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16 Jan 2009, 12:12 am

he's beautiful! Yours too? And what was he saying at the beginning? It sounded to me like "Pancho!" (Spanish nick for Francisco)


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16 Jan 2009, 12:28 am

No, this one isn't mine.


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16 Jan 2009, 1:00 am

Woodpecker wrote:
I have a problem with my wife's 7 Kg terrier dog, if I mention the word "walk" he gets excited and thinks it is time for me to walk him. Also if I mention any related words or phrases.

such as

"Around the block"
"Constitutional"

I am in an "arms race" with the dog, I have to keep thinking of new expressions which mean going for a walk which my wife can understand but the dog can not. But he quickly learns what the new phrases are. Each time the dog hears a phrase which might mean anything to do with walking he gets excited and demands his walk.


have you tried spelling the word. I do that around my kids.



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16 Jan 2009, 1:04 am

i used to do that with my dogs but one of them has figured that it means walk so she demands a walk,



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16 Jan 2009, 1:06 am

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Here's my Ellie dog. She is an Austrailian Shepard and I drove a 1000 miles one way to get her. She's way smarter than Lassie. My wife and I planned to make the trip a 'special' one if you know what I mean and we booked a nice room in a swank hotel and paid extra to have the puppy in the room. Ended up the dog had to sleep with me otherwise she whelped continuously and the clerks wanted to throw us out of the place. At 2AM she peed in the bed and started crying so we hit the road as they say. So much for a romantic weekend.
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That's Ellie on the left and my wife Bev on the right just in case anybody wanted to know.



She's BEAUTIFUL. Of course, I have a soft spot for herding dogs- I'm a sheltie mommy. Your wife is lovely as well, of course.



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16 Jan 2009, 1:11 am

I find it interesting watching the behaviors my 3 pet rats(actually, one is mine and each of my sons has one each. )they are all in the same cage(The RAT MANOR)a large multi level cage. What was quite interesting was watching them decide their heirarchy(pecking order)they are all males. Obviously, the biggest is the dominate one, then the next is the medium sized one, and mine, the smallest(youngest) is at the bottom. The one thing that i am thankful for,so far, is that I have't had two challenge eachother for dominance(which would be a all out- fur flying -ball of biting rats.) Instead, the one being dominated, will be passive and not fight. They take turns with this and from what i read, it should be done in about a week, hopefully. All of them have little nips in their fur.



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16 Jan 2009, 6:34 am

You mean they rotate the roles in the hierarchy?


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16 Jan 2009, 7:08 am

KingdomofRats, I loved your description of a typical day in your cat's life :) Loving to watch running water is certainly Aspie, she does sound like a good soul-mate pet for us all here!


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16 Jan 2009, 8:27 am

Animals are often about smells and scents. Cats rub their head against your leg because they are smearing their Body Odor (so to speak) on you to claim you as territory. You'll see them rubbing their heads on walls, sofas, trees, doors, etc. When I had three cats, it was the Alpha cat (the one who didn't cover her litter in the litter box) who seemed the most territorial.

Dogs are very social creatures, like humans, and they sniff each other to get a sense of the scent. It really is like saying "Hi, how are you." It's there way to get a feel for the creature (they even sniff human behinds too) to decide if this thing is a threat or friendly. It's also their way of bonding with something. I think they start to sniff you out before you even recognize them sniffing. They have two sniffs. Ground sniffs (which they can smell for a long time after you walked there) and air sniffs. So they smell you coming long before you see them, and they are getting a feel for you there too. Then, when they decide they like you that far and are still curious, then they sniff your butt to really get a feel for who you are. I'm sure territory plays a role in there somewhere, as they are more apt to sniff out stranger butts in their house to distinguish what items in the house smells like a stranger and what items smell like their master to get a feel for what is shared territory. Have you ever went to someone else's house, and the dog is friendly with you until the person takes you to their bedroom or a room that is uncommon for a stranger/visitor/guest to enter? They do that with other animals as well. They want to get to know an animal's scent to figure that animal's territory. But also, especially for mating between the species, it's a way to get to know somedog.

People kinda do it too I guess, like most wives know their husband's body odor smell, and many kinda like it. Even if it's not the BO, many women find comfort in smelling the cologne their father wore after their father dies, or same for an exboyfriend they loved after the break up. That's why we like to wear their old clothes, especially if they hadn't been laundered since he wore it. It's like an instinct we never really think about.

But, I will say, there are rules in the animal kingdom, or a social etiquette. Every species seem to have their own set of rules, and the more you know about them, the easier it is to get a long with an animal stranger. Like if you know a lot about dog behavior, when you go to rob someone's house (not saying you would, but hypothetically) who has a Rott, then you know in order to work around the Rott, it would be best to visit before hand pretending to be a Jehova Witness or something in order to get that Rott to know your scent and make sure you mark your territory while visiting :) Seriously, there are real benefits to knowing certain behaviors and rules. Cat haters would benefit knowing things like constant attention from strangers to a cat is intimidating, and that's why they always seem to rub all over and hang around the guy giving them the least amount of attention (usually the cat hater) because they seem less intimidating. Dogs I think are intimidated when you look them in the eye, so if you are trying to show your dog whose boss, sticking your face in his without fear would do better than yanking on his chain while someone who fears dogs would be best to not make any eye contact at all.

What I also think is interesting is that a veterinarian once told me she preferred male cats to females because females were more temperamental. You can see that with humans so well too. She was purrfect proof of that as she was one of the most temperamental veterinarians I ever had the pleasure of knowing.

I used to have 3 cats. I ended up giving them to the humane society (in tears) when I moved across country back home because it seemed impossible at the time (long story) to take them with me, but I was going to give them to friends when I moved home anyway because they were getting territorial over the babies, and I couldn't have that, especially when urine plays a role in territory. If they could have left it with wiping their spit everywhere, I would have lived with that. I used to feel guilty about it, but now I realize if it were sheer animal kingdom rules, we would have fought to the death over that territory and being at the top of the food chain, I would have won. So, giving them away was more humane. I still wish I could afford a place big enough where territory could have been easier shared.



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16 Jan 2009, 8:46 am

Oh, and has anyone ever noticed people who are more in tune with animal instincts tend to be better fighters?

I remember dating dudes that were pretty rough, and won tough men contests and such, and they were more about animal things than people things like smells and tastes rather than conversation. They were also good at other things outside of fighting.

Anyway, I also got to thinking some more, I seemed to learn the art of body language studying animal body language and finding a lot of that going on with humans. Like math is the universal language, body language is earthwide. It really helped me with learning non-verbal cues. My issue now isn't reading other people as much as controlling what I do, and it's all thanks to animals and my psychotic (with pride) army brat best friend (she's into psychological stuff like CIA type lie detecting and basic training mind games).



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16 Jan 2009, 9:00 am

I adore my cats.

What else can I say? I love them. I worship the ground they walk upon :)



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16 Jan 2009, 9:05 am

one of my dogs (a beagle/cavelier king charles spaniel) likes to lick the ginger cat. the cat puts up with it for a while then swipes at the dog. a couple of times bailey (the dog) has yelped like he is hurt when ginger (the cat) didn't even do anything. ( i was watching them).

the ginger cat follows me for the first block when i take the dogs for a walk. he sometimes follows me when i walk to the bus stop. he follows for a bit then he goes somewhere else.



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16 Jan 2009, 9:26 am

I got a new dog yesterday. He's bad with babies and my sister is pregnant so she gave him to me so she could still visit him (as opposed to giving him away to a stranger).


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16 Jan 2009, 10:39 am

This is a most interesting post as, for years growing up my sister and myself had been away all sorts of animals from large amount of cats,2 dogs, 1 guinea pig,1 rabbit,several goldfish.Nowadays, I tend to spend time with my mom's cat when time permits.In fact, I'd say, that I've spent more time around Archie than my own mom however, I've found pets to be like a sort of friend of sorts as, they don't get angry at you for making mistakes and simply accept you unconditionally..



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16 Jan 2009, 11:03 am

Kirska wrote:
I got a new dog yesterday. He's bad with babies and my sister is pregnant so she gave him to me so she could still visit him (as opposed to giving him away to a stranger).


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Is that the rock band drum set I see back there? :)



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16 Jan 2009, 6:30 pm

garyww wrote:
Here's my Ellie dog. She is an Austrailian Shepard and I drove a 1000 miles one way to get her. She's way smarter than Lassie. My wife and I planned to make the trip a 'special' one if you know what I mean and we booked a nice room in a swank hotel and paid extra to have the puppy in the room. Ended up the dog had to sleep with me otherwise she whelped continuously and the clerks wanted to throw us out of the place. At 2AM she peed in the bed and started crying so we hit the road as they say. So much for a romantic weekend.
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That's Ellie on the left and my wife Bev on the right just in case anybody wanted to know.


Garyww!! She is beautiful!! ! The dog is nice too :wink:
Haha just kidding I meant the dog. What a pretty pretty puppy. I love her!