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25 Feb 2023, 1:55 pm

I know they pray and that but what else do they do?


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25 Feb 2023, 2:06 pm

Keep monks happy? Not sure what you mean? They do lots of work. In the past they used to look after orphaned children here in the UK until laws changed preventing Christians adopting or fostering children, so a lot of nuns and others had to stop doing it which gave rise to a severe shortage of foster parents and and parents who would adopt. (The government had to then offer a wage to those who would adopt or foster to try to address this shortage rather than allow Christians to adopt or foster).
But other things nuns and monks do for the community such as look after those who are struggling and visit those who want to know more about Christ.


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25 Feb 2023, 2:09 pm

Yeah I was in a children's home once and nuns used to come there sometimes.


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25 Feb 2023, 2:20 pm

I know this might be off topic, but Catholic nuns remind me of the priestesses known as the Vestal Virgins in Ancient Rome who served the goddess Vesta. Although the Vestal Virgins enjoyed more power and privileges than Christian nuns ever did.

Just as Catholic nuns take a vow of chasity in the name of Christ so too did the Vestal Virgins in the name of their Virgin Goddess known as Vesta (the Roman equivalent to the Greek Goddess Hestia)

Also there are Buddhist nuns too (though they arent really called 'nuns' in their own languages). China's only ruling female emperor Wu Zetian was once a Buddhist nun and there is a popular Japanese legend about an immortal woman named Yaobikuni who became a Buddhist nun and travelled around Japan planting trees and helping people in need.

Some sources:

https://historyandarchaeologyonline.com ... l-virgins/

https://www.learnreligions.com/about-bu ... uns-449595



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25 Feb 2023, 2:28 pm

The main point of religious orders is practising devotion. They might do some menial or charity work as part of that practice, but the point is the worshipping. You are depriving yourself of most worldly possessions and pleasures in order to serve a god or philosophy that views possessions with suspicion.

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In the past they used to look after orphaned children here in the UK until laws changed preventing Christians adopting or fostering children, so a lot of nuns and others had to stop doing it which gave rise to a severe shortage of foster parents and and parents who would adopt. (The government had to then offer a wage to those who would adopt or foster to try to address this shortage rather than allow Christians to adopt or foster).

I think this is confused. There is no law preventing Christians from adopting or fostering, for obvious reasons. In fact, the law explicitly forbids that sort of discrimination. However, in 2007 the law was changed so that publicly-funded adoption agencies weren't allowed to discriminate on the grounds of sexuality. Fundamentalist adoption agencies complained that being homophobic was part of their religious beliefs, and some decided to stop accepting public money rather than put children with same-sex couples. Christians can still adopt.



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25 Feb 2023, 2:41 pm

DeathFlowerKing wrote:
I know this might be off topic, but Catholic nuns remind me of the priestesses known as the Vestal Virgins in Ancient Rome who served the goddess Vesta. Although the Vestal Virgins enjoyed more power and privileges than Christian nuns ever did.

Just as Catholic nuns take a vow of chasity in the name of Christ so too did the Vestal Virgins in the name of their Virgin Goddess known as Vesta (the Roman equivalent to the Greek Goddess Hestia)

Also there are Buddhist nuns too (though they arent really called 'nuns' in their own languages). China's only ruling female emperor Wu Zetian was once a Buddhist nun and there is a popular Japanese legend about an immortal woman named Yaobikuni who became a Buddhist nun and travelled around Japan planting trees and helping people in need.

Some sources:

https://historyandarchaeologyonline.com ... l-virgins/

https://www.learnreligions.com/about-bu ... uns-449595


not off-topic, since according to some interpretations, vestal virgins' vows of chastity (among other things) influenced the incorporation of such vows into catholic orders.
https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/cgi/vie ... diaantiqua

The incorporation of this Roman element into the church structure is only a small part of a larger, well-documented Romanization of Christianity. Although the church decried pagan cults, many of their ideas would be incorporated into the Christian church in the centuries that succeeded the death of Christ. The cult of Vesta was merely one of the many Roman elements which would affect the dogma, although perhaps their legacy is one of the greatest and most long-standing. Their virgin sisters still in existence today within the walls of convents retain much of a role defined thousands of years ago by women who dedicated their lives to preserving the sacred flame of Vesta and the welfare of the Roman state.


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25 Feb 2023, 2:54 pm

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I know this might be off topic, but Catholic nuns remind me of the priestesses known as the Vestal Virgins in Ancient Rome who served the goddess Vesta. Although the Vestal Virgins enjoyed more power and privileges than Christian nuns ever did.

Just as Catholic nuns take a vow of chasity in the name of Christ so too did the Vestal Virgins in the name of their Virgin Goddess known as Vesta (the Roman equivalent to the Greek Goddess Hestia)

Also there are Buddhist nuns too (though they arent really called 'nuns' in their own languages). China's only ruling female emperor Wu Zetian was once a Buddhist nun and there is a popular Japanese legend about an immortal woman named Yaobikuni who became a Buddhist nun and travelled around Japan planting trees and helping people in need.

Some sources:

https://historyandarchaeologyonline.com ... l-virgins/

https://www.learnreligions.com/about-bu ... uns-449595


not off-topic, since according to some interpretations, vestal virgins' vows of chastity (among other things) influenced the incorporation of such vows into catholic orders.
https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/cgi/vie ... diaantiqua

The incorporation of this Roman element into the church structure is only a small part of a larger, well-documented Romanization of Christianity. Although the church decried pagan cults, many of their ideas would be incorporated into the Christian church in the centuries that succeeded the death of Christ. The cult of Vesta was merely one of the many Roman elements which would affect the dogma, although perhaps their legacy is one of the greatest and most long-standing. Their virgin sisters still in existence today within the walls of convents retain much of a role defined thousands of years ago by women who dedicated their lives to preserving the sacred flame of Vesta and the welfare of the Roman state.


Interesting. So I guess my hunch was right on that one. :)



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25 Feb 2023, 2:56 pm

Yes it is very interesting. Thank you everyone


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25 Feb 2023, 3:02 pm

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Chuckster wrote:
DeathFlowerKing wrote:
I know this might be off topic, but Catholic nuns remind me of the priestesses known as the Vestal Virgins in Ancient Rome who served the goddess Vesta. Although the Vestal Virgins enjoyed more power and privileges than Christian nuns ever did.

Just as Catholic nuns take a vow of chasity in the name of Christ so too did the Vestal Virgins in the name of their Virgin Goddess known as Vesta (the Roman equivalent to the Greek Goddess Hestia)

Also there are Buddhist nuns too (though they arent really called 'nuns' in their own languages). China's only ruling female emperor Wu Zetian was once a Buddhist nun and there is a popular Japanese legend about an immortal woman named Yaobikuni who became a Buddhist nun and travelled around Japan planting trees and helping people in need.

Some sources:

https://historyandarchaeologyonline.com ... l-virgins/

https://www.learnreligions.com/about-bu ... uns-449595


not off-topic, since according to some interpretations, vestal virgins' vows of chastity (among other things) influenced the incorporation of such vows into catholic orders.
https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/cgi/vie ... diaantiqua

The incorporation of this Roman element into the church structure is only a small part of a larger, well-documented Romanization of Christianity. Although the church decried pagan cults, many of their ideas would be incorporated into the Christian church in the centuries that succeeded the death of Christ. The cult of Vesta was merely one of the many Roman elements which would affect the dogma, although perhaps their legacy is one of the greatest and most long-standing. Their virgin sisters still in existence today within the walls of convents retain much of a role defined thousands of years ago by women who dedicated their lives to preserving the sacred flame of Vesta and the welfare of the Roman state.


Interesting. So I guess my hunch was right on that one. :)


yep :)

and those other nuns you mention,in Buddhism for example, were quite useful, i'd say. the legend says that wing chun, among other styles, was created by a Buddhist nun for self-defense.

Wing Chun is one of the world's youngest Kung Fu styles and the only one founded by a woman. That woman was Ng Mui (or Ng Mei), a Buddhist nun of China's famous Shaolin Temple. Ng Mui was recognised as one of the top five martial artists in China during the early 1700s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ng_Mui


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25 Feb 2023, 3:15 pm

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Yes it is very interesting. Thank you everyone

st hildegard was quite prolific, composed some awesome monophonic music, among many other things.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6qFCYRQKVA
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hildegard_of_Bingen


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25 Feb 2023, 3:55 pm

Chuckster wrote:
DeathFlowerKing wrote:
Chuckster wrote:
DeathFlowerKing wrote:
I know this might be off topic, but Catholic nuns remind me of the priestesses known as the Vestal Virgins in Ancient Rome who served the goddess Vesta. Although the Vestal Virgins enjoyed more power and privileges than Christian nuns ever did.

Just as Catholic nuns take a vow of chasity in the name of Christ so too did the Vestal Virgins in the name of their Virgin Goddess known as Vesta (the Roman equivalent to the Greek Goddess Hestia)

Also there are Buddhist nuns too (though they arent really called 'nuns' in their own languages). China's only ruling female emperor Wu Zetian was once a Buddhist nun and there is a popular Japanese legend about an immortal woman named Yaobikuni who became a Buddhist nun and travelled around Japan planting trees and helping people in need.

Some sources:

https://historyandarchaeologyonline.com ... l-virgins/

https://www.learnreligions.com/about-bu ... uns-449595


not off-topic, since according to some interpretations, vestal virgins' vows of chastity (among other things) influenced the incorporation of such vows into catholic orders.
https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/cgi/vie ... diaantiqua

The incorporation of this Roman element into the church structure is only a small part of a larger, well-documented Romanization of Christianity. Although the church decried pagan cults, many of their ideas would be incorporated into the Christian church in the centuries that succeeded the death of Christ. The cult of Vesta was merely one of the many Roman elements which would affect the dogma, although perhaps their legacy is one of the greatest and most long-standing. Their virgin sisters still in existence today within the walls of convents retain much of a role defined thousands of years ago by women who dedicated their lives to preserving the sacred flame of Vesta and the welfare of the Roman state.


Interesting. So I guess my hunch was right on that one. :)


yep :)

and those other nuns you mention,in Buddhism for example, were quite useful, i'd say. the legend says that wing chun, among other styles, was created by a Buddhist nun for self-defense.

Wing Chun is one of the world's youngest Kung Fu styles and the only one founded by a woman. That woman was Ng Mui (or Ng Mei), a Buddhist nun of China's famous Shaolin Temple. Ng Mui was recognised as one of the top five martial artists in China during the early 1700s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ng_Mui


Wow that is really cool! 8)

Well have you ever heard the myth of immortal nun known as Yaobikuni? Here's an interesting article about her on Yokai.com

I've even played a few video games and seen a couple of anime that referenced her. And if this article is accurate supposedly there are some ancient temple trees found around Japan that were said to have been planted by the immortal nun herself. :)

https://yokai.com/yaobikuni/



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25 Feb 2023, 4:01 pm

Historically, nuns have been Nurses, Teacher's, Cared for orphans and provided Community Service to the poor and disadvantaged...among other things.



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25 Feb 2023, 4:08 pm

I like to imagine NEETs in the past became monks and nuns for some peace and quiet. Now we have video games and movies to distract us.



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25 Feb 2023, 4:25 pm

DeathFlowerKing wrote:
Chuckster wrote:
DeathFlowerKing wrote:
Chuckster wrote:
DeathFlowerKing wrote:
I know this might be off topic, but Catholic nuns remind me of the priestesses known as the Vestal Virgins in Ancient Rome who served the goddess Vesta. Although the Vestal Virgins enjoyed more power and privileges than Christian nuns ever did.

Just as Catholic nuns take a vow of chasity in the name of Christ so too did the Vestal Virgins in the name of their Virgin Goddess known as Vesta (the Roman equivalent to the Greek Goddess Hestia)

Also there are Buddhist nuns too (though they arent really called 'nuns' in their own languages). China's only ruling female emperor Wu Zetian was once a Buddhist nun and there is a popular Japanese legend about an immortal woman named Yaobikuni who became a Buddhist nun and travelled around Japan planting trees and helping people in need.

Some sources:

https://historyandarchaeologyonline.com ... l-virgins/

https://www.learnreligions.com/about-bu ... uns-449595


not off-topic, since according to some interpretations, vestal virgins' vows of chastity (among other things) influenced the incorporation of such vows into catholic orders.
https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/cgi/vie ... diaantiqua

The incorporation of this Roman element into the church structure is only a small part of a larger, well-documented Romanization of Christianity. Although the church decried pagan cults, many of their ideas would be incorporated into the Christian church in the centuries that succeeded the death of Christ. The cult of Vesta was merely one of the many Roman elements which would affect the dogma, although perhaps their legacy is one of the greatest and most long-standing. Their virgin sisters still in existence today within the walls of convents retain much of a role defined thousands of years ago by women who dedicated their lives to preserving the sacred flame of Vesta and the welfare of the Roman state.


Interesting. So I guess my hunch was right on that one. :)


yep :)

and those other nuns you mention,in Buddhism for example, were quite useful, i'd say. the legend says that wing chun, among other styles, was created by a Buddhist nun for self-defense.

Wing Chun is one of the world's youngest Kung Fu styles and the only one founded by a woman. That woman was Ng Mui (or Ng Mei), a Buddhist nun of China's famous Shaolin Temple. Ng Mui was recognised as one of the top five martial artists in China during the early 1700s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ng_Mui


Wow that is really cool! 8)

Well have you ever heard the myth of immortal nun known as Yaobikuni? Here's an interesting article about her on Yokai.com

I've even played a few video games and seen a couple of anime that referenced her. And if this article is accurate supposedly there are some ancient temple trees found around Japan that were said to have been planted by the immortal nun herself. :)

https://yokai.com/yaobikuni/


Nope, I had no idea. It's very cool :D Reading about it now.


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25 Feb 2023, 5:49 pm

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yep :)

and those other nuns you mention,in Buddhism for example, were quite useful, i'd say. the legend says that wing chun, among other styles, was created by a Buddhist nun for self-defense.

Wing Chun is one of the world's youngest Kung Fu styles and the only one founded by a woman. That woman was Ng Mui (or Ng Mei), a Buddhist nun of China's famous Shaolin Temple. Ng Mui was recognised as one of the top five martial artists in China during the early 1700s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ng_Mui


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25 Feb 2023, 5:59 pm

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yep :)

and those other nuns you mention,in Buddhism for example, were quite useful, i'd say. the legend says that wing chun, among other styles, was created by a Buddhist nun for self-defense.

Wing Chun is one of the world's youngest Kung Fu styles and the only one founded by a woman. That woman was Ng Mui (or Ng Mei), a Buddhist nun of China's famous Shaolin Temple. Ng Mui was recognised as one of the top five martial artists in China during the early 1700s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ng_Mui


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dude that's hilarious :lol: , but we're talking about ancient china, so something along these lines:

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