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13 May 2010, 6:59 pm

Provided that there aren't any dire side effects, I would totally sign up for this treatment. I'm sorry, but being able to have a girlfriend and build relationships with others trumps any sort of ~*~*AsPiE PrYdE*~*~ stuff.


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13 May 2010, 11:28 pm

Crion, I look forward to hearing how it goes for you. I don't see why anyone would jump down your throat; it's your decision whether you want to be "cured" or not. If you were saying everyone else with AS should get TMS treatment, then there'd be a problem. :D

I don't understand why TMS would have lasting effects on the brain or why it would have positive effects on brain function. TMS is used in psych research sometimes to TEMPORARILY TURN OFF parts of the brain to see what effects that has on function. (As a substitute for the invasive process of putting an electrode on the brain to do the same thing). If you turn off an area and test whether a person can, say, articulate words properly, and the person suddenly starts having problems articulating words, then you've found a crucial area for articulation.

Could someone explain how TMS would have lasting positive effects?

FYI, TMS is NOT the same thing as bio-feedback, which is a process of teaching someone to change their brainwaves. IIRC biofeedback has been shown to help with ADHD, and maybe depression as well.



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13 May 2010, 11:44 pm

Delirium wrote:
Provided that there aren't any dire side effects, I would totally sign up for this treatment. I'm sorry, but being able to have a girlfriend and build relationships with others trumps any sort of ~*~*AsPiE PrYdE*~*~ stuff.


I do not understand how someone could disagree with a person wanting to be normal. I have heard of people with dwarfism, deafness, and of course people with Apsergers hating on those looking to correct their problems. I have lived for forty years on this planet, I have spent most of the time ages 5-40 feeling uncomfortable around people I do not know. I spend so much time indoors I have a vitamin D deficiency just to avoid people I do not know. People feel uncomfortable around me because of how nervous I feel around them. My molar teeth are full of cavities and I will not go to the dentist because I might have to look into his eyes and not to mention him being so close to me with his fingers in my mouth, so I deal with the pain. I have walked away from women who were coming on to me because it made me uncomfortable. I want freedom that normalcy will give me even if it causes some other problem. I see myself a prisoner to my Aspergers with my fears and mistrust keeping me imprisoned.



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14 May 2010, 12:04 am

Still no thanks.

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14 May 2010, 12:43 am

Todesking wrote:
Delirium wrote:
Provided that there aren't any dire side effects, I would totally sign up for this treatment. I'm sorry, but being able to have a girlfriend and build relationships with others trumps any sort of ~*~*AsPiE PrYdE*~*~ stuff.


I do not understand how someone could disagree with a person wanting to be normal. I have heard of people with dwarfism, deafness, and of course people with Apsergers hating on those looking to correct their problems. I have lived for forty years on this planet, I have spent most of the time ages 5-40 feeling uncomfortable around people I do not know. I spend so much time indoors I have a vitamin D deficiency just to avoid people I do not know. People feel uncomfortable around me because of how nervous I feel around them. My molar teeth are full of cavities and I will not go to the dentist because I might have to look into his eyes and not to mention him being so close to me with his fingers in my mouth, so I deal with the pain. I have walked away from women who were coming on to me because it made me uncomfortable. I want freedom that normalcy will give me even if it causes some other problem. I see myself a prisoner to my Aspergers with my fears and mistrust keeping me imprisoned.



Because some people are content with their differences. I'm sure there are
people in this world who would be content in your shoes or mine. I'm not
going to pretend to understand why, I don't even particularily care. Everyone
has different priorities in life and we all have our own threshold of acceptibility.

I won't even suggest that someone else with any physical and/or mental
conditions should wish to be cured irrespective how horrible I would personally
find their condition. All I ask is that others at least understand why I can't accept
my own deficits and don't tell me that I should simply because others with similar,
or even worse, deficits do. I am not them...I don't care what others can and cannot
accept about themselves. I accept them to the point that i'm physically surviving
with them and haven't decided to kill myself yet. But if someone wants to judge
me for not being able to be happy with them or should I say, in spite of them,
that is their affair. Maybe if the right set of circumstances were present in their
own lives, they might not be able to be happy either.

My unique brain has caused the perfect storm in my life for forty years. It is my idiosyncratic hell and the agony of it can never be entirely expressed to another living soul.


Thus....it is pointless and presumptous for anyone else to tell they've
shared this hell with me. It is even worse when they tell me I should be able
to deal with it equinamously. I understand such people are often, if not
always, well-meaning. But it gets to the point where it seems they don't
accept the individuality of each and every person on this earth. Some
people can bear any cross with relative contentment. Others cannot
handle even life's most minor tribulations. As a person who leans
strongly towards deterministic causes for everything within the
human experience, I would be remiss if I judged those who wither
at the slightest one of life's pin-pricks. And I think very few, if any,
other humans on this earth would find my own circumstances
anything close to a pin-prick. Whether they could endure it
with more happiness than I have is uninteresting to me. It
would remain so until they can objectively prove how this
makes them the better person in any "moral" sense.



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14 May 2010, 3:27 am

Does anyone know John Elder Robison's email address?

I'd like to contact him for further info about his experiences with TMS.

Apparently he gained an extra Synesthesia ability (seeing music) 8O

I can't find it on his blog sites.

I dunno who the other participants are so I can't contact them. If Crion happened to be taking part in this same experiment, then it'll be great if he could post in this topic, coz he got invited last year.



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14 May 2010, 4:04 am

I would love to have been born NT. I think it is too late to cure me now though, lol... and i wouldnt want someone doing weird electrical things to my brain.


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14 May 2010, 7:34 am

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i have heard about people who are blind their wholes lives then cured going crazy. i can't find an article to back me up on this, but it's something about not being able to make sense of the new input.


Yup their brain doesn't know how to process visual input so all that happens is they get a huge sensory overload or can't make sense of what they see.

I don't think I want the equivalent of that done to me :eek:


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14 May 2010, 11:38 am

oops, double post



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14 May 2010, 11:47 am

It's your brain, you should be free to do what you want with it.

If social issues are keeping you from doing the things you want to do then I think it makes a lot of sense that you'd want a cure. I'm not pro or anti cure. I think each situation is unique and different. I love the quirkiness of myself and my children, but if it was keeping any of us from something we truly wanted to do I'd go for it.



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14 May 2010, 12:30 pm

Personally I'd be torn because I don't know what is autism and what is me. Is there a me? Anyway, I could certainly imagine taking a cure for anxiety and then leave the rest. It's the anxiety that gets me, the rest is manageable with help and understanding from those close to me.



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14 May 2010, 12:32 pm

Todesking wrote:
Delirium wrote:
Provided that there aren't any dire side effects, I would totally sign up for this treatment. I'm sorry, but being able to have a girlfriend and build relationships with others trumps any sort of ~*~*AsPiE PrYdE*~*~ stuff.


I do not understand how someone could disagree with a person wanting to be normal. I have heard of people with dwarfism, deafness, and of course people with Apsergers hating on those looking to correct their problems. I have lived for forty years on this planet, I have spent most of the time ages 5-40 feeling uncomfortable around people I do not know. I spend so much time indoors I have a vitamin D deficiency just to avoid people I do not know. People feel uncomfortable around me because of how nervous I feel around them. My molar teeth are full of cavities and I will not go to the dentist because I might have to look into his eyes and not to mention him being so close to me with his fingers in my mouth, so I deal with the pain. I have walked away from women who were coming on to me because it made me uncomfortable. I want freedom that normalcy will give me even if it causes some other problem. I see myself a prisoner to my Aspergers with my fears and mistrust keeping me imprisoned.


Those people tend to base their entire identities around being disabled, so to them, a cure might as well be taking away their life force.

Personally, I think it's a sad way to live. If you get cured/treated, you're still going to be the same person.


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14 May 2010, 12:45 pm

OMG! I'm putting you in my enemies list!! !

I'm joking. That's interesting. I don't know if I feel intrigued or excited or sick to my stomach or frightened, but I do know that I feel curious about this. I dearly hope that there are no side effects because it would be terrible if any of the volunteers got hurt. However, the fact that they are testing this on humans suggests that it's probably safe.

Is it a cure? Well, more research will tell and despite my own personal views about autism, I completely support research.

I'm mostly intrigued, though highly doubtful about it. Good luck anyway.



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14 May 2010, 12:48 pm

That would be interesting if it did work. I do sometimes wonder how nts see things.

Removing the left side of my hypocalmus, or whatever, would have stopped my seizures, or at least really reduced them. I didn't do it because it was...I was kind of scared. However, now I wonder what it would have done to my AS. This was before I found out.


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14 May 2010, 12:52 pm

Delirium wrote:
Todesking wrote:
Delirium wrote:
Provided that there aren't any dire side effects, I would totally sign up for this treatment. I'm sorry, but being able to have a girlfriend and build relationships with others trumps any sort of ~*~*AsPiE PrYdE*~*~ stuff.


I do not understand how someone could disagree with a person wanting to be normal. I have heard of people with dwarfism, deafness, and of course people with Apsergers hating on those looking to correct their problems. I have lived for forty years on this planet, I have spent most of the time ages 5-40 feeling uncomfortable around people I do not know. I spend so much time indoors I have a vitamin D deficiency just to avoid people I do not know. People feel uncomfortable around me because of how nervous I feel around them. My molar teeth are full of cavities and I will not go to the dentist because I might have to look into his eyes and not to mention him being so close to me with his fingers in my mouth, so I deal with the pain. I have walked away from women who were coming on to me because it made me uncomfortable. I want freedom that normalcy will give me even if it causes some other problem. I see myself a prisoner to my Aspergers with my fears and mistrust keeping me imprisoned.


Those people tend to base their entire identities around being disabled, so to them, a cure might as well be taking away their life force.

Personally, I think it's a sad way to live. If you get cured/treated, you're still going to be the same person.


It depends how you feel about having the condition. Not everyone sees it as a disability. Even the severe ones, some people have really low social skills but are naturally withdrawn types and don't feel the need to do much socializing, so for them it's kind of like being an eagle who can't swim. It's not a disability because they don't feel the need for that ability.


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