I am an "indigo child" (Try and prove me wrong!)

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Welcome. You're a feisty spirit too.
I don't feel any need to ambush you.

However, for some reason I just had a vague memory about a movie from the 80's called Children of the corn. I don't remember movies in great detail but I think it was the blonde hair and blue eyes that made me remember pieces of the film.

Maybe it was another movie.

What are some of the traits associated with all "indigos?" The symptom would obviously be classified as insomnia.
-They simply can not fall into a 24 hour sleep schedule
--Research suggests that no one else really does either, but some are more adaptable to it.

Why would this have happened?
-Indoor lighting
--We've adapted for longer days because of indoor lighting.

People out lash and chose not to accept another because they are different, but at the same time wish others would accept them for being different.

I bet you also can't recall where I said I was better than anyone else, but you just automatically assumed I would like all the un-self-actualized individuals here. Because they/you haven't met certain criteria in life to transcend into the next level you lack an ability to understand other peoples "theory of mind."

I've concluded form many observations that it is almost impossible to engage in rational and logical debate when emotions get in the way. The only loop hole around it is to be further up on Marlow's hierarchy of needs (where, I'm not sure yet.)

I often confuse many people by summing up "complex" conceptual information in simple words. The logic is infallible, but none the less most people fail to see the point.

Dsylexia does have correlation with (emotional) intelligence depending on how you measure what is intelligent and I think it would be absurd to assume that someone would be able to process proper emotinal response with an inability to comprehend what they are reading. The difference between Dyslexia and Hyperlexia is that Hyperlexics understand/comprehend what they read where as Dyslexic individuals do not. Oh the flip side, hyperlexics have more troubles learning words (unless learned auditorily), pronouncing words, verbosity, and other forms of verbal language.

You use the "you don't know me" defense mechanism, but you just can't seem to apply it to me, not true. Now that you have thought about it and it has been brought from your subconscious mind to your conscious mind you can relate our emotional responses. Because I'm more aware of mine I do not allow my emotions to cloud my logic. I'm more aware because my brain is wired differently and this has to do with synthesia (and example would be seeing numbers as colors.)

I posted articles with various authors claiming a link between ADD/ADHD and recently Asperger's Syndrome. Certainly you trust what the experts think as you limit your autonomy because of an ability to process large pieces of information over short periods of times. If you understood this was all genetic you would understand that I am not criticize you or myself for that matter. I'm only seeking to better understand so that the knowledge can be shared with others.

I have some more science links and I'll only address further individuals who portray they've watched the videos and/or have other relevant topics of interest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rl2LwnaUA-k

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... l=en&dur=3

I have this form of synesthesia. I can feel kinetic motion as pain, but who will believe me unless I can prove it with science. If I had the correct tools I would do the work myself, but alas I can not.

I have some more science links and I'll only address further individuals who portray they've watched the videos and/or have other relevant topics of interest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rl2LwnaUA-k

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... l=en&dur=3

I have this form of synesthesia. I can feel kinetic motion as pain, but who will believe me unless I can prove it with science. If I had the correct tools I would do the work myself, but alas I can not.

I assumed WP would be a little more open minded to this, but you guys just might be even denser than the majority of NTs.

Go to mininova.org and search "Indigo Evolution" - Not much science in there, but plenty of emotional appeal for you drama queens. ...

It's not magic, it's science.

Indigo children have no special powers, simply because there are no special powers to have. There is no such thing as "magic" and "psychic" abilities do not exist, either.

Anyone who claims otherwise is either a deluded fool, or a deliberate liar.

Chuang Tzu told the story of a frog that lived in a well. The frog was absolutely certain that the well was the entire universe and nothing else existed.

Anyone want to explain the similarities between this:

1. They come into the world with a feeling of royalty (and often act like it).
2. They have a feeling of "deserving to be here," and are surprised when others don't share that.
3. Self-worth is not a big issue. They often tell the parents "who they are."
4. They have difficulty with absolute authority (authority without explanation or choice).
5. They simply will not do certain things; for example, waiting in line is difficult for them.
6. They get frustrated with systems that are ritual-oriented and don't require creative thought.
7. They often see better ways of doing things, both at home and in school, which makes them seem like "system busters" (nonconforming to any system).
8. They seem antisocial unless they are with their own kind. If there are no others of like consciousness around them, they often turn inward, feeling like no other human understands them. School is often extremely difficult for them socially.
9. They will not respond to "guilt" discipline ("Wait till your father gets home and finds out what you did").
10. They are not shy in letting you know what they need.

and this:

Characteristics of people with antisocial personality disorder may include:[citation needed]

* Persistent lying or stealing
* Superficial charm
* Apparent lack of remorse or empathy; inability to care about hurting others
* Inability to keep jobs or stay in school
* Impulsivity and/or recklessness[4][5]
* Lack of realistic, long-term goals -- an inability or persistent failure to develop and execute long-term plans and goals
* Inability to make or keep friends, or maintain relationships such as marriage
* Poor behavioral controls -- expressions of irritability, annoyance, impatience, threats, aggression, and verbal abuse; inadequate control of anger and temper
* Narcissism, elevated self-appraisal or a sense of extreme entitlement
* A persistent agitated or depressed feeling (dysphoria)
* A history of childhood conduct disorders
* Recurring difficulties with the law
* Tendency to violate the boundaries and "rights" of others
* Substance abuse
* Aggressive, often violent behavior; prone to getting involved in fights
* Inability to tolerate boredom
* Disregard for the safety of self or others
* People with a diagnosis of antisocial personality disorder often experience difficulties with authority figures.[6]

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I bet you also can't recall where I said I was better than anyone else, but you just automatically assumed I would like all the un-self-actualized individuals here. Because they/you haven't met certain criteria in life to transcend into the next level you lack an ability to understand other peoples "theory of mind."

I've concluded form many observations that it is almost impossible to engage in rational and logical debate when emotions get in the way. The only loop hole around it is to be further up on Marlow's hierarchy of needs (where, I'm not sure yet.)

I often confuse many people by summing up "complex" conceptual information in simple words. The logic is infallible, but none the less most people fail to see the point.

Dsylexia does have correlation with (emotional) intelligence depending on how you measure what is intelligent and I think it would be absurd to assume that someone would be able to process proper emotinal response with an inability to comprehend what they are reading. The difference between Dyslexia and Hyperlexia is that Hyperlexics understand/comprehend what they read where as Dyslexic individuals do not. Oh the flip side, hyperlexics have more troubles learning words (unless learned auditorily), pronouncing words, verbosity, and other forms of verbal language.

You use the "you don't know me" defense mechanism, but you just can't seem to apply it to me, not true. Now that you have thought about it and it has been brought from your subconscious mind to your conscious mind you can relate our emotional responses. Because I'm more aware of mine I do not allow my emotions to cloud my logic. I'm more aware because my brain is wired differently and this has to do with synthesia (and example would be seeing numbers as colors.)

I posted articles with various authors claiming a link between ADD/ADHD and recently Asperger's Syndrome. Certainly you trust what the experts think as you limit your autonomy because of an ability to process large pieces of information over short periods of times. If you understood this was all genetic you would understand that I am not criticize you or myself for that matter. I'm only seeking to better understand so that the knowledge can be shared with others.

I have some more science links and I'll only address further individuals who portray they've watched the videos and/or have other relevant topics of interest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rl2LwnaUA-k

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... l=en&dur=3

I have this form of synesthesia. I can feel kinetic motion as pain, but who will believe me unless I can prove it with science. If I had the correct tools I would do the work myself, but alas I can not.

Everyone supported the emperor's delusion simply because they did not wish to look like a fool.

The moral of the story is that one should not believe everything they are told, especially if the evidence does not support the claims.

(I really don't feel like waiting for my slow internet to stream just under 63 minutes of video and I gather from others' responses that the videos are not entirely relevant either, so I hope you can understand why I don't feel like watching them.)

Hello everyone,

If you had an understanding of what it means to be an "indigo child" you would know that I do not mean to be rude, but rather efficient with my time.

If you don't believe in the Theory of Evolution then you might as well stop reading as my statements will only upset your emotions and being you do not understand your emotions your mind will subconsciously use the defense mechanism of denial.

I have watched these two videos. They are about synesthesia and do not once mention indigo children. No one disputes the existence of synesthesia. I must say that the two videos together ran for 62 minutes and 42 seconds. I don't think it is fair to try to exclude those who don't watch them from debate, especially considering the videos were of little relevance to the science of 'indigo' children. Indeed, were I of a suspicious nature, I would assume you posted those videos in an attempt to give you an excuse to ignore some who are sceptical of your claim. But I'm totally not a suspicious person.

Now, would you be willing to post something that supports 'indigoness' with science please?

Anything associated with New Age is automatically suspect. The term "Indigo Child" is used to describe autistic children by mothers who refuse to accept the cold, had truth that their children are no perfect. So instead of learning how to deal with their child's condition, they delude themselves into believing that their children are somehow "special."

Indigo children have no special powers, simply because there are no special powers to have. There is no such thing as "magic" and "psychic" abilities do not exist, either.

Anyone who claims otherwise is either a deluded fool, or a deliberate liar. If it were otherwise, there would be an abundance of valid scientific evidence. Instead, all that is available involves testimonials from uneducated, ignorant sources; and so-called "documentaries" from people who have a hidden agenda or a promotional concept to make money for themselves.

It's all a scam.

You could just be a throwback of evolution like the other "Indigo Children."

I can in fact recall statements in which that opinion was expressed. For instance: "Humans evolve and I'm one of the latest in evolution." - what part of that sentence portrays any view that all humans are equal or that you do not believe you are of more value than non-"indigo children"?

Your logic is flawed. How did you derive that feeling from that sentence is beyond me. It is also beyond yourself as it the truth resides hidden in your subconscious. If you did some research you would conclude that I am indeed the latest so that is a perfectly factual statement.

Yes, I do lack an ability to understand other people's theory of mind but that is due to my autism and I personally don't think there's any way to fully change that. We Aspie's can adapt and learn to cope with our differences, sure, but underneath we'll always be autistic, there's no cure or miraculous understanding.

Some aspie's have extraordinary ability to understand others "theory of mind" because they know themselves better. Who needs a cure? There is nothing wrong with any of us.

The "logic" will, of course, seem infallible to you, as it is your logic. That doesn't mean everyone will have to agree with it and it also doesn't mean that everyone else is wrong. If you can't see our points of view then you obviously haven't reached understanding of "theory of mind", despite what you claim.

Rhetorical logic

Just because someone is dyslexic it doesn't mean they can't comprehend what they read, it just means they have difficulty reading it. My cousin is autistic and dyslexic and he has done incredibly well in school, college and university. He still has difficulty reading and writing individual words but he can understand what the context perfectly fine. I also have a friend who is dyslexic and she loves reading. She can comprehend everything she reads, obviously, otherwise why would she enjoy reading it? Dyslexia is not to do with the individual's ability to comprehend, it is their ability to read and write, you should really get your facts straight before you start claiming such things, as you could really offend some people here.

You don't understand what dyslexicia is. It does mean one can't comprehend what they read. Your family/friends sound misdiagnosed to me or they have been fortune to overcome the biological difference and learned ways around it.

Correct me if I'm wrong (which I'm sure you will do) but I wasn't under the impression that synaesthesia had anything to do with logic or control of emotions. I am curious to hear how it does affect these things. I'm sure you do have synaesthesia, I'm not claiming in any way that you don't have it. I'm also not claiming that I know more about these subjects than you do, as it is obvious that I don't. Please bear in mind, though, that I am only 16 and am merely expressing my opinions, which, considering the title of this topic, I assumed you were asking for.

How man senses his world ultimately determines everything about how he perceives it.

(I really don't feel like waiting for my slow internet to stream just under 63 minutes of video and I gather from others' responses that the videos are not entirely relevant either, so I hope you can understand why I don't feel like watching them.)

[b] Fine with me, you just admitted you aren't willing to do research so I'll never reply to any of your uneducated opinions again.

The videos are about synesthesia. They're interesting, but not relevant to this debate. Also, the first one is basically identical to the second, but more concise.

Spend some time on PubMed and similar databases researching the effects of emotional reactions on attention, memory and other components of information processing. You would be surprised. More delicate speech is ultimately more concise because it reduces noise generated by the hearer.

Strangely, I have gotten Born-Again Christians to understand Asperger Syndrome relatively well simply by putting it in terms that they are more prepared to accept. My method of communication is more efficient because I do adjust for sources of noise at the other end.