gwenevyn wrote:
I've ducked no question that was posed to me and I see nothing dishonest in doing one's best to avoid forming hasty and absolute opinions. "The scientist is slow to believe and never speaks without modification."
Mephistopheles' flaw? Mine too, but I'm not sure
that 'tis a thing to be proud of. At it's extreme, it
leads to no actions at all.
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On another more orderly forum, I think such a move would have been completely appropriate.
I don't agree. 'Twas a perfectly reasonable conversation,
though off topic. The split that he wished to do SHOULD
have been done - on another forum. The action that he
took simply silenced a flourishing conversation. Of course,
even splitting would have done the same, if he squirreled
the topic away in PPR, so here, I'd strongly suggest NO action
at all.
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Here on WP the off-topic birdwalks in our threads have long gone ignored and accepted.
CHIRP?
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There are both positive and negative consequences of this de facto policy, but it would not seem prudent, to me, to go about modifying it without solidarity among the moderators and a general announcement to the membership.
I think consulting with the site owner would
be a good choice too, but then I forget, MrMark
gets to make up ALL the rules and handle everything
as he pleases on non-technical issues.
I wonder if he really believes this?
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However, I do not think that his choice warranted this level of intervention, nor anger, nor the negative spin it has received in this thread. I think that any individual is owed more respect than has been shown, historically, to our moderators.
They have earned the level of derision
which they are subject to.
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The accusations were heavy and the tone in which they were delivered was ugly. Perhaps the responses you received weren't perfect, either, but I'm not sure what else you expected, going in with swords drawn.
calandale wrote:
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postxf46431-0-60.html
There have been other instances too.
WTF? Since when can't conversations
wander here? This site is getting more
and more restrictive.
This is pissing me off greatly.
How this all started. Just the issue.
I don't think that the accusation had
a damned thing to do with anything but
overmoderating.
And MrMark's oh so polite reply?
MrMark wrote:
Yeah, he can kiss my ass. I and other members cannot discuss the topics we want to because he and others insist on dragging everything into sex or politics. ...
In fact, he doesn't contribute much to this site at all IMO. Now if this were a porn site, he'd be Senior Moderator. Slowly but surely,
he and others have succeeded in dragging this site the way of I2. People have PPR and the Sex..., I mean Adolescent..., I mean "Adult" Forum, to fight and jeck off til their hearts content, but it's not enough for them.
They just can't get enough, can't get satisfaction. They've got to spread it around, find a wider audience..[/quote]
I think that the escalation which this provoked
was warranted. By the time QM showed up, IMMEDIATELY
tossing more insults into the fire, the fight was well on.
They well deserve to have their failures brought up,
again and again, when they prove that they haven't
learned from them.
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Judicious members would do better to aid the moderators in succeeding at their duties rather than setting up situations that cause them to lose face or feel undermined.
Oh, but you see, I AM aiding them. I'm TRYING
to get them to follow the instructions that they
were given.