I think of how I feel there is something visual directly associated.

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So the black part in the center is their face or maybe their eyes what I can't look at or concentrate on, and then the sensory overload is what is the red light that is around that dark circle. hmm..



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08 Jan 2009, 11:24 pm

How much was this uneducated idiot paid to see you and tell you that you don't have something that he knows absoutly nothing about? I would seek a second opinion, by someone that KNOWS what aspergers is. Goodluck. I'm at the same point of trying to find a specialist that can diagnose an adult with aspergers.



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09 Jan 2009, 12:30 am

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I had to self diagnose yet another time.....but it took ten years of no doctor EVER 'seeing' my problem. I had to suggest it to them......and before I reached one who believed me, the one before him told me I wasn't in real pain while I was in the middle of a full blown gall bladder attack which lasted for days. The health care tech that did my sonogram when I finally got diagnosed....said she had never seen so many stones so packed. I went through attacks for years because no doctor paid attention. I wonder if it is because of my Asperger's that my doctor didn't find it.....I almost feel like she thinks I'm a nutcase, and like everything that would go wrong with me is 'in my head'....so she didn't give it a serious study. Thank-You for your reinforcing comments......I like the way people think on *this* planet.

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I had a lot of trouble getting dx'ed and treated for fibromyalgia & a related cadio problem -- I think a lot of it was not giving off the right non-verbal signals that said "pain" or "ill" -- I can be really sick but noone seems to notice unless I pass out and fall on them or something. One time an ER doctor told me he'd never seen anyone with their blood chemistry so far off who was conscious let alone able to answer questions and "look ok" (I felt like I was maybe going actually die). Anyway, I think doctors are subconciously effected a lot more than one would think by non-verbal communication stuff. And also that they don't live with it is a good point too.



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09 Jan 2009, 12:59 am

I think psychologists and psychiatrists have too many idiots out there and that's the problem. Your story is the worst I've seen though, but I know many who will diagnose kids as Aspergers, but because of those temper tantrums, they must also be bipolar and if the child is overactive, then it's also ADHD when temper tantrums and over activity are symptoms of Aspergers. But Bipolar and ADHD can be medicated, meaning more kickbacks for the doc. Sometimes, I think they also feel compelled to treat something with any pill to make it look like they are helping or something.

Anyway, all these quacks out there is exactly what makes psychology so hard to give scientific method. Think about all the studies on Aspergers and Autism that ask for an official diagnosis. Those studies would be much more accurate if they did their own diagnosis correctly. Judging from the percentage of idiot psycho doctors I seem to hear about or run into, I can only imagine the percentage of misdiagnosed people that take part of those studies. How are they going to learn anything about it if they can't even get the diagnosis right?



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09 Jan 2009, 1:01 am

Apple_in_my_Eye wrote:
Sola wrote:
I had to self diagnose yet another time.....but it took ten years of no doctor EVER 'seeing' my problem. I had to suggest it to them......and before I reached one who believed me, the one before him told me I wasn't in real pain while I was in the middle of a full blown gall bladder attack which lasted for days. The health care tech that did my sonogram when I finally got diagnosed....said she had never seen so many stones so packed. I went through attacks for years because no doctor paid attention. I wonder if it is because of my Asperger's that my doctor didn't find it.....I almost feel like she thinks I'm a nutcase, and like everything that would go wrong with me is 'in my head'....so she didn't give it a serious study. Thank-You for your reinforcing comments......I like the way people think on *this* planet.

Sola


I had a lot of trouble getting dx'ed and treated for fibromyalgia & a related cadio problem -- I think a lot of it was not giving off the right non-verbal signals that said "pain" or "ill" -- I can be really sick but noone seems to notice unless I pass out and fall on them or something. One time an ER doctor told me he'd never seen anyone with their blood chemistry so far off who was conscious let alone able to answer questions and "look ok" (I felt like I was maybe going actually die). Anyway, I think doctors are subconciously effected a lot more than one would think by non-verbal communication stuff. And also that they don't live with it is a good point too.



I also had to go to the ER for blood chemistry that was extreemly far off(almost died), but I looked ill though. (epsecially at 65lbs and 20 years old at the time.)



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09 Jan 2009, 3:09 am

My psychiatrist didn't believe my psychologist's diagnosis of AS because 'people with Asperger's are not very intelligent, and you're very intelligent'. He then admitted that he knew very little about AS.

Another psychiatrist said I couldn't have AS because people with AS 'don't do anything'. Apparently, I 'do things'.
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09 Jan 2009, 7:54 am

eMedicine on Rain Man:

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The prevailing public face of autism comes from the movie Rain Man in which actor Dustin Hoffman played an adult with autism with not only the behavioral rigidity, peculiar language, and social abnormality characteristic of the syndrome but also the savant abilities present in a quarter of individuals with autism who also have an intelligence quotient (IQ) of at least 35.


I read that the character was based on several different individuals with Autism, in addition to Kim Peek; I identify with him in many ways--I have better expressive speech, but he's more social and less housebound than I am.



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09 Jan 2009, 10:44 am

OMG! How can a person be that stupid and superficial?! Especially he should have a lot of knowledge about ASD! Appalling.


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09 Jan 2009, 10:48 am

The first professional I saw never looked into an ASD without MR because, they thought the chance that any person like that least a female nearing adulthood could have autism is so unlikely, it's not even worth asking one question and referring to the obvious symptoms.


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09 Jan 2009, 8:54 pm

Did he happen to mention that the Rainman character was based on TWO separate individuals, only one of whom actually has Autism? Kim is one individual with the photographic memory for things he's read, and he can read two palges simultaneously. he is unable to live independently.
I had the opportunity to hear the mother of the other individual who was the basis for Rainman and although he requires paid help to live in his home, he PAYS for the live in help with his own money, as he has a great job.



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09 Jan 2009, 9:53 pm

I usually just see a neurologist and neuropsychologist but there was a point when I felt like I needed to see someone on a weekly basis (the other two don't do that) so I started seeing a therapist.

...she'd never heard of AS.

I'm the sort who has so little faith in the psychiatric profession that in our first two sessions, I didn't tell her I had it. I told her I had "something", but wanted her to figure out on her own what it was. Then at the end of the second session, I could see that she wasn't getting it (probably because I told her I had increased sensitivity to all of my senses and that coffee really bothered me but she insisted on having her pet cup with her during our f*****g sessions where I spent my f*****g money for no good) so I flat out asked her if she knew anything about autistic spectrum disorders.

She said...

"A little.... oh... but I don't think you have one."

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Then I showed her the papers from my neuropsychologist (which I'd promised I'd show her) saying that I did. b***h.

This is why I make sure I only go to real doctors.