Page 2 of 2 [ 27 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2

ignisfatuus
Toucan
Toucan

User avatar

Joined: 5 Feb 2008
Age: 44
Gender: Male
Posts: 261
Location: Canada

08 May 2009, 5:42 pm

Quote:
Are you diagnosed with AS or just another random bullshitter?


Haha, nice. I have to agree with that sentiment with the myriad of cyberchondriacs trying to clinicalize a few symptoms of shyness. OMGZ, I HAZ AS!! !!1 Puh-leeze. Believe me, this is not something you would choose, I have no idea what the attraction is.

Quote:
If your problems are academic and not social, perhaps you don't have Asperger's.


Er, what? How are the two intertwined, or did I miss that memo? School's chief purpose is imprinting a conformist mould, there is very little intellectual challenge involved, if that's what you're getting at (not that I want to perpetuate the myth that AS and intelligence are linked).


_________________
"The world is only as deep as we can see. This is why fools think themselves profound." - R. Scott Bakker, The Judging Eye


Zoonic
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 26 Apr 2009
Age: 40
Gender: Male
Posts: 572

08 May 2009, 5:50 pm

timeisdead wrote:
Quote:
Are you diagnosed with AS or just another random bullshitter? A lot of AS people have problems with school. Statistics from the UK, Sweden and other countries show that only around 10% can actually manage to get through college and get themselves a job.

Those countries are socialist hellholes that encourage people to leech off of government services. No, I am not formally "diagnosed" but I do have the symptoms of AS. My problems are not in the academic arena and I am currently making a 4.0 average at my new college.


Quote:
I tried getting through school several times and it just can't be done, being me.

What exactly did you have trouble with?


I
Quote:
'm planning suicide around 30. Possibly 35 if I still look young and good at 30.

Can you please stop the victim mentality?

Quote:
I used to have friends. I used to be quite social and I think what really limits me is living in a community of 100 000 people in a distanced part of Sweden.
If lived where there was more things going on, and still had this security I have at home/my family lived there/I had lived there all my life etc, I would go out and do things. However, life is pointless living out in nowhere because there are no interesting people, no openings, nothing.

If your problems are academic and not social, perhaps you don't have Asperger's.


All these self-diagnosed american fuckfaces on YouTube and forums are really damaging those who really have AS by spreading their own misconceptions about the diagnosis. You clearly don't have AS if you can't understand why someone with AS might have problems in school despite having a high and balanced IQ.

Yet, I always felt like my school problems were more because of schizoid and narcistic personality disorders and for over 10 years I refused to accept I had aspergers because others with the diagnosis seemed like neanderthals in comparison. I was placed in a special asperger class in the 8th grade and it didn't help me at all. It just made me even more angry.

I'm most likely never going to know why I have problems socially but generally my problems all come down to the feeling that I hate normal people. I feel provoced by normal social interaction. I always understood it but I never responded to it properly.
I had lots of friends even as a 6-7 year old. The thing was then, and is now, that I was a very angry person. I always lived in my own world despite being outgoing and acting omnipotent.

The feeling I get when I open a school book, or do anything society expects of me, is like some kind of rape. I feel so humiliated by accepting what others view as the "normal" way. It feels like sucking cock and being patted on the head. This is also why I always had a flamboyant personality and put extreme attention in my appearence, in order to not be normal. I was always, always, always an extreme smartass, until I matured and learned to control it, and had to show I was superior. Even as a 5 year old I had this behaviour. In first grade I even called other kids my "slaves" and dominated them mentally until the teachers intervened.

Many people told me to watch American Psycho because supposedly, the guy in the movie was "me". I watched it, and I laughed because I know myself so well and could hear my own monologues almost word by word.

Anyway, I think I have AS still, in a way, but my behaviour certainly isn't standard AS behaviour.



Last edited by Zoonic on 08 May 2009, 5:54 pm, edited 2 times in total.

timeisdead
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 14 Oct 2008
Age: 35
Gender: Female
Posts: 895
Location: Nowhere

08 May 2009, 5:51 pm

ignisfatuus wrote:
Quote:
Are you diagnosed with AS or just another random bullshitter?


Haha, nice. I have to agree with that sentiment with the myriad of cyberchondriacs trying to clinicalize a few symptoms of shyness. OMGZ, I HAZ AS!! !!1 Puh-leeze. Believe me, this is not something you would choose, I have no idea what the attraction is.

Quote:
If your problems are academic and not social, perhaps you don't have Asperger's.


Er, what? How are the two intertwined, or did I miss that memo? School's chief purpose is imprinting a conformist mould, there is very little intellectual challenge involved, if that's what you're getting at (not that I want to perpetuate the myth that AS and intelligence are linked).


They aren't necessarily intertwined. The poster I was speaking to claimed she once was very social but conversely said she couldn't make it in college. Most of my current classes are science related (biological sciences mainly) and I absolutely love them. Schools may be conformist but if you have a quick mind, you can easily pass your classes with relatively little study.



timeisdead
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 14 Oct 2008
Age: 35
Gender: Female
Posts: 895
Location: Nowhere

08 May 2009, 5:55 pm

Quote:

All these self-diagnosed american f**** on YouTube and forums are really damaging those who really have AS by spreading their own misconceptions about the diagnosis. You clearly don't have AS if you can't understand why someone with AS might have problems in school despite having a high and balanced IQ.

Social problems? Yes. Academic problems? Not really unless the classes aren't fast-paced or challenging enough. Who are you to call my AS into question? As a child I fit the little professor stereotype to the core and have always had many obsessive interests. I was obsessed with routine and preferred to converse with adults as opposed to children.



Zoonic
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 26 Apr 2009
Age: 40
Gender: Male
Posts: 572

08 May 2009, 6:01 pm

timeisdead wrote:
Quote:

All these self-diagnosed american f**** on YouTube and forums are really damaging those who really have AS by spreading their own misconceptions about the diagnosis. You clearly don't have AS if you can't understand why someone with AS might have problems in school despite having a high and balanced IQ.

Social problems? Yes. Academic problems? Not really unless the classes aren't fast-paced or challenging enough. Who are you to call my AS into question? As a child I fit the little professor stereotype to the core and have always had many obsessive interests. I was obsessed with routine and preferred to converse with adults as opposed to children.


It's just hilarious that a self diagnosed tard is trying to teach aspies about AS, while demonstrating his ignorance.



timeisdead
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 14 Oct 2008
Age: 35
Gender: Female
Posts: 895
Location: Nowhere

08 May 2009, 6:55 pm

Zoonic wrote:
timeisdead wrote:
Quote:

All these self-diagnosed american f**** on YouTube and forums are really damaging those who really have AS by spreading their own misconceptions about the diagnosis. You clearly don't have AS if you can't understand why someone with AS might have problems in school despite having a high and balanced IQ.

Social problems? Yes. Academic problems? Not really unless the classes aren't fast-paced or challenging enough. Who are you to call my AS into question? As a child I fit the little professor stereotype to the core and have always had many obsessive interests. I was obsessed with routine and preferred to converse with adults as opposed to children.


It's just hilarious that a self diagnosed tard is trying to teach aspies about AS, while demonstrating his ignorance.

More ad hominid attacks I see. What an effective way of teaching me the ignorance of my ways. Bravo and well done! :roll:



Zoonic
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 26 Apr 2009
Age: 40
Gender: Male
Posts: 572

08 May 2009, 7:23 pm

timeisdead wrote:
More ad hominid attacks I see. What an effective way of teaching me the ignorance of my ways. Bravo and well done! :roll:


I just didn't like your tone. You obviously don't understand AS since you fail to see why as much as 90% of the aspies in Europe, UK isn't very socialist btw and doesn't have much special resources for aspies unlike Sweden but the statistics still match the swedish situation, have problems with both school and work.

Maybe your kids will be happy living as hardliner settlers in the woods and being taught there are no real disorders, just lack of guts, character and backbone.



timeisdead
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 14 Oct 2008
Age: 35
Gender: Female
Posts: 895
Location: Nowhere

08 May 2009, 7:27 pm

Zoonic wrote:
timeisdead wrote:
More ad hominid attacks I see. What an effective way of teaching me the ignorance of my ways. Bravo and well done! :roll:


I just didn't like your tone. You obviously don't understand AS since you fail to see why as much as 90% of the aspies in Europe, UK isn't very socialist btw and doesn't have much special resources for aspies unlike Sweden but the statistics still match the swedish situation, have problems with both school and work.


I don't live in Europe; I live in the United States. I just happen to believe that the socialist mentality is exactly why so many of them fail in life. Socialist governments promote dependency and excessive conformity to community standards. Those who don't conform are ostracized and forced into a cycle of dependency. Excessive government intervention creates slaves to the state.



Zoonic
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 26 Apr 2009
Age: 40
Gender: Male
Posts: 572

08 May 2009, 7:34 pm

timeisdead wrote:
Zoonic wrote:
timeisdead wrote:
More ad hominid attacks I see. What an effective way of teaching me the ignorance of my ways. Bravo and well done! :roll:


I just didn't like your tone. You obviously don't understand AS since you fail to see why as much as 90% of the aspies in Europe, UK isn't very socialist btw and doesn't have much special resources for aspies unlike Sweden but the statistics still match the swedish situation, have problems with both school and work.


I don't live in Europe; I live in the United States. I just happen to believe that the socialist mentality is exactly why so many of them fail in life. Socialist governments promote dependency and excessive conformity to community standards. Those who don't conform are ostracized and forced into a cycle of dependency. Excessive government intervention creates slaves to the state.


My american relatives, upper middle class republicans, had to get their educations at a specific age and had to live normal middle-class lives exactly the way society wants them to. If they hadn't taken that path they would have been rejected, at least where they live. No individual options at all. The community standards are everything to them.



richardbenson
Xfractor Card #351
Xfractor Card #351

User avatar

Joined: 30 Oct 2006
Gender: Male
Posts: 13,553
Location: Leave only a footprint behind

08 May 2009, 7:40 pm

what you need is a break, anything will do. something to lift you up a bit, life no matter how awful really isnt that bad my n***a. just remember that



timeisdead
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 14 Oct 2008
Age: 35
Gender: Female
Posts: 895
Location: Nowhere

08 May 2009, 9:19 pm

Zoonic wrote:
timeisdead wrote:
Zoonic wrote:
timeisdead wrote:
More ad hominid attacks I see. What an effective way of teaching me the ignorance of my ways. Bravo and well done! :roll:


I just didn't like your tone. You obviously don't understand AS since you fail to see why as much as 90% of the aspies in Europe, UK isn't very socialist btw and doesn't have much special resources for aspies unlike Sweden but the statistics still match the swedish situation, have problems with both school and work.


I don't live in Europe; I live in the United States. I just happen to believe that the socialist mentality is exactly why so many of them fail in life. Socialist governments promote dependency and excessive conformity to community standards. Those who don't conform are ostracized and forced into a cycle of dependency. Excessive government intervention creates slaves to the state.


My american relatives, upper middle class republicans, had to get their educations at a specific age and had to live normal middle-class lives exactly the way society wants them to. If they hadn't taken that path they would have been rejected, at least where they live. No individual options at all. The community standards are everything to them.

If don't have to conform if you have the creativity. There are many small business owners and entrepreneurs without a college education.