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Are we headed toward World War 3?
Yes, and it will happen very soon. 22%  22%  [ 8 ]
Yes, but it won't happen for a few more years. 31%  31%  [ 11 ]
Yes, but it won't happen for a long time. 8%  8%  [ 3 ]
No, it will never happen. 17%  17%  [ 6 ]
Other, please explain. 22%  22%  [ 8 ]
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05 Apr 2015, 11:20 am

The question is: could the main industrialized powers start fighting each other? The main powers being Russia, the EU, the USA, China, Japan. And emerging industrialized countries like India.

Factions in the third world could slaughter each other to their hearts' delight it wouldn't be "a world war". The current wars in the middle east steal the headlines, but arent likely to cause a world war ( ie a war waged by the superpowers directly against other super powers).

But the current crises in the Ukraine is a possible flash point between powerful industrialized countries: NATO/EU, and the USA, on one hand, and the Putin on the other. Its a territorial dispute right there in Europe. A little undiplomatic diplomacy-and bang- the superpowers could start shooting at each other.

Niether China nor the USA want a war with the other. Both are eager to keep on trading with the other. Conceivably the two Korean tails could wag the two dogs (their respective super power allies). North Korea could invade the South drawing both the US and China in.



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05 Apr 2015, 1:15 pm

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The question is: could the main industrialized powers start fighting each other? The main powers being Russia, the EU, the USA, China, Japan. And emerging industrialized countries like India.

Factions in the third world could slaughter each other to their hearts' delight it wouldn't be "a world war". The current wars in the middle east steal the headlines, but arent likely to cause a world war ( ie a war waged by the superpowers directly against other super powers).

But the current crises in the Ukraine is a possible flash point between powerful industrialized countries: NATO/EU, and the USA, on one hand, and the Putin on the other. Its a territorial dispute right there in Europe. A little undiplomatic diplomacy-and bang- the superpowers could start shooting at each other.

Niether China nor the USA want a war with the other. Both are eager to keep on trading with the other. Conceivably the two Korean tails could wag the two dogs (their respective super power allies). North Korea could invade the South drawing both the US and China in.


If North Korea were to make such a move, I suspect that would be too much for even China. From what I gather from CNN, Kim is really becoming an irritant to his Chinese masters as it is.


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05 Apr 2015, 2:46 pm

what about china empoaching on everyones borders cause they claim all the seas. or the disputes with japan continuing to escalate. japan now building a offensive military force etc. theres still taiwan too.

china may not want a war but they are also trying to push the line as far as they can't whos to say they don't mis read the us/japan/philippines/vietnam s view of where the line is and go over it.

same for russia vs nato. that's what will start it is two leaders different view points of where the thin line is and one going over it because of this.



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08 Apr 2015, 4:34 am

There has to be some excuse for all that spending.

Half of all government spending, Defense.

The clock is running out, we are eighteen trillion overdrawn, and the War Babies want their Social Security.

There has to be some way to keep Defense Fraud going, Cuba could invade us!

It was the US that knocked over Yugoslavia, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Yemen, and founded AQ and IS as an excuse.

The EU was not paying off NATO at 3%, so they have to be forced to.



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13 Apr 2015, 3:09 pm

Inventor wrote:
There has to be some excuse for all that spending.

Half of all government spending, Defense.

The clock is running out, we are eighteen trillion overdrawn, and the War Babies want their Social Security.

There has to be some way to keep Defense Fraud going, Cuba could invade us!

It was the US that knocked over Yugoslavia, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Yemen, and founded AQ and IS as an excuse.

The EU was not paying off NATO at 3%, so they have to be forced to.





Oh no no no, no No....it's Russia and their evil empire and all those evil Russian people that could invade us!!
I hate my government.

There is a theme here. Any country that refuses to go along with the nwo is singled out for attack. They want your country on a centralized bank system (lose your sovereignty) and if you refuse......well look at the situation we are pressuring Russia into. The US and Israhell are the worlds biggest bullies.



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13 Apr 2015, 3:19 pm

I think that we should all panic and give up because of overactive imaginations.



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13 Apr 2015, 4:46 pm

Whathappened wrote:
Inventor wrote:
There has to be some excuse for all that spending.

Half of all government spending, Defense.

The clock is running out, we are eighteen trillion overdrawn, and the War Babies want their Social Security.

There has to be some way to keep Defense Fraud going, Cuba could invade us!

It was the US that knocked over Yugoslavia, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Yemen, and founded AQ and IS as an excuse.

The EU was not paying off NATO at 3%, so they have to be forced to.





Oh no no no, no No....it's Russia and their evil empire and all those evil Russian people that could invade us!!
I hate my government.

There is a theme here. Any country that refuses to go along with the nwo is singled out for attack. They want your country on a centralized bank system (lose your sovereignty) and if you refuse......well look at the situation we are pressuring Russia into. The US and Israhell are the worlds biggest bullies.


yep cause russia and china aren't currently always bullying other nations. nope just the us. russa is just nicely asking others to do what they want with their military, and china is just nicely telling others to stay out of their ocean or be attacked. yep nothing bad going on there. those silly baltic nations should just rejoin the soviet union eh, i mean russia
they just don't understand whats best for them :roll:

read a few articles and videos apparently there's a huge anti american attitude going on in russia and they see us all as the enemy, going into or already into a another cold war.

no one pressured russia to attack ukraine, or threaten other nations. if anything russia is like look we have the gas you need so shut up and take it up the ass. they got themselves into this mess. just like the us did with Iraq.



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13 Apr 2015, 5:47 pm

You've got it all backwards. Russia is bolstering up their anti-American rhetoric out of a collective national self preservation. America is the enemy, as has already been pointed out. Wouldn't you defend yourself against an enemy, trying to attack you? Maybe you wouldn't... that's your business.

Ukraine is at the forefront of doing Israel and USA's bidding, playing along and touting the lines of globalization and they've given up their sovereignty already, Russia hasn't. Putin rightly recognizes the growing cancer of globalization and economic tyrrany that imposes. Putin is the best thing that's happened for Russia in it's long, recent tragic history. Russians love him and feel a strong sense of nationalism. There is nothing wrong with that, and it is a good thing for Russia, not as the self-deprecating neo liberals would guilt you into believing. Liberalism is a cancer eating away at the world -- it is inherently false because it goes directly against what it says it does. Hooray for Putin and cheers to Russia for fighting tyrrany wherever it may exist. Russia now stands for what America used to stand for...freedom.

Perhaps you should educate yourself on what's really going on, instead of watching the lies the mainstream media wants you to believe.



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14 Apr 2015, 8:17 am

It ate another post.



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14 Apr 2015, 10:18 am

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It ate another post.


It must be smokin' dope and have the munchies real bad or somethin' :lol: :lol:



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14 Apr 2015, 1:42 pm

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You've got it all backwards. Russia is bolstering up their anti-American rhetoric out of a collective national self preservation. America is the enemy, as has already been pointed out. Wouldn't you defend yourself against an enemy, trying to attack you? Maybe you wouldn't... that's your business.

Ukraine is at the forefront of doing Israel and USA's bidding, playing along and touting the lines of globalization and they've given up their sovereignty already, Russia hasn't. Putin rightly recognizes the growing cancer of globalization and economic tyrrany that imposes. Putin is the best thing that's happened for Russia in it's long, recent tragic history. Russians love him and feel a strong sense of nationalism. There is nothing wrong with that, and it is a good thing for Russia, not as the self-deprecating neo liberals would guilt you into believing. Liberalism is a cancer eating away at the world -- it is inherently false because it goes directly against what it says it does. Hooray for Putin and cheers to Russia for fighting tyrrany wherever it may exist. Russia now stands for what America used to stand for...freedom.

Perhaps you should educate yourself on what's really going on, instead of watching the lies the mainstream media wants you to believe.


take it your russian? we'll never going see eye to eye. russia doesn't stand for freedom. the west doesn't need to be liberated ok? so russia can takes its guns and go back home. how about they deal with china and its globalism.



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14 Apr 2015, 9:07 pm

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I doubt that there will be a global war within my lifetime.

However, I am certain that any moment now, some nutter is going to make a long post in this thread about prophesies and the wrath of his or her 'god' being poured out upon all of humanity for whatever 'sins' the poster feels are the most heinous at the time.


Then I hope you live forever. ;)



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16 Apr 2015, 12:55 am

sly279 wrote:
Whathappened wrote:
You've got it all backwards. Russia is bolstering up their anti-American rhetoric out of a collective national self preservation. America is the enemy, as has already been pointed out. Wouldn't you defend yourself against an enemy, trying to attack you? Maybe you wouldn't... that's your business.

Ukraine is at the forefront of doing Israel and USA's bidding, playing along and touting the lines of globalization and they've given up their sovereignty already, Russia hasn't. Putin rightly recognizes the growing cancer of globalization and economic tyrrany that imposes. Putin is the best thing that's happened for Russia in it's long, recent tragic history. Russians love him and feel a strong sense of nationalism. There is nothing wrong with that, and it is a good thing for Russia, not as the self-deprecating neo liberals would guilt you into believing. Liberalism is a cancer eating away at the world -- it is inherently false because it goes directly against what it says it does. Hooray for Putin and cheers to Russia for fighting tyrrany wherever it may exist. Russia now stands for what America used to stand for...freedom.

Perhaps you should educate yourself on what's really going on, instead of watching the lies the mainstream media wants you to believe.


take it your russian? we'll never going see eye to eye. russia doesn't stand for freedom. the west doesn't need to be liberated ok? so russia can takes its guns and go back home. how about they deal with china and its globalism.




If you rounded up all of the worthless politicians on Capitol Hill, and stacked them on top of eachother -- they wouldn't have the backbone of Putin. He's no saint, but at least he's got the best interest of his people in his actions. That's a damn sight more than can be said of anyone here.



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16 Apr 2015, 7:28 am

Russia "stands for freedom"? That's why it's a crime to be homosexual, I'm guessing?

Putin has Russia's best interests at heart? That's why his opponents mysteriously die and the general public perceives politicians as far more corrupt than the American public do? (And when was the last time you heard someone praise politicians?)



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16 Apr 2015, 9:32 am

^^^

Yup, this is what Russia looks like

on the inside, for Freedom.

The U.S. is a cakewalk compared to ThIS oppression.



That's just a 'Muslim Extremist' country IN PRACTICE LIKE THIS

with little religion. 'PATRIARCHY', UNLEAShed,

has been the frigging problem,

for around 12K years

or so...

And if 'they' have 'their'
way 'we' will have World WAR 3;

but THANK GOD, 'THEY',
OVERALL,
ARE
A
DYING WAY...

Putin, at 5 foot 7, LIKELY
has 'a form' of so-called
'little man syndrome',
like Napoleon;
and that's
a dangerous
issue, AS
MIXED, AS
unresolved;
particularly
at World
Leader
Status, in all
things that CAN
COME WITH THAT...:)

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/naturally-selected/201405/does-putin-suffer-the-napoleon-complex


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01 Jul 2015, 8:27 am

ActivistPost.com wrote:
When researchers such as myself have reported that the United States is funding al-Qaeda, Nusra, ISIS and other related terror organizations in Syria, we were not kidding. Still, despite the fact that even the U.S. government itself has admitted that it was funding terrorists-- directly and indirectly through Saudi Arabia, the suggestion was met with disbelief, ridicule, or either entirely ignored.

Now, however, the United States government has admitted that it funds terrorists on the ground in Syria yet again, this time placing an individual dollar amount on the assistance provided.

According to the Pentagon, Syrian "rebels" being trained and "vetted" by the United States are receiving "compensation" to the tune of anywhere between $250 to $400 per month to act as America's proxy forces in the Middle East. Reuters reports that the payment levels were confirmed by the Pentagon and also that the Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter and Navy Commander Elissa Smith both separately admitted the fact that these "new" terrorists are receiving a stipend....

ActivistPost.com: "US Admits Paying Terrorists For Services Rendered In Syria" (June 30, 2015)
http://www.activistpost.com/2015/06/us- ... s-for.html

Mercs at $8.33 to $13.33 a day!


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