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15 Nov 2015, 3:40 pm

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Problem can be solved with small 15 kliotons fission A-Bomb
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Boy

Just drop one near ISIS HQ somewhere on uninhabited area to avoid colaboral damage, they need to know that Europe can and will retaliate for their barbarianism.

One great man called Harry S. Truman, proved that this is very successful :mrgreen:



Wait .. hasnt Europe been retaliating with air strikes and all sorts in the last 15 years ?

What is it that you want ISIS to know ?

PS: atomic bombs were made to blow up entire cities .. and to destroy ISIS, youd need to destroy every city they reside in .. which is alot of cities .. the fallout would trigger a nuclear world war .. basically dropping atomic bombs is not a solution.


A nuclear war with whom, a bunch of goats "enthusiasts" , do not make me laugh if they would be hit be a-bomb they would there would be nothing they could do about it for the simple reason that they do not have the ability to retaliate.



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15 Nov 2015, 3:43 pm

Nuking will be an act of war against all affected countries, and all remaining survivors might become potential terrorists, imagine the countless of dead would be if they retaliate using chemicals/gas in hearts of western cities.



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15 Nov 2015, 3:47 pm

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Dropping bombs only creates more refugees, more problems and more anger towards the west. Not the way to go.


But will show ISIS and all religious fanatics who is the boss :D



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15 Nov 2015, 3:53 pm

pawelk1986 wrote:
sophisticated wrote:
pawelk1986 wrote:
Problem can be solved with small 15 kliotons fission A-Bomb
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Boy

Just drop one near ISIS HQ somewhere on uninhabited area to avoid colaboral damage, they need to know that Europe can and will retaliate for their barbarianism.

One great man called Harry S. Truman, proved that this is very successful :mrgreen:



Wait .. hasnt Europe been retaliating with air strikes and all sorts in the last 15 years ?

What is it that you want ISIS to know ?

PS: atomic bombs were made to blow up entire cities .. and to destroy ISIS, youd need to destroy every city they reside in .. which is alot of cities .. the fallout would trigger a nuclear world war .. basically dropping atomic bombs is not a solution.


A nuclear war with whom, a bunch of goats "enthusiasts" , do not make me laugh if they would be hit be a-bomb they would there would be nothing they could do about it for the simple reason that they do not have the ability to retaliate.


You think a dozens of nuclear bombs would only touch terrorists?

The radiation can travel to nuclear nations like Israel.

Given the Israelis have a score to settle with Europe, they would hesitate to press the nuke button.



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15 Nov 2015, 3:54 pm

pawelk1986 wrote:
Neotenous Nordic wrote:
Dropping bombs only creates more refugees, more problems and more anger towards the west. Not the way to go.


But will show ISIS and all religious fanatics who is the boss:D


We tried that strategy, it does not work.



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15 Nov 2015, 3:58 pm

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pawelk1986 wrote:
Neotenous Nordic wrote:
Dropping bombs only creates more refugees, more problems and more anger towards the west. Not the way to go.


But will show ISIS and all religious fanatics who is the boss:D


We tried that strategy, it does not work.


It's worked on Japanese Nazis.



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15 Nov 2015, 4:03 pm

pawelk1986 wrote:
sophisticated wrote:
pawelk1986 wrote:
Neotenous Nordic wrote:
Dropping bombs only creates more refugees, more problems and more anger towards the west. Not the way to go.


But will show ISIS and all religious fanatics who is the boss:D


We tried that strategy, it does not work.


It's worked on Japanese Nazis.


In that time, Japanese Imperials were the rulers of Japan.

ISIS do not represent Middle Eastern governments, hence the latter would react by declaring war on you, and they would retaliate with any means possible.



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15 Nov 2015, 4:09 pm

pawelk1986 wrote:
sophisticated wrote:
pawelk1986 wrote:
Neotenous Nordic wrote:
Dropping bombs only creates more refugees, more problems and more anger towards the west. Not the way to go.


But will show ISIS and all religious fanatics who is the boss:D


We tried that strategy, it does not work.


It's worked on Japanese Nazis.


Irrelevant.

We've spent billions bombing Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia et al in an attempt to put an end to terrorism.

But terrorism is still here.

Repeating the same thing over and over again and expecting different results, is the definition of insanity.



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15 Nov 2015, 4:34 pm

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Let me get this right. We started a war on terror program 15 years ago and the terrorist get bigger and stronger and richer every time ?

Sounds our war on terror needs to come to an end.


I agree that war on terror hasn't worked (if anything it has given them what they want), just pointing out that the ideology is century is centuries old, it root is in sectarianism. As the saying goes tensions have to exist to bed stirred up.

I pointed out the Baathism/Nasserism were failed attempts to deal sectarianism.

Every power that has been in the region be it the Ottomans, British, French, Ayatola, Sheiks have been aware of these issues.



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15 Nov 2015, 4:50 pm

pawelk1986 wrote:
Problem can be solved with small 15 kliotons fission A-Bomb
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Boy

Just drop one near ISIS HQ somewhere on uninhabited area to avoid colaboral damage, they need to know that Europe can and will retaliate for their barbarianism.

One great man called Harry S. Truman, proved that this is very successful :mrgreen:
The atom bombs were dropped because millions upon millions had died, and Harry Truman wanted to prevent more from dying.... tens of thousands have died in the ISIS insurgency, so I think killing tens of thousands of civilians in response would not be the same thing....



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15 Nov 2015, 5:02 pm

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The atom bombs were dropped because millions upon millions had died, and Harry Truman wanted to prevent more from dying.... tens of thousands have died in the ISIS insurgency, so I think killing tens of thousands of civilians in response would not be the same thing....


This is a very good point, people are not good with numbers. People wrongly think the world have become more violent when in reality violence has been in decline over centuries. Any historian would attest to that.

Just go back to the french revolution, or WWII/WWI to compare.

Unfortunately there are various group that try to buck the trend, though it is still not on that scale.



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15 Nov 2015, 5:15 pm

It's already over. Western civilization is falling. We might as well grab our violins and start playing. I may be alone in this, but I think this business in Paris has pushed across an important line. I truly feel these attacks could happen anywhere, including my hometown. We can only be headed for a militarized state (of various degrees in different nations.) But refugees might as well forget about it and we better have our I.D.s ready.
And the U.S. is still going to bomb Syria, like poking an angry dog. Good luck with that.



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15 Nov 2015, 6:56 pm

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It's already over. Western civilization is falling.


Yes. I think while the western world is too busy fighting radical groups China is silently focused on just getting stronger and stronger...next thing you know anyone with international interests or who calls themselves a global citizen will have to learn Mandarin.


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15 Nov 2015, 6:58 pm

I think that it is truly a sad state of affairs when ISIS has been committing atrocities against other Muslims and most Westerners could not possibly care any less..... But when they attack wh***y, there is hell to be dealt out to them.

ISIS should have been neutralized long ago, but public opinion did not care enough to make that a reality. Until now. Lack of empathy for different cultures led to this point.



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15 Nov 2015, 7:01 pm

buddhists do so kill on a religious basis. just look at what they're doing to the minority rohingya in myanmar.



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15 Nov 2015, 7:02 pm

KagamineLen wrote:
I think that it is truly a sad state of affairs when ISIS has been committing atrocities against other Muslims and most Westerners could not possibly care any less..... But when they attack wh***y, there is hell to be dealt out to them.

ISIS should have been neutralized long ago, but public opinion did not care enough to make that a reality. Until now. Lack of empathy for different cultures led to this point.
I agree.