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 Forum: General Autism Discussion   Topic: Disorder?

Posted: 15 Apr 2008, 9:51 pm 

Replies: 41
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And as for the analogy with homosexuality - I don't follow your argument. The way I see it, either AS & homosexuality are both "disorders", or neither of them are. I don't see how you can believe one is & one isn't using the criteria you are using. I'm sorry if I wasn't clear on this-- this...

 Forum: General Autism Discussion   Topic: Paint Colour Led to a Meltdown...

Posted: 15 Apr 2008, 4:50 am 

Replies: 15
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My wife painted the kitchen a drastically different color and it was a week before I could go in there without feeling like the walls were crushing in. The walls that previously were not noticed, but rather taken as read, were suddenly very visible and upsetting.

 Forum: General Autism Discussion   Topic: How is this possible?

Posted: 15 Apr 2008, 4:20 am 

Replies: 9
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My guess? Your eyes are working great, but your brain doesn't process the data. I have great ears, but I always have to ask people to repeat things.

 Forum: General Autism Discussion   Topic: Disorder?

Posted: 15 Apr 2008, 3:58 am 

Replies: 41
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It's explicitly obvious that there's a stark difference between sexual orientation and the most severe developmental disability in children (its "milder" cousin too). One is objectively a difference, the other is a disorder. Whether autism is a disorder or a difference tomorrow depends on whether e...

 Forum: General Autism Discussion   Topic: Disorder?

Posted: 15 Apr 2008, 3:33 am 

Replies: 41
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Dangit, in taking my side, you just showed me that my argument is not, in fact, one that "you can't beat."

Homosexuals were once considered to have a disorder. I don't agree with that, but I am forced to admit that it also interferes with the person's ability to reproduce.

 Forum: General Autism Discussion   Topic: The Autisnob

Posted: 15 Apr 2008, 3:29 am 

Replies: 271
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cas wrote:
I still argue that it affects method of communication, not communication itself. (Like illiteracy.)


It greatly impairs their ability to communicate, even though they have other avenues of communication they can use to compensate.

 Forum: General Autism Discussion   Topic: not understanding what's being said

Posted: 15 Apr 2008, 3:26 am 

Replies: 15
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Happens to me a lot. I have to get people to repeat things often. Sometimes if I take a second, I can listen to what they said again in my short term memory and decipher what was said without having to ask, but I've usually already asked "what?" by the time I figure it out. Haha, Likewise! :wink: T...

 Forum: General Autism Discussion   Topic: Need some advice/help.

Posted: 15 Apr 2008, 3:24 am 

Replies: 4
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I'm not qualified to tell you conclusively that you're an aspie, but it sure sounds like it!

 Forum: General Autism Discussion   Topic: Disorder?

 Post subject: Disorder?
Posted: 15 Apr 2008, 3:20 am 

Replies: 41
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Okay, all of this just came out of this thread , and I will be borrowing some quotes from people who are in disagreement with me to start the fight off right. ;) The suggestion was made that when an autistic person is having difficulties communicating with a neurotypical person, the problem exists o...

 Forum: General Autism Discussion   Topic: Autistics and hippies

Posted: 15 Apr 2008, 3:19 am 

Replies: 48
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Hmm... I can't back any of this with anything other than anecdotal evidence... but I can tell you that I get along extremely well with hippies and Pagans, in part because those cultures are more forgiving of personal differences. Similarly, I get along very well with homosexuals, because they've had...

 Forum: General Autism Discussion   Topic: The Autisnob

Posted: 15 Apr 2008, 2:19 am 

Replies: 271
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Okay, moving this to a new thread, since we are now talking about whether autism/AS is a "disorder" or not. I will borrow some quotes from here in the new thread, but did want to respond specifically to two things here. Deaf people cannot hear (adequately). That doesn't mean that they are "communica...

 Forum: General Autism Discussion   Topic: "Selling out" in order to fit in with NTs

Posted: 14 Apr 2008, 10:55 pm 

Replies: 36
Views: 3,239


Hector wrote:
Developing a willingness to make a compromise with others is an essential part of maturity.


I think this sums it up nicely. There are times where you have to put your foot down.... but most of the time you have to work with the world.

I think "selling out" is a seriously strong term for it.

 Forum: General Autism Discussion   Topic: So not cool!

Posted: 14 Apr 2008, 10:13 pm 

Replies: 21
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The likelihood of abuse is so great that I don't know how you can separate the symptoms. Err, I don't understand. I'm getting two concepts, and not seeing how they connect. Though I gotta say it's kinda comforting to know that I can just SAY that here, and people will get it. :D I've never seen any...

 Forum: General Autism Discussion   Topic: not understanding what's being said

Posted: 14 Apr 2008, 9:18 pm 

Replies: 15
Views: 1,654


I call it my "creative hearing." I was once working in a Tex-Mex restaurant that played Country on the muzak, and one day I heard a song come on with the opening line "Now I lay me down with sheep." (It was actually "..to sleep"). I immediately collapsed with laughter, drawing the complete attention...

 Forum: General Autism Discussion   Topic: The Autisnob

Posted: 14 Apr 2008, 9:10 pm 

Replies: 271
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I don't say obligation, but that if they want to interact with us then they should try, and that it's not true to say "I couldn't understand her so she is communicatively disabled" without first trying to see all the variables and if there's another possibility. She might not be able to hear, but a...

 Forum: General Autism Discussion   Topic: The Autisnob

Posted: 14 Apr 2008, 8:24 pm 

Replies: 271
Views: 22,385


You misunderstood my intent entirely. Didn't misunderstand. Don't agree with the underpinnings of your argument. I said that when communication fails between a non-autistic and autistic person, it's usually because both sides have trouble understanding each other. And I think this is a fallacious a...
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