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Krabo
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30 May 2013, 12:38 am

Yes, that was my intention. And, as it has turned out, it was the intention in the original problem whenever it was first formulated.

Deep sigh. Mark Twain once said, "Past generations have stolen my best ideas." There's a site which gives neat expansions for 1 ≤ N ≤ 100.



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03 Jun 2013, 4:41 pm

The site's been deleted, it looks like...

So we're up to 50 so far amirite?

I can get 51 with the operations used so far. For 53, 55 and 57, I can get it if I use subfactorial (!4 = 9).

51: 4! + 4! + dr(4!)/sqrt(4)
52: 44 + 4 + 4
53: 44 + sqrt(!4)*sqrt(!4)
54: 4! + 4! + 4 + sqrt(4)
55: 4*4*4 - !4
56: 4! + 4! + 4 + 4
57: 44 + 4 + !4


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04 Jun 2013, 9:18 am

An alternate way at arriving at 55...

55: (4.4/4%)/√4 :D

58: (√4/4%) +4 +4
59: 44 + !4 +dr(4!)
60: (!4/√4%) + !4 +dr(4!)



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04 Jun 2013, 12:12 pm

61: (√4)^dr(4!) - dr(4!)/√4
62: 4*4*4 - √4
63: (√4)^dr(4!) - 4/4
64: 4*4*(√4)*(√4)
65: (√4)^dr(4!) + 4/4
66: 4*4*4 + √4
67: (√4)^dr(4!) + dr(4!)/√4
68: 4*4*4 + 4
69: (√4)^dr(4!) + !4 - 4
70: 4*4*4 + dr(4!)


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05 Jun 2013, 9:27 am

71: !4*!4 - 4 - dr(4!)
72: !4*!4 - √(!4) - dr(4!)
73: !4*!4 - 4 - 4
74: !4*!4 - dr(4x4)
75: !4*!4 - 4 - √4
76: !4*!4 - !4 + 4
77: !4*!4 - √4 - √4
78: !4*!4 - !4 + dr(4!)
79: !4*!4 + √4 - 4
80: !4*!4 - (4/4)



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05 Jun 2013, 9:48 am

GGPViper wrote:
71: !4*!4 - 4 - dr(4!)
72: !4*!4 - √(!4) - dr(4!)
73: !4*!4 - 4 - 4
74: !4*!4 - dr(4x4)
75: !4*!4 - 4 - √4
76: !4*!4 - !4 + 4
77: !4*!4 - √4 - √4
78: !4*!4 - !4 + dr(4!)
79: !4*!4 + √4 - 4
80: !4*!4 - (4/4)


What is dr?

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05 Jun 2013, 10:30 am

ruveyn wrote:
What is dr?


Krabo wrote:
Right! The digital root of any positive integer is defined with the floor function, thus

dr(n) = n – 9*|(n–1)/9| where the pipes represent the floor function.

It is a mathematical function and it meets the criteria of the OP, so why not!



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05 Jun 2013, 2:34 pm

GGPViper wrote:
71: !4*!4 - 4 - dr(4!)
72: !4*!4 - √(!4) - dr(4!)
73: !4*!4 - 4 - 4
74: !4*!4 - dr(4x4)
75: !4*!4 - 4 - √4
76: !4*!4 - !4 + 4
77: !4*!4 - √4 - √4
78: !4*!4 - !4 + dr(4!)
79: !4*!4 + √4 - 4
80: !4*!4 - (4/4)


81: √(!4)*√(!4)*√(!4)*√(!4)

With these, 82-91 come easy just by switching signs:

82: !4*!4 + 4/4
83: !4*!4 - √4 + 4
84: !4*!4 + !4 - dr(4!)
85: !4*!4 + √4 + √4
86: !4*!4 + !4 - 4
87: !4*!4 + 4 + √4
88: !4*!4 + dr(4*4)
89: !4*!4 + 4 + 4
90: !4*!4 + √(!4) + dr(4!)
91: !4*!4 + 4 + dr(4!)

Also a much more elegant 88 is 44 + 44. :P

92: 44*√4 + 4
93: !4*!4 + dr(4!) + dr(4!)
94: 4/4% - √(!4) - √(!4)
95: 4/4% - √(!4) - √4
96: 4/4% - √4 - √4
97: 4/4% - dr(4!)/√4
98: 4/4% + 4 - √4
99: 4/4% - 4/4
100: 4/4% - 4 + 4
101: 4/4% + 4/4
102: 4/4% - 4 + √4
103: 4/4% + dr(4!)/√4
104: 4/4% + √4 + √4
105: 4/4% + √(!4) + √4
106: 4/4% + √(!4) + √(!4)


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05 Jun 2013, 3:19 pm

107: 4/4% + 4 + √(!4)
108: 4/4% + 4 + 4
109: 4/4% + √(!4) + dr(4!)
110: 4/4% + 4 + dr(4!)
111: 4/4% + !4 + √4
112: 4/4% + dr(4!) + dr(4!)
113: 4/4% + !4 + 4
114: 4,4/4% + 4
115: 4/4% + !4 + dr(4!)
116: 4/4% + (4 * 4)
117: ((4/√4%) * dr(4!)) - √(!4)
118: ((4/√4%) * dr(4!)) - √4
119: 4,4/4% + !4
120: 4/4% + 4/√4%
121: (4!/√4%) + (4/4)
122: (4^4)/√4 - dr(4!)
123: (4!/√4%) + !4 - dr(4!)
124: (4^4)/√4 - 4
125: ((4^4) - dr(4!))/√4
126: (4^4)/√4 - √4
127: ((4^4) - √4)/√4
128: (4^4)/(4 - √4)
129: ((4^4)+√4)/√4
130: ((4^4)+4)/√4
131: ((4^4)+dr(4!))/√4
132: dr(4!)/4% - !4 - !4
133: (4!/√4%) +!4 +4
134: (4!/√4%) +(√!4*4)
135: (4!/√4%) +!4 + dr(4!)
136: (4!/√4%) +(4*4)
137: (4^4)/√4 + !4
138: (4!/√4%) +!4 +!4
139: (dr(4!)/4%) - !4 - √4
140: 4!*dr(4!) - √4 - √4
141: 4!*dr(4!) - !4 + dr(4!)
142: 4!*dr(4!) - 4 + √4
143: 4!*dr(4!) - (4/4)
144: 4!*dr(4!) + 4 - 4
145: 4!*dr(4!) + (4/4)
146: 4!*dr(4!) + 4 - √4
147: 4!*dr(4!) + !4 - dr(4!)
148: 4!*dr(4!) + √4 + √4
149: 4!*dr(4!) + !4 - 4
150: 4!*dr(4!) + 4 + √4
151: 4!*dr(4!) + !4 - √4
152: 4!*dr(4!) + 4 + 4
153: 4!*dr(4!) + (√!4*√!4)
154: 4!*dr(4!) + dr(4!) + 4
155: 4!*dr(4!) + !4 + √4
156: 4!*dr(4!) + !4 + √!4
157: 4!*dr(4!) + !4 + 4
158: 4!*dr(4!) + !4 + 4
159: dr(4!)/4% + (√!4*√!4)
160: 4 * (44 - 4)