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Lene
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13 May 2010, 8:36 am

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I dread to be the typical NT, a superficial person who's innately fearful and intolerant of others' differences, and isn't curious or questioning about things and life in general.


That's a bit unfair. Most NTs are not like that.



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13 May 2010, 10:36 am

Lene wrote:
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I dread to be the typical NT, a superficial person who's innately fearful and intolerant of others' differences, and isn't curious or questioning about things and life in general.


That's a bit unfair. Most NTs are not like that.


Ok, I do know of several NTs who are nice to me. However the vast majority I've met in my life have treated me like crap, directly and indirectly.

Why do you think so many ASD people get bullied and abused so much throughout school and into the workforce by NTs, even though they (ASD people) wanted to focus on their work and never intended to do any harm to others?

I hear of so many cases where ASD people get fired and treated like crap at work because they didn't "fit in" socially, even if they could get the job done.

It's a mean joke.



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13 May 2010, 11:15 am

If this works I hope they make it illegal.



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13 May 2010, 11:21 am

Oh, I wish they had something like that here in Idaho... I would love to function on the same level as NTs.



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13 May 2010, 11:25 am

Do what you want. Be happy. Wouldn't do it myself, I like who I am. But I hope it works for you. Caution, though, as most of this TCMS research is still in its infancy.



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13 May 2010, 11:34 am

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My brain is nothing to be tampered with.

Do as you wish, though.


Ditto...would not want anyone messing with my brain. In my experience when ever I try a long term medication or anything (like having my back repaired) I turn out worse than when I started. Ive pretty much accepted the way I am but then again, I have a very understanding husband and wonderful kids and Im happy. So you should do what you think might make you happy but in my opinion you can not become un-autistic...its not a logical assumption. You can however learn social skills and even find ways to help your anxiety. No one is perfect, even if they are neurotypical or whatever you want to call them. Everyone has problems....everybody hurts..sometimes (sorry, Ive broken into an REM song) :P



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13 May 2010, 11:48 am

You better make sure your the last in line, it will give you a chance to look at the people who went before you. This allows you to look for anything unusual that suddenly appeared in their behavior. You do not want to end up with some strange disability like peeing your pants everytime someone turns on the microwave. :wink:



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13 May 2010, 11:54 am

sweeping generalizations are a dangerous way to go, especially when based upon assumptions that could be completely false.

you cannot always tell someone is asd by looking at them, many complain about their disability being dismissed because it isnt visible. well the same can be said for everyone else. neurological disorders arent printed on our foreheads. maybe it would be easier if they were =)

looking at me, i look pretty typical. i function ok at work and socially if i have to. i look NT, you couldnt tell by looking that i nearly had a breakdown last week because we had to buy a car, or that i take 5 minutes at the grocery store often debating between name brand and store brand items to save 15 cents, or buying my current desk involved 5 hours and 4 different stores and my family nearly writing me off in their frustration. those are some things i struggle with because of ocpd tendencies, also invisible to the world at large.

bullies are unfortunately a fact of life. it has nothing to do with their NT status. it has a lot more to do with where they are on the social ladder. its also unfortunate that asd often puts kids on the outskirts of their society, and that location is why the bullies target them. same goes for the overweight kids, nerdy kids, etc. less to do with brain function and more to do with social standing.

i do wonder sometimes whether a persons inability to read social cues contributes to their feelings of bullying. i know my oldest, not diagnosed asd but definitely not NT either, is socially awkward and can misinterpret others behaviors and language to be more antagonistic than it is meant. this has lead to negative reactions from him, increased social awkwardness, and a rejection of some friendly overtures that he misinterpreted.



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13 May 2010, 12:28 pm

Lots of responses here!

Please do remember to keep us all updated about your experience with this trial.

I hope that you are able to participate and that it all goes well for you!


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13 May 2010, 3:06 pm

Good luck, I hope it goes okay and you stay safe. That would be quite interesting for someone to be able to experience the feelings of being an Aspie and then an NT as well...it might not work that way exactly though, I dunno.

I certainly wouldn't want to do it 8O That's just me though :lol:



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13 May 2010, 3:34 pm

I would only be interested in something like this if it could improve the non-social aspects of cognition and memory.

My learning and memory problems are infinitely more debilitating than my social deficits.

If an improvement in my social deficits came along with it....so much the better.



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13 May 2010, 6:43 pm

i have heard about people who are blind their wholes lives then cured going crazy. i can't find an article to back me up on this, but it's something about not being able to make sense of the new input.


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13 May 2010, 6:59 pm

Provided that there aren't any dire side effects, I would totally sign up for this treatment. I'm sorry, but being able to have a girlfriend and build relationships with others trumps any sort of ~*~*AsPiE PrYdE*~*~ stuff.


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13 May 2010, 11:28 pm

Crion, I look forward to hearing how it goes for you. I don't see why anyone would jump down your throat; it's your decision whether you want to be "cured" or not. If you were saying everyone else with AS should get TMS treatment, then there'd be a problem. :D

I don't understand why TMS would have lasting effects on the brain or why it would have positive effects on brain function. TMS is used in psych research sometimes to TEMPORARILY TURN OFF parts of the brain to see what effects that has on function. (As a substitute for the invasive process of putting an electrode on the brain to do the same thing). If you turn off an area and test whether a person can, say, articulate words properly, and the person suddenly starts having problems articulating words, then you've found a crucial area for articulation.

Could someone explain how TMS would have lasting positive effects?

FYI, TMS is NOT the same thing as bio-feedback, which is a process of teaching someone to change their brainwaves. IIRC biofeedback has been shown to help with ADHD, and maybe depression as well.



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13 May 2010, 11:44 pm

Delirium wrote:
Provided that there aren't any dire side effects, I would totally sign up for this treatment. I'm sorry, but being able to have a girlfriend and build relationships with others trumps any sort of ~*~*AsPiE PrYdE*~*~ stuff.


I do not understand how someone could disagree with a person wanting to be normal. I have heard of people with dwarfism, deafness, and of course people with Apsergers hating on those looking to correct their problems. I have lived for forty years on this planet, I have spent most of the time ages 5-40 feeling uncomfortable around people I do not know. I spend so much time indoors I have a vitamin D deficiency just to avoid people I do not know. People feel uncomfortable around me because of how nervous I feel around them. My molar teeth are full of cavities and I will not go to the dentist because I might have to look into his eyes and not to mention him being so close to me with his fingers in my mouth, so I deal with the pain. I have walked away from women who were coming on to me because it made me uncomfortable. I want freedom that normalcy will give me even if it causes some other problem. I see myself a prisoner to my Aspergers with my fears and mistrust keeping me imprisoned.



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14 May 2010, 12:04 am

Still no thanks.

I play with the cards I've been dealt.