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Neuroman wrote:
This makes me wonder if increasing commuication skills could address some issues of overload.


I'm sure it would as long as the effort to learn to increase communication skills doesn't increase stress beyond the point of bearing. Look at talk therapy. Why else does it work? People communicate their stresses and usually end up feeling improved-- at least for a little while.

In my own case, poor communication skills have been the frequent bane of my life. If the other person were more trained in drawing out my speech-- since sometimes it's so difficult to put into words-- maybe even guessing to help me put it into words, to have the utmost patience, and to not interrupt even when it sounds like I've finished talking, it would be incalculably helpful.

But such people rarely exist these days. Not even in therapists, since talk therapists aren't used to even having THAT much patience. And they interrupt so much and disrupt my slow-flowing train of thought.

I think all autistic people could do with some healthy speech and communication therapy, even those who don't have obvious speech problems like many Aspergers.




I believe that this might be an interresting topic, its premise is concise and straightforward, and neither has a difficult time communicating in verse form.
I also wonder why that is?.

Any thoughts, or current subject rebuttal?

Your title is misleading.
I have always wondered what people got out of talk therapy. As a therapist I was more of a problem solver. I was horribly bored by the people who just wanted to talk. I usually discouraged them by telling them that I would not give them any answers, but I would help them find the ones they already had.
Therapy doesn't work well for me - I seem to speak a different language and the therapist often gets defensive. One therapist compared conversation with me to playing with a ball, and too often I place the ball on a high shelf and expect that the other person can get it down. She said to me it is a game but the other person feels inadequate.
At least she was honest.
For some people communication training would work, but not for me. I am missing too much of the non-verbals and even if I learned what everything means, I would still have to do it all in the front of my head and I still would not be able to keep up.
Supposedly there is a treatment out there that can develop those skills but I am skeptical and wonder what I would lose.

That's funny, Neuroman. I always hated therapists who tried to solve my problems, themselves. I like therapists better who help me to solve my own problems.

But maybe that's just because I was on the other end and am inordinately independent intellectually (as are you). Therapists are supposed to get bored with their clients sometimes, aren't they? I thought that came with the territory.

As for communicating in verse form, it allows for more time to think, ponder, and edit, as well as to avoid anxiety-provoking interaction and multiple stimuli. And I also suspect there's something which is damaged or malfunctions in the verbal part of our language systems in many of us where the written expression is still fairly intact.

But of course, this is further on my brain damage hypothesis. Grain of salt.

I've been reading a smashing book, btw, called Understanding Aphasia. I'm very glad for my last physiological psych class otherwise that book would be so hard to get through: brain anatomy out the wazzoo.

I just read that problems with speech prosody can be caused by right-hemispheric damage. The author lists his journal source for this and maybe next week I'm going to go down to the local state hospital where they have a psych journals library and see if I can find the article.

*excited*

you are in a minority. i don't know how many times i insulted people who actually said in one form or another that they were paying me to find the answers.

not as quickly as i did...

I guess it's the challenge then to get them to solve their own problems without them knowing they're solving their own problems, hehe.

and that brings up that nasty little communication issue (i could have sworn there was a frustrated emoticon)

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