22 Feb 2016, 10:11 pm
Kraichgauer
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23 Feb 2016, 12:22 am
auntblabby wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
in terms of the GOPers he [The Rump] is IMHO the least evil. and Kraich, if you don't mind asking, where did you get the Kraichgauer name?
My dad's people back in the 19th century had come from a region of southwest Germany called the Kraichgau, which during the Napoleonic era had been divided between Baden and Wurttemberg, and is today northwestern Baden-Wurttemberg. The people there are still distinguished from their neighbors to the south who speak Swabian/Alemannic dialects, as the Kraichgauers still speak a south Franconian dialect. It's in memory of where my dad's side of the family had come from.
ah so
a distinguished lineage, no doubt 
By all indication by collective memory in my family, they seem to have been mainly towns people back in Germany (with some ancestors involved in what constituted fraud and theft
), till leaving for the Black Sea region of Russia, then the American west, where they became farmers. They were common people, but people with balls, who weren't afraid to look for something better in frontier societies.
Kraichgauer
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23 Feb 2016, 12:27 am
nurseangela wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
His mother's a citizen. He's a citizen.
Now...if you don't like other aspects of Cruz. That's what the debate should be about.
If people really had any doubts, there would have been a suit bought ages ago---quite possibly by the Democrats!
Now...if you don't like other aspects of Cruz. That's what the debate should be about.
If people really had any doubts, there would have been a suit bought ages ago---quite possibly by the Democrats!
Mr. K., I don't think anyone would file a suit if they thought Cruz wasn't a citizen because of what happened with Mr. Aw and the Left totally beating down the Right. And I don't think the Left wants to open up the can of worms and bring more attention to Mr. Aw possibly not being a US Citizen. How can the Left say anything now anyway? You think they want to come to be know as "Birthers"?
Ghastly!Oh, c'mon, you people damn well know that "President Obama" is an American citizen, born and bred.
And as for the charge that the left doesn't want to "open up the can of worms" about the President's birthplace - I say, bring it on! All that birther bullsh*t has been proven to be just a bunch of racist crap, with no bearing in reality.
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23 Feb 2016, 12:30 am
nurseangela wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
Darn, I have homework to do. 
PS: Still waiting on those people who have Obamacare to give me some numbers; otherwise, I take it that they know its a crappy plan and they don't want the truth getting out.
PS: Still waiting on those people who have Obamacare to give me some numbers; otherwise, I take it that they know its a crappy plan and they don't want the truth getting out.
Why don't you ask your patients?
Because that is the job of Admitting. I treat the physical ailments. That's why I'm asking the people who are supporters of Obamacare and if they don't have Obamacare themselves then they really don't have much say on the matter, in my opinion. I have had personal experience with Obamacare and I think it is an absolute farce just like who it's named after.
And I said, I have absolutely no qualms, as having what coverage that I do beats no coverage at all..
23 Feb 2016, 12:55 am
23 Feb 2016, 1:15 am
Kraichgauer wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
His mother's a citizen. He's a citizen.
Now...if you don't like other aspects of Cruz. That's what the debate should be about.
If people really had any doubts, there would have been a suit bought ages ago---quite possibly by the Democrats!
Now...if you don't like other aspects of Cruz. That's what the debate should be about.
If people really had any doubts, there would have been a suit bought ages ago---quite possibly by the Democrats!
Mr. K., I don't think anyone would file a suit if they thought Cruz wasn't a citizen because of what happened with Mr. Aw and the Left totally beating down the Right. And I don't think the Left wants to open up the can of worms and bring more attention to Mr. Aw possibly not being a US Citizen. How can the Left say anything now anyway? You think they want to come to be know as "Birthers"?
Ghastly!Oh, c'mon, you people damn well know that "President Obama" is an American citizen, born and bred.
And as for the charge that the left doesn't want to "open up the can of worms" about the President's birthplace - I say, bring it on! All that birther bullsh*t has been proven to be just a bunch of racist crap, with no bearing in reality.
No, I don't know damn well. I have a movie about Mr. Aw's life that says he was born in Kenya.
23 Feb 2016, 1:20 am
Misslizard wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
Darn, I have homework to do.
PS: Still waiting on those people who have Obamacare to give me some numbers; otherwise, I take it that they know its a crappy plan and they don't want the truth getting out.
PS: Still waiting on those people who have Obamacare to give me some numbers; otherwise, I take it that they know its a crappy plan and they don't want the truth getting out.
Why don't you ask your patients?
Because that is the job of Admitting. I treat the physical ailments. That's why I'm asking the people who are supporters of Obamacare and if they don't have Obamacare themselves then they really don't have much say on the matter, in my opinion. I have had personal experience with Obamacare and I think it is an absolute farce just like who it's named after.
Tell that to people with pre existing conditions.Before they were denied medical care.Who cares who it's named for,as long as it helps people.
That's just it - it's not helping people. I would like to hear from just ONE person who has been actually helped by Obamacare - just ONE.
You already said you are not in admitting,so how would you know.?Do you work in billing?
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014 ... .html?_r=0
Because I have not heard from one person that has Obamacare that it has helped them. Most of our patients that offer up their health insurance information to me have BCBS mainly or none at all.
Auntblabby, you say that you were able to go to the doctor for the first time in your life, but you are not coming out and saying what you are having to pay (deductible-wise). I had to try to find insurance other than Obamacare when I lost my job because my deductible for Obamacare just for me was $6,000 and for families it was $10,000 or higher. It's no secret what the plans are because there are only about 3 you can pick from depending on whether you are single or have a family. All the plans are right on the internet. What is YOUR deductible?
And most people (including my friend Julia) that I have talked to are going to pay the fine because it is the cheapest way out. Thing is, the fine is going to be raised so that isn't going to be a way to go either. The IRS will be keeping track who has Obamacare and if they don't then it will be taken directly out of their tax refunds.
Still not sure how you would know who it's benefited unless you were in billing.Do you poll the patients?Who is Julia and why would I care??
Quit going around in circles. I asked for specific information on Obamacare deductibles and so far no one has given me any. That is telling me the OBAMACARE SUCKS! and you people just don't want to come out and say how much it bites the big one because it would be going against your great King.
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23 Feb 2016, 1:34 am
nurseangela wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
His mother's a citizen. He's a citizen.
Now...if you don't like other aspects of Cruz. That's what the debate should be about.
If people really had any doubts, there would have been a suit bought ages ago---quite possibly by the Democrats!
Now...if you don't like other aspects of Cruz. That's what the debate should be about.
If people really had any doubts, there would have been a suit bought ages ago---quite possibly by the Democrats!
Mr. K., I don't think anyone would file a suit if they thought Cruz wasn't a citizen because of what happened with Mr. Aw and the Left totally beating down the Right. And I don't think the Left wants to open up the can of worms and bring more attention to Mr. Aw possibly not being a US Citizen. How can the Left say anything now anyway? You think they want to come to be know as "Birthers"?
Ghastly!Oh, c'mon, you people damn well know that "President Obama" is an American citizen, born and bred.
And as for the charge that the left doesn't want to "open up the can of worms" about the President's birthplace - I say, bring it on! All that birther bullsh*t has been proven to be just a bunch of racist crap, with no bearing in reality.
No, I don't know damn well. I have a movie about Mr. Aw's life that says he was born in Kenya.
Oh, I gotta believe everything I see on TV and movies!! !!
23 Feb 2016, 2:56 am
nurseangela wrote:
That's just it - it's not helping people. I would like to hear from just ONE person who has been actually helped by Obamacare - just ONE.
While I don't have their contact details, why don't you ask one of these 50,374 individuals?
Exhibit 5. Total Annual and Cumulative Deaths Averted (Compared to 2010 Baseline)
Source: http://www.ahrq.gov/professionals/quali ... e2013.html
... Silly me... While that's the number of 50,000 lives saved by Obamacare frequently cited in the media (notwithstanding the expected lives saved from increased insurance coverage estimated based on the effects of Romneycare in Massachusetts), it's clearly not valid... As it is now outdated... let's try again with the most recent data:
Source: http://www.ahrq.gov/professionals/quali ... e2014.html
So... while I still don't have their contact details, why don't you ask one of these 86,669 individuals?
Courtesy of the following....
PPACA - aka "Obamacare" aka "Romneycare 2.0" wrote:
TITLE III—IMPROVING THE QUALITY AND EFFICIENCY OF HEALTH CARE
Subtitle A—Transforming the Health Care Delivery System
PART I—LINKING PAYMENT TO QUALITY OUTCOMES UNDER THE MEDICARE PROGRAM
Sec. 3001. Hospital Value-Based purchasing program.
Sec. 3002. Improvements to the physician quality reporting system.
Sec. 3003. Improvements to the physician feedback program.
Sec. 3004. Quality reporting for long-term care hospitals, inpatient rehabilitation
hospitals, and hospice programs.
Sec. 3005. Quality reporting for PPS-exempt cancer hospitals.
Sec. 3006. Plans for a Value-Based purchasing program for skilled nursing facilities
and home health agencies.
Sec. 3007. Value-based payment modifier under the physician fee schedule.
Sec. 3008. Payment adjustment for conditions acquired in hospitals.
Subtitle A—Transforming the Health Care Delivery System
PART I—LINKING PAYMENT TO QUALITY OUTCOMES UNDER THE MEDICARE PROGRAM
Sec. 3001. Hospital Value-Based purchasing program.
Sec. 3002. Improvements to the physician quality reporting system.
Sec. 3003. Improvements to the physician feedback program.
Sec. 3004. Quality reporting for long-term care hospitals, inpatient rehabilitation
hospitals, and hospice programs.
Sec. 3005. Quality reporting for PPS-exempt cancer hospitals.
Sec. 3006. Plans for a Value-Based purchasing program for skilled nursing facilities
and home health agencies.
Sec. 3007. Value-based payment modifier under the physician fee schedule.
Sec. 3008. Payment adjustment for conditions acquired in hospitals.
Source: https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/PLAW-111p ... ubl148.pdf
23 Feb 2016, 7:48 am
23 Feb 2016, 7:51 am
23 Feb 2016, 10:38 am
23 Feb 2016, 1:48 pm
nurseangela wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
Darn, I have homework to do.
PS: Still waiting on those people who have Obamacare to give me some numbers; otherwise, I take it that they know its a crappy plan and they don't want the truth getting out.
PS: Still waiting on those people who have Obamacare to give me some numbers; otherwise, I take it that they know its a crappy plan and they don't want the truth getting out.
Why don't you ask your patients?
Because that is the job of Admitting. I treat the physical ailments. That's why I'm asking the people who are supporters of Obamacare and if they don't have Obamacare themselves then they really don't have much say on the matter, in my opinion. I have had personal experience with Obamacare and I think it is an absolute farce just like who it's named after.
Tell that to people with pre existing conditions.Before they were denied medical care.Who cares who it's named for,as long as it helps people.
That's just it - it's not helping people. I would like to hear from just ONE person who has been actually helped by Obamacare - just ONE.
You already said you are not in admitting,so how would you know.?Do you work in billing?
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014 ... .html?_r=0
Because I have not heard from one person that has Obamacare that it has helped them. Most of our patients that offer up their health insurance information to me have BCBS mainly or none at all.
Auntblabby, you say that you were able to go to the doctor for the first time in your life, but you are not coming out and saying what you are having to pay (deductible-wise). I had to try to find insurance other than Obamacare when I lost my job because my deductible for Obamacare just for me was $6,000 and for families it was $10,000 or higher. It's no secret what the plans are because there are only about 3 you can pick from depending on whether you are single or have a family. All the plans are right on the internet. What is YOUR deductible?
And most people (including my friend Julia) that I have talked to are going to pay the fine because it is the cheapest way out. Thing is, the fine is going to be raised so that isn't going to be a way to go either. The IRS will be keeping track who has Obamacare and if they don't then it will be taken directly out of their tax refunds.
Still not sure how you would know who it's benefited unless you were in billing.Do you poll the patients?Who is Julia and why would I care??
Quit going around in circles. I asked for specific information on Obamacare deductibles and so far no one has given me any. That is telling me the OBAMACARE SUCKS! and you people just don't want to come out and say how much it bites the big one because it would be going against your great King.
You are the one endlessly chasing your tail in circles.You obviously never read imbedded links.Where is your proof it doesn't work??Even if there are flaws in the plan it's better than having no insurance at all.It's helped a relative of mine who is pregnant,otherwise she wouldn't have the funds for prenatal care.But I doubt you believe that.
I find it strange that a supposed health care professional would be against people having affordable insurance.
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