11 points about Israel,Lebanon and Palestinians
What makes this worse is here in the good ole' U.S. of A, Bush and Cheney get away with breaking by pardoning themselves. They should be put on trial at Nuremberg like any common criminal including Hitler. If they can get away with what they did at the Abu Ghraib prison, then there's pretty much no use for the Geneva Convention.
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Yes that is true. Several successive Israeli governments believed that splinter groups that have lead onto Hamas would embarrass the PLO, and then somehow it would all end there. Now it is much more religion than culture based extreme situation and they act as if that was a great surprise. Just like they knew that gaza was a pressure cooker, yet they allowed the cease fire to expire by 2 days. There are those the Israeli government would much rather have an enemy that doesn't want them to exist (and the feeling is mutual if they are honest) than one that is trying to find way of living along side, and deal with the refugee problem. That is because they don't have to live in these conditions, and they know full well they live at the others expense. The similarities with the ghettos and grand apartheid hold true. It is even better than that as they can control nearly everything from outside.
Have you noticed there is never an argument for the settlers? I not heard anyone giving me a good reason why they should be there at all. It is always something that is brushed under the carpet even though the UN resolution says there should not be there.
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#17 and #18 topic
Israeli policies are a reaction to hamas' birth.
The Israelis should never have "tolerated" Hamas as an alternative to Fatah/PLO, but of course hindsight is 20/20 vision.
Better the devil you know, as my Irish ancestors would have said.
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Screw Israel. Sure the Islamic terrorists are bad but Jizzrael is a genocidal death country. I had Judaism forced on me as a kid and I wish I could take back every cent I was tricked into giving towards tzedakah (Israeli charity). 3 times as many Palestinians are killed than Israelis. Most Israelis that are killed are soldiers. Most Palestinians killed are civilians. I hate the Pissraeli government almost as much as I hate the Saudi government. We are only friends with the Saudis for the oil. We are only friends with the Israelis for control in the middle east.
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Yep thats a good one to justify genocide, they used it here. Australia was legally declared Terra Nullius (empty land) the Aboriginals were classed as part of the natural fauna
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You are certain the motivation is to increase civilian deaths rather than merely a necessity in the achievement of a wider goal?
Might I ask where such an organization in such circumstances could otherwise sensibly put themselves? Are you suggesting that if they located themselves in a centralized fashion, away from civilians, that they would still be in that location long, rather than all "dead by lunchtime"?
Is it not plausible that Hamas locates itself as it does, because its members are neither entirely stupid, not determined to fail utterly?
It was rightly pointed out that the population density of Palestine virtually guarantees that military units cannot escape being embedded in the civilian population.
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It was rightly pointed out that the population density of Palestine virtually guarantees that military units cannot escape being embedded in the civilian population.
Its hard to tell if these stories are really the case, or just propaganda.
But the admission made hardly any difference any more. By that time, the Israeli public was completely convinced that "they shot from inside the school" and TV announcers stated this as a simple fact.
So it went with the other atrocities. Every baby metamorphosed, in the act of dying, into a Hamas terrorist. Every bombed mosque instantly became a Hamas base, every apartment building an arms cache, every school a terror command post, every civilian government building a "symbol of Hamas rule." Thus the Israeli army retained its purity as the "most moral army in the world."
http://www.morningstaronline.co.uk/news ... _slaughter
It was rightly pointed out that the population density of Palestine virtually guarantees that military units cannot escape being embedded in the civilian population.
I have a big problem with Hamas. I am in support of Israel.
But guess what? The Truth is the Truth. My bias is less important than the facts. Why isnt yours?
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I see a definite Palistinian bias in the news, even from the BBC.
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