Our world may be a giant hologram - Fascinating NS Article

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19 Jan 2009, 8:28 pm

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wss created in a language with your RLwords&grammar;


Thank you, I can now see how the fault is with how obtuse our speech is.



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20 Jan 2009, 5:41 am

Death_of_Pathos wrote:
oblio wrote:
wss created in a language with your RLwords&grammar;


Thank you, I can now see how the fault is with how obtuse our speech is.


only puts you ahead of me, mate!! !

[strangely, it is veryvery often a matter mere poor design (including text-ergonomics)

when programming: please do not program from your perspective:
always from user-perspective, or at least
make sure of a shell-interface to allow for my perspective

it is very often like the specialist's prescription & the drugstore on XTC



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20 Jan 2009, 8:05 am

It was sarcasm. I cant tell what the intent of that post is, so I will answer blindly instead.

In case you are unaware, phrases like "veryvery often a matter mere poor design (including text-ergonomics)" are difficult to understand because they A) lack major parts of speech B) make no sense.

Programming from the perspective of the end user is ret*d. In >99% of cases the end user will not see the code. Good program techniques have nothing to do with letting the user be able to know what lies beneath the UI, in fact it is a BAD habit to do just that as it makes the code less secure.

I see no meaningful correlation between a pharmacist being high and a programmer designing his code according to industry accepted standards.



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20 Jan 2009, 8:29 am

I have a difficulty with wording "be a hologram".

I think it would be much better to say, "we can describe the world we are all living in as a hologram". Our ideas about matter, space, time etc. are just models in which we describe the world. The only difference would be that a hologram would appear for our apes' brains more abstract and less easy to understand.

But there is no reason to assume that the world is designed in a way that it fits within our presumptions of the world, which were designed to survive in Africa's savannah.



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20 Jan 2009, 8:58 am

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I have a difficulty with wording "be a hologram".


Yes, but your wording wouldn't cause such a buzz. That is absolutely crucial to the people in charge of putting this article out there.



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20 Jan 2009, 1:52 pm

Death_of_Pathos wrote:
Programming from the perspective of the end user is ret*d. In >99% of cases the end user will not see the code. Good program techniques have nothing to do with letting the user be able to know what lies beneath the UI, in fact it is a BAD habit to do just that as it makes the code less secure.

I see no meaningful correlation between a pharmacist being high and a programmer designing his code according to industry accepted standards.


I'm a professional software developer and one thing I do make mistakes with is assuming the end user knows more than they do or have more general computer skills than they do. It is surprisingly difficult. I've been around computers for thirty years and programming them for nearly as long. What I do nowadays is sit people with very little knowledge about computers at the computer and let them use my software. I sit watching them and noting where they have problems or make usage errors. They also give me verbal feedback. I avoid the temptation to tell them where they are going wrong and instead see what I can do different in the software to eliminate the problem in the first place. Not always easy.


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24 Jan 2009, 1:08 am

Sorry...;) the first few were Star Trek, the last was the Matrix...;) Actually, they raised the issue on a TNG episode, I don't remember the name of (had Moriarty in it...;)


Maybe it's just a cosmically-bad analogy...;)



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24 Jan 2009, 3:22 am

Dussel wrote:
I have a difficulty with wording "be a hologram".

I think it would be much better to say, "we can describe the world we are all living in as a hologram". Our ideas about matter, space, time etc. are just models in which we describe the world. The only difference would be that a hologram would appear for our apes' brains more abstract and less easy to understand.

But there is no reason to assume that the world is designed in a way that it fits within our presumptions of the world, which were designed to survive in Africa's savannah.


I always considered it like a hologram/VR. But in a sense almost like a computer game that you place your consciousness into and the particles and waves take the place of binary code, etc.

Maybe we agreed to take part in an experiment where we forfeit previous knowledge to experience this life/reality and death is merely being removed from the game. Like you are given a VR body and you have a certain amount of time in the game and then you leave.

The question then is what is the (purpose of the game)/(meaning of life) and what lies outside of the game.


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25 Jan 2009, 9:58 pm

I'm just wondering where the honkon' big laser that sustains it is...;)

j/k...;)



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26 Jan 2009, 6:08 am

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That is like saying the world is a dream that God is having. It is a highly untestable proposition and can be safely ignored.

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