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29 May 2015, 12:35 am
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29 May 2015, 1:31 pm
Oldavid wrote:
No. Just do what you always do. Ignore anything inconvenient and re-assert your prejudices as if they had never been (or could never be) challenged.
it's ironic that you're telling other people this is what they're doing while doing it yourself. 
29 May 2015, 7:17 pm
Fugu wrote:
Oldavid wrote:
No. Just do what you always do. Ignore anything inconvenient and re-assert your prejudices as if they had never been (or could never be) challenged.
it's ironic that you're telling other people this is what they're doing while doing it yourself. Their usual tactic is to simply ignore such refutations and "counter" with other vague, irrelevant accusations or assertions. It is a rhetorical tactic that is intended to just annoy or heckle your opponents into complete exasperation; nothing whatsoever to do with any genuine inquiry. It's something I encountered quite often at university if one ever tried to dispute any of the claims of the Maoist, Alinskyite "social reformers" of the day, although it took me a fair while to identify it as a purposeful tactic.
That said, you might accept that I don't re-refute every silly assertion every time it is re-presented.
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29 May 2015, 8:29 pm
Oldavid wrote:
Fugu wrote:
Oldavid wrote:
No. Just do what you always do. Ignore anything inconvenient and re-assert your prejudices as if they had never been (or could never be) challenged.
it's ironic that you're telling other people this is what they're doing while doing it yourself. Their usual tactic is to simply ignore such refutations and "counter" with other vague, irrelevant accusations or assertions. It is a rhetorical tactic that is intended to just annoy or heckle your opponents into complete exasperation; nothing whatsoever to do with any genuine inquiry. It's something I encountered quite often at university if one ever tried to dispute any of the claims of the Maoist, Alinskyite "social reformers" of the day, although it took me a fair while to identify it as a purposeful tactic.
That said, you might accept that I don't re-refute every silly assertion every time it is re-presented.
Hilariously, you don't even realise that you have just proved Fugu's point.
29 May 2015, 10:59 pm
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30 May 2015, 12:34 am
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30 May 2015, 9:41 am
Oldavid wrote:
The_Walrus wrote:
Oldavid wrote:
Janissy wrote:
They have genetic material and they attach to cells and inject that genetic material. That this injection happens mechanically rather than through any actual action on their part just adds to the confusion.
If that were so then it automatically demands that viruses are preceded by other irreducibly complex organisms that they can parasitise.Not irreducibly complex (nothing in Biology is irreducibly complex), but yes, it seems likely that cell-like protobionts formed before the precursors to viruses.
That's simple. That's because Biology
is the science of life and not life itself.
Biology only measures stuff that can be
reduced with a scientific method
by way of material reductionism.
Not all of life can be reduced to that;
by the scientific method to consistently
observable and measurable phenomenon;
And OMG; that's just common sense, as science doesn't
even have the full process of why folks get depressed 'figured out'.
To me it is simple;
Depression is a sign
of 'sick' ways of living;
A 'sign' from the God of Nature.
Anyone who doesn't feel good; most anyone;
is simply not living by the laws of the All Natural GOD;
And honestly; that's why most folks come to the Wrong Planet;
as they are simply lost from the rules of the God of Nature; and
caught
in the
illusions
of a society
gone truly mad,
in many sitting still,
non-flesh and blood,
connecting to each
other, ways
of
life.
Planets can not 'survive',
if they do not constantly
move and humans
suffer for
the lack
of that.
It's as simple as any
social animal foraging
for existence. To move
is to live; to sit still
is to
die;
same stuff;
different
ways of
screwing
up...
30 May 2015, 9:55 pm
