How Can We Prepare for Social Unrest & Civil Disorder?

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How Are You Prepared for Civil Unrest and Social Disorder?
I've got guns, a food hoard, an attack dog and I live in the outback 19%  19%  [ 15 ]
I have some food and medicine that will last me about a month 15%  15%  [ 12 ]
I haven't done anything differently to prepare for social disorder 37%  37%  [ 29 ]
I'm one of the looters and burglars that they're warning about! 10%  10%  [ 8 ]
Social disorder? You mean Asperger Syndrome??? 19%  19%  [ 15 ]
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05 Apr 2009, 8:01 pm

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I don't think the flu pandemic has been discussed in this thread.


well don't forget about that super volcano that's over due to erupt.


Are you talking about the one in Yellowstone? When that does erupt again, it will wipe out most of the USA and will affect the whole world. I saw a program on TV about it but I forget everything I learned. I'd have to google it and read up on it.


Yes that is the one I was talking about.



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05 Apr 2009, 9:05 pm

If you got really hard up for explanations, you could look at supply and demand.

Supply is real simple. It's the number of houses out there, including all those new ones they've been building lately.

Most people don't own more than one house, so demand doesn't increase like it does when everybody has to run out and buy the latest cell phone.

When somebody sells one house and buys another, there's no net change.

Demand would increase when somebody buys a house when they didn't own one before and decrease when somebody sells a house without buying another one.

It doesn't sound to me like a process that would produce a quick recovery.

But now I'm stumped. I can't figure out how a price bubble could have happened in the housing market in the first place.


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05 Apr 2009, 9:06 pm

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A long way to go before we hit bottom may be right. Our local property tax accessor has said that he expects continued delcines in property values thru 2013 and that they may be 'significant' declines so he has put the City on alert as not to be expecting any more revenue from property taxes since he will begin reassessments this week.


I know that Nevada, which relies on sales and casino taxes, is practically shutting down everything-gaming commission, universities/colleges, everything except law enforcement. And residents are openly arguing for shutting that down and forming vigilance committees. It reminds me of the town in Texas where the cops were stopping travelers and robbing them of everything but the clothes on their backs and then dumping them in remote areas. In the future, one may have to give up one's casino take as an exit fee to leave Nevada, payable to the local vigilantes.



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05 Apr 2009, 10:03 pm

I went to Wal Mart Neighborhood Market today and guess what I saw? These preassembled totes with supplies inside. When I saw them I thought of this thread, lol.
Animal Crackers, a gallon of drinking water, and a dust mask were what I could see when I glanced at what was inside.
I also looked at the price tag. They wanted around $28 for one. It would have been more than $28 with sales tax. I guess if you don't know what to get or have time to gather everything on your own. one of those tote's a good alternative.
These totes were for tornado season, tho.



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06 Apr 2009, 1:05 am

The latest in housing is $650,000 houses in So Cal are going for $200,000.

The FHA, which is finaly taking notice says 1.2% of new mortages are not making a single payment, and three time that are making only one payment, and all of the loan fees are financed.

They suspect fraud, and it's about time. A lot of no doc were the same, finance the fees, points, then default.

As FHA takes two years tax returns, I suspect identity theft.

FHA works through local lenders, realtors, who also handle the foreclosure.

Voteing the graveyard, local dead people who have their info on file are buying houses.

Just the FHA looks like 5% fraud.

Before they default they are packagd as a security, sold, and the security insured with a credit default swap, knowing it is fraud and will default.

So a serial fraud coming from Realtors, Mortgage Brokers, Banks, Brokers, working together, to defraud insurance companies.

When four people conspire to commit a crime, none are guilty of the whole crime. It is called Organized Crime.

Fannie and Freddy went under because they were sold bad paper. They were told it was good.

AIG went under because it insured bad paper, it was told it was good.

Realtors and Mortgage Brokers were the feeder funds for Banks, who with Brokers, stuck other people with AAA rated worthless paper.

So like Ponzis being discovered durning a down turn, Banks have been selling bad paper. It is up to the Bank to verify that the property is worth the sale price, and the buyer meets qualifications to purchase.

Realtors got a sales commission, Mortgage Brokers a fee, but it was the Bank who collected Points, and a lot more. It was Banks who sent these economic bombs into the system.

It was Banks who sold securities based on these loans, then insured them. So they got the Security money, then the Insurance money, and only had to continue Bond payments.

This was the reason behind the Glass Segal Act of 1933, deregulated out in 1999. Banks were not allowed to sell Securities, for they will sell sixty times the value of the mortgages, insure them, and claim they had nothing to do with the default.

It only took a decade to crash the system, just like 1929.

They inflated and destroyed the housing market, destroyed bank capital, broke the insurers, the Pension Funds, University Endowments, Charities, froze the Credit Market for real AAA Corporations, and collapsed the World Economy. Now they are loan sharking on credit cards.

Besides other losses, perhaps 1500 banks will become worthless, and those who did it will walk away with billions.

In May we reach the milestone of longest downturn since the Great Depression.

We are still in free fall.

Since they have a strong interest in our economy, and are good people, we should sub contract the investigation and resolution to the Chinese Police. The Bankers acts have directly impacted the Chinese economy, and under Globalism, we must keep an open and transparent rule of international law.

The Chinese hold a Trillion in government bonds, and ten trillion in cash. That equals our National Debt. We owe them an accounting, and the ability to charge the criminals under Chinese Law.

As the Dollar is the International Reserve Currency, we owe the world an explanation.

Only a truely Independent Investigation can get to the bottom of this mess, and make sure it does not happen again.

I have several Motorcycle Club connections in China, all Red Army. They can put forth 10,000 accountants to trace every dime.

So far we have cost China at least a Trillion Dollars. We do have an Extradition Treaty that covers Theft through Fraud.

The United States is broke, and does not have the staff to regulate or investigate.

We need Outside Accountants.

To restore the World Economy, we must restore faith in the World Reserve Currency.

China is the third largest economy, and the largest holder of our Bonds and cash.

It is time to do the right thing.



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06 Apr 2009, 1:20 am

^ man, america sucks.
hey inventor. :)



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06 Apr 2009, 4:37 am

Prepare for social unrest by killing cops

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7983894.stm



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06 Apr 2009, 4:51 am

Jsmitheh wrote:
Prepare for social unrest by killing cops

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7983894.stm


Rather bad advice.

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06 Apr 2009, 7:32 am

CanyonWind wrote:
If you got really hard up for explanations, you could look at supply and demand.

Supply is real simple. It's the number of houses out there, including all those new ones they've been building lately.

Most people don't own more than one house, so demand doesn't increase like it does when everybody has to run out and buy the latest cell phone.

When somebody sells one house and buys another, there's no net change.

Demand would increase when somebody buys a house when they didn't own one before and decrease when somebody sells a house without buying another one.

It doesn't sound to me like a process that would produce a quick recovery.

But now I'm stumped. I can't figure out how a price bubble could have happened in the housing market in the first place.


The below is a Bill Moyers interview of a banking regulatory expert.

It covers what happened, why it happened and why the government isn't fixing our economy's problems with all these bailouts... letting the problems grow instead.

Bill Moyer's Interview of Black... What's wrong



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06 Apr 2009, 7:59 am

Now's the time to buy up them houses. If I had tons of money I would be buying them up left and right. Golden opportunity!



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06 Apr 2009, 1:13 pm

ephemerella wrote:
The below is a Bill Moyers interview of a banking regulatory expert.

It covers what happened, why it happened and why the government isn't fixing our economy's problems with all these bailouts... letting the problems grow instead.

Bill Moyer's Interview of Black... What's wrong


Makes sense and explains quite a bit.


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