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		<title>By: Alien99</title>
		<link>https://wrongplanet.net/will-behaviors-ever-stop-getting-big-picture-behavior-autism/#comment-1174</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2021 03:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi I got 3 kids on the spectrum.  The best advice I can give you is instinctual parenting. The more I went into my emotions and let them guid me as a parent the happier our family was as a whole. I had to step back from my personal goals for a little bit but the time I invested in my babies and toddlers I am getting back now and then some when they are in school. They go to Montessori school. I super recommend that for autistic HF kids. They like lofe and learning and they are shooting up grades each year. Oldest will probably skip HS and go straight to college at the rate they are learning.  Your kids are amazing you just have to go into their strengths and let them feel their way to their best selves. Emotions are information a whole lot of it that most NTs never get the chance to tap into.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi I got 3 kids on the spectrum.  The best advice I can give you is instinctual parenting. The more I went into my emotions and let them guid me as a parent the happier our family was as a whole. I had to step back from my personal goals for a little bit but the time I invested in my babies and toddlers I am getting back now and then some when they are in school. They go to Montessori school. I super recommend that for autistic HF kids. They like lofe and learning and they are shooting up grades each year. Oldest will probably skip HS and go straight to college at the rate they are learning.  Your kids are amazing you just have to go into their strengths and let them feel their way to their best selves. Emotions are information a whole lot of it that most NTs never get the chance to tap into.</p>
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		<title>By: GreenSky</title>
		<link>https://wrongplanet.net/will-behaviors-ever-stop-getting-big-picture-behavior-autism/#comment-450</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2016 14:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A parent of an autistic child once asked me &quot;Why do autistic people stim?&quot; I told her the same reason NTs stim. She was shocked and said when do we stim?!? I explained its like a good stretch in the morning, a runner&#039;s high, or when you masturbate. When I am stressed out I can just stim. Different stims have different levels of enjoyment. It is our way of coping with life. 

BTW if you want to see a big group of NTs stimming... go to a rave and look for people on xtc.

For me the lights and music = instant stim. No drugs needed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A parent of an autistic child once asked me &#8220;Why do autistic people stim?&#8221; I told her the same reason NTs stim. She was shocked and said when do we stim?!? I explained its like a good stretch in the morning, a runner&#8217;s high, or when you masturbate. When I am stressed out I can just stim. Different stims have different levels of enjoyment. It is our way of coping with life. </p>
<p>BTW if you want to see a big group of NTs stimming&#8230; go to a rave and look for people on xtc.</p>
<p>For me the lights and music = instant stim. No drugs needed.</p>
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		<title>By: Pieplup</title>
		<link>https://wrongplanet.net/will-behaviors-ever-stop-getting-big-picture-behavior-autism/#comment-382</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2016 21:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@akariley I disagree with your opinion completely. I think this, because that Autistics are 3 times more likely to be Abused than neurotypicals. Also, Autism Speaks, are Fear mongering for Financal gain. This is why the Majority of the Autistic Community Hates the Origination, and as a Aspie, once got sued for saying, &quot;It&#039;s NT speaks.&quot;. I can&#039;t agree more with this. #Nothingaboutuswithoutus]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@akariley I disagree with your opinion completely. I think this, because that Autistics are 3 times more likely to be Abused than neurotypicals. Also, Autism Speaks, are Fear mongering for Financal gain. This is why the Majority of the Autistic Community Hates the Origination, and as a Aspie, once got sued for saying, &#8220;It&#8217;s NT speaks.&#8221;. I can&#8217;t agree more with this. #Nothingaboutuswithoutus</p>
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		<title>By: akaRiley</title>
		<link>https://wrongplanet.net/will-behaviors-ever-stop-getting-big-picture-behavior-autism/#comment-283</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2015 17:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My diagnosis has been said 2 - 3 years ago, and i have never been blamed for meltdowns ever since. I think that the fact that &quot;your child has autism&quot; is very sad and we should spread awareness.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My diagnosis has been said 2 &#8211; 3 years ago, and i have never been blamed for meltdowns ever since. I think that the fact that &#8220;your child has autism&#8221; is very sad and we should spread awareness.</p>
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		<title>By: beechnut</title>
		<link>https://wrongplanet.net/will-behaviors-ever-stop-getting-big-picture-behavior-autism/#comment-274</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2015 18:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Much of my diagnosis was hidden from me as a child. My mother didn&#039;t really tell me until a year before she passed. I spent all my formative years in boarding school, and had to nearly fight my own civil war in order to escape from the situation. But all through adulthood it seems that we aspies have to choose our words with care, paying attention to how the other person is likely to hear you. (At least more so than so-called &quot;normal&quot; folks need to).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much of my diagnosis was hidden from me as a child. My mother didn&#8217;t really tell me until a year before she passed. I spent all my formative years in boarding school, and had to nearly fight my own civil war in order to escape from the situation. But all through adulthood it seems that we aspies have to choose our words with care, paying attention to how the other person is likely to hear you. (At least more so than so-called &#8220;normal&#8221; folks need to).</p>
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		<title>By: outlander</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2015 02:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am not sure if everyone sees the value of stimming.  There is a positive side to it and it can be a tool.  I cannot speak for all aspies or how well they can use stimming to an advantage.  My own case is that I ended up on the high IQ end of aspergers, and I was never diagnosed as a child despite all the classic signs were there.  I was examined at the child guidence center but they never figured it out back then and school for me in the 50&#039;s &amp; early 60&#039;s was HELL for me, but I got really good grades from 8th grade onwards (I worked out my own ways by then, though I never got the bullying stopped. I did however end up with a PHD teaching engineering.  While I was useful to my employers, when I became a college instructor and finally professor, I had my own office to cut the distractions and had my employers in industry only given me an office to cut out the distractions, I suppose I could have served them even better.

But I still have stimms and have even devises less obtrusive forms of the ones that work. I use them deliberately now that I have discovered what they do and what benefit they can yield.  If you think of stimms as an attempt to impose stability on the mind with a physical action, (usually if not always a repetative action), then you may see that they are an attempt to stabilize the mind against a barage of distractions either internal or external.  This is precisely what stimms do for me.  My need for them is less these days and I use them to keep my mind on task, I have cultivated ones that are not particularly obtrusive and do not appear all that much beyond the scope of normal.  

Possibly my best example is finger snapping when I am looking for something.  It merely looks like I am impatient about something, but the action and sound of repeated finger snapping keeps my mind focused on looking for an object and prevents my mind from wandering off on other thoughts even pressing ones.  

Exactly how does it work.  I am not sure, but while I am doing it things seem to almost magically appear, often while I am looking right at them and not seeing them.  The finger snapping brings my mind back to task and I remember that is the thing I am seeking.  

Needing something (e.g. a tool) is a distraction to the task at hand.  The overall task is dominating my thoughts and the finger snapping seems to break that dominance for my search efforts to bear fruit.  The primary task at hand and/or a myriad of minor distractions are interfering with the necessary ancillary task of finding the tool.  Frustration rises but the rythmic stimm is like some sort of metronome for regulating the mind and getting it to work orderly.  

Ok, while that is my take on the matter, it suggests that a child having fallen into a stimm behavior is really trying.  Albeit others may see it as distractive, annoying, and inappropriate.  I probably bug some people while looking for something on the shelves in the store and snapping my fingers, but it is minor, and not so wierd to them as if I flapped my hands.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not sure if everyone sees the value of stimming.  There is a positive side to it and it can be a tool.  I cannot speak for all aspies or how well they can use stimming to an advantage.  My own case is that I ended up on the high IQ end of aspergers, and I was never diagnosed as a child despite all the classic signs were there.  I was examined at the child guidence center but they never figured it out back then and school for me in the 50&#8242;s &amp; early 60&#8242;s was HELL for me, but I got really good grades from 8th grade onwards (I worked out my own ways by then, though I never got the bullying stopped. I did however end up with a PHD teaching engineering.  While I was useful to my employers, when I became a college instructor and finally professor, I had my own office to cut the distractions and had my employers in industry only given me an office to cut out the distractions, I suppose I could have served them even better.</p>
<p>But I still have stimms and have even devises less obtrusive forms of the ones that work. I use them deliberately now that I have discovered what they do and what benefit they can yield.  If you think of stimms as an attempt to impose stability on the mind with a physical action, (usually if not always a repetative action), then you may see that they are an attempt to stabilize the mind against a barage of distractions either internal or external.  This is precisely what stimms do for me.  My need for them is less these days and I use them to keep my mind on task, I have cultivated ones that are not particularly obtrusive and do not appear all that much beyond the scope of normal.  </p>
<p>Possibly my best example is finger snapping when I am looking for something.  It merely looks like I am impatient about something, but the action and sound of repeated finger snapping keeps my mind focused on looking for an object and prevents my mind from wandering off on other thoughts even pressing ones.  </p>
<p>Exactly how does it work.  I am not sure, but while I am doing it things seem to almost magically appear, often while I am looking right at them and not seeing them.  The finger snapping brings my mind back to task and I remember that is the thing I am seeking.  </p>
<p>Needing something (e.g. a tool) is a distraction to the task at hand.  The overall task is dominating my thoughts and the finger snapping seems to break that dominance for my search efforts to bear fruit.  The primary task at hand and/or a myriad of minor distractions are interfering with the necessary ancillary task of finding the tool.  Frustration rises but the rythmic stimm is like some sort of metronome for regulating the mind and getting it to work orderly.  </p>
<p>Ok, while that is my take on the matter, it suggests that a child having fallen into a stimm behavior is really trying.  Albeit others may see it as distractive, annoying, and inappropriate.  I probably bug some people while looking for something on the shelves in the store and snapping my fingers, but it is minor, and not so wierd to them as if I flapped my hands.</p>
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		<title>By: YellowBirch</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2015 02:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Throughout this piece I see a person with a desire to &#039;change&#039; or &#039;cure&#039; people on The Spectrum. I really don&#039;t see a need for all or even most of us to be changed. I&#039;ve always known that I was different from others and have struggled with that for over sixty years. I rejected medication and some behaviour modification efforts because I didn&#039;t want to lose myself. Ironically, I self medicated with cigarettes and alcohol for years, trying to escape from the realities of the neurotypical world. 

Those of us who don&#039;t want to change don&#039;t understand why the push to make autistics appear &#039;normal&#039;. Unless we are physical hurting ourselves or others, does our stimming really make a difference? By definition, it is our response and attempt to accept the rest of the world. Is it really important to lose the diagnosis? Is the ultimate goal to appear normal? These desires are always what NTs want so that they can be comfortable around them. They don&#039;t take into account our comfort whatsoever. Do you really realize that we expend a great amount of energy and effort it takes to act &#039;normal&#039;? So many of us need days to recuperate. Tony Atwood described it best with his  &quot;tree in a clearing&quot; analogy. If we compensate for a less mature &#039;social tree&#039;, our other, dominate trees will tire more easily and will not fully function in the way they should. Why try to cripple us? Accept us and allow us to function in our own normal, natural way. We don&#039;t need to change, you need to understand us and accept us for who we are and what we have to offer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Throughout this piece I see a person with a desire to &#8216;change&#8217; or &#8216;cure&#8217; people on The Spectrum. I really don&#8217;t see a need for all or even most of us to be changed. I&#8217;ve always known that I was different from others and have struggled with that for over sixty years. I rejected medication and some behaviour modification efforts because I didn&#8217;t want to lose myself. Ironically, I self medicated with cigarettes and alcohol for years, trying to escape from the realities of the neurotypical world. </p>
<p>Those of us who don&#8217;t want to change don&#8217;t understand why the push to make autistics appear &#8216;normal&#8217;. Unless we are physical hurting ourselves or others, does our stimming really make a difference? By definition, it is our response and attempt to accept the rest of the world. Is it really important to lose the diagnosis? Is the ultimate goal to appear normal? These desires are always what NTs want so that they can be comfortable around them. They don&#8217;t take into account our comfort whatsoever. Do you really realize that we expend a great amount of energy and effort it takes to act &#8216;normal&#8217;? So many of us need days to recuperate. Tony Atwood described it best with his  &#8220;tree in a clearing&#8221; analogy. If we compensate for a less mature &#8216;social tree&#8217;, our other, dominate trees will tire more easily and will not fully function in the way they should. Why try to cripple us? Accept us and allow us to function in our own normal, natural way. We don&#8217;t need to change, you need to understand us and accept us for who we are and what we have to offer.</p>
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		<title>By: Aspiewordsmith</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2015 16:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A child can learn to live independently and even thrive and this means to allow the child to learn to use his or her autism/Asperger syndrome and especially using techniques like thinking out loud which is in effect being your own care support worker. This also is particularly with people on the autistic spectrum that are highly visual thinkers or as Temple Grandin calls thinking in Pictures]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A child can learn to live independently and even thrive and this means to allow the child to learn to use his or her autism/Asperger syndrome and especially using techniques like thinking out loud which is in effect being your own care support worker. This also is particularly with people on the autistic spectrum that are highly visual thinkers or as Temple Grandin calls thinking in Pictures</p>
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