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27 Feb 2015, 7:58 pm

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It's tragic that one who played the Paradigm of Logic smoked. That's was why he passed away.

Yes, he became a big advocate for quitting and suffered permanent damage, despite quitting.


He was 83 when he died - beating the life expectancy of a white man born in 1931 by 24 years.

I'd argue he both lived long and prospered.



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27 Feb 2015, 9:37 pm

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Humans share 98% of their DNA with Chimpanzees. End of argument.


I'm willing to accept that apes descended from humans.


Humans are Great Apes biologically.


According to ?


Biologists. The scientific name is Hominidae, the group that includes chimps, humans, gorillas and orang utans. The gibbons are considerd lesser apes, although the name sounds a bit demeaning.


I'm not an ape.



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27 Feb 2015, 10:05 pm

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trollcatman wrote:
sophisticated wrote:
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Humans share 98% of their DNA with Chimpanzees. End of argument.


I'm willing to accept that apes descended from humans.


Humans are Great Apes biologically.


According to ?


Biologists. The scientific name is Hominidae, the group that includes chimps, humans, gorillas and orang utans. The gibbons are considerd lesser apes, although the name sounds a bit demeaning.


I'm not an ape.

Without a picture of you, we can't be certain of that. :P


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27 Feb 2015, 10:31 pm

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sophisticated wrote:
trollcatman wrote:
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Humans share 98% of their DNA with Chimpanzees. End of argument.


I'm willing to accept that apes descended from humans.


Humans are Great Apes biologically.


According to ?

http://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/WhoAmI/ ... tives.aspx

Just one of many sources. As I recall, most of the evidence comes from geneticists, but there are also anthropological sources and a few other 'ologies.

Also, as I recall, genetic evidence also demonstrates the direction of change, from species A to species B etc.

It's very late (2.30am), so I'm forgetting my words.


Geneticists are never wrong.



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27 Feb 2015, 10:32 pm

Narrator wrote:
sophisticated wrote:
trollcatman wrote:
sophisticated wrote:
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sophisticated wrote:
badgerface wrote:
Humans share 98% of their DNA with Chimpanzees. End of argument.


I'm willing to accept that apes descended from humans.


Humans are Great Apes biologically.


According to ?


Biologists. The scientific name is Hominidae, the group that includes chimps, humans, gorillas and orang utans. The gibbons are considerd lesser apes, although the name sounds a bit demeaning.


I'm not an ape.

Without a picture of you, we can't be certain of that. :P


In your world, you can never be certain of anything.



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27 Feb 2015, 11:14 pm

I try to have a joke with you and you have to respond by being hostile in return?
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27 Feb 2015, 11:29 pm

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I try to have a joke with you and you have to respond by being hostile in return?
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By suggesting that I'm a monkey ?

Funny joke that is.



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27 Feb 2015, 11:37 pm

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I try to have a joke with you and you have to respond by being hostile in return?
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By suggesting that I'm a monkey ?

Funny joke that is.

Have you never heard of pulling someones leg?

oh.. never mind. I tried.


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28 Feb 2015, 12:53 am

sophisticated wrote:
trollcatman wrote:
sophisticated wrote:
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sophisticated wrote:
badgerface wrote:
Humans share 98% of their DNA with Chimpanzees. End of argument.


I'm willing to accept that apes descended from humans.


Humans are Great Apes biologically.


According to ?


Biologists. The scientific name is Hominidae, the group that includes chimps, humans, gorillas and orang utans. The gibbons are considerd lesser apes, although the name sounds a bit demeaning.


I'm not an ape.


I AM AN APE and Here is the BEST PROOF OF THAT SO FAR.. from just a few hours ago....

AND SOME STUFF ABOUT GOD.. too....

NOTICE the GORILLA SOUNDS; they are MUCH clearer in this evidential video,
And 'Four Five Seconds to WILDIN' TO complement IT, as well.. (Rihanna, McCartney, and West in tow, too)



LEG Pressing 930LBS on Friday, February 27, 2015, at the NASWF Fitness Center. The Leg Press is done on a Nautilus Parallel Free weight machine with 10-45LB weight plates on each side totaling 20-45LB weights at 900LBS, with the approximate weight of the lifting mechanism at 30LBS, for a total of 930LBS.

14 slow reps are accomplished with arms raised to focus strictly on leg movement for increasing maximum leg strength.

The machine normally holds a max of 810LBS, per 18 plates, so the last 45LB weight plate on each side is balanced off the length of the bar, to get to 20 plates.

AS far as I know there is no other parallel leg press machine in my metro area that will hold more weight so I guess I am stuck at this weight continuing to increase reps.

There is no doubt in my mind that I could lift well over one thousand pounds at lower reps at this point but I am stuck at this weight for the foreseeable future, again, it seems. :)

Anyway, I am 54 years old, and weigh in at 233LBS at around 6FT tall, with these clothes on before lifting.

People who tell you everyone gets weaker when they get in their 40's or 50's is going by the average of a very sedentary, overall unhealthy population that simply do not fulfill their fuller human potential.

Jack La LaLanne, a pioneer of strength training in the last century, already proves this is the case towing up to 70 boats swimming into his 60's. Most everything in life is a result of what a person believes are their limits.

Hold no limits, and there are always fewer limits to be realized.

Hold limits, and restrict human potential, as 99% of results are human attitude, I find now in older life FOR SURE. :)

The power of human relative free will mixed with faith, hope, belief, and more than anything the positive power of unconditional pro-social emotions aka Unconditional Love MOVES METAPHORICAL MOUNTAINS FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO EMPLOY THE HIGHER POWER OF MOTHER NATURE TRUE AKA GOD.

IT'S AMAZING, JUST AS THE HUMBLE TEACHER JESUS STATES, PER WHAT IS POSSIBLE FOR HUMAN NATURE MORE FULLY REALIZED AND UNLEASHED from cultural repression, oppression, and subjugation through illusory fears.

That part does not change, for those folks who learn to master their inner human being, away from the material GOD of culture, and illusory GOD(s) of religion.


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28 Feb 2015, 12:56 am

aghogday wrote:
sophisticated wrote:
trollcatman wrote:
sophisticated wrote:
trollcatman wrote:
sophisticated wrote:
badgerface wrote:
Humans share 98% of their DNA with Chimpanzees. End of argument.


I'm willing to accept that apes descended from humans.


Humans are Great Apes biologically.


According to ?


Biologists. The scientific name is Hominidae, the group that includes chimps, humans, gorillas and orang utans. The gibbons are considerd lesser apes, although the name sounds a bit demeaning.


I'm not an ape.


I AM AN APE and Here is the BEST PROOF OF THAT SO FAR.. from just a few hours ago....

AND SOME STUFF ABOUT GOD.. too....

NOTICE the GORILLA SOUNDS, they are MUCH clearer in this evidential video,
And four to five seconds to WILDIN' TO complement IT, as well..

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?vDRAg2_BkKu8[/youtube]

LEG Pressing 930LBS on Friday, February 27, 2015, at the NASWF Fitness Center. The Leg Press is done on a Nautilus Parallel Free weight machine with 10-45LB weight plates on each side totaling 20-45LB weights at 900LBS, with the approximate weight of the lifting mechanism at 30LBS, for a total of 930LBS.

14 slow reps are accomplished with arms raised to focus strictly on leg movement for increasing maximum leg strength.

The machine normally holds a max of 810LBS, per 18 plates, so the last 45LB weight plate on each side is balanced off the length of the bar, to get to 20 plates.

AS far as I know there is no other parallel leg press machine in my metro area that will hold more weight so I guess I am stuck at this weight continuing to increase reps.

There is no doubt in my mind that I could lift well over one thousand pounds at lower reps at this point but I am stuck at this weight for the foreseeable future, again, it seems. :)

Anyway, I am 54 years old, and weigh in at 233LBS at around 6FT tall, with these clothes on before lifting.

People who tell you everyone gets weaker when they get in their 40's or 50's is going by the average of a very sedentary, overall unhealthy population that simply do not fulfill their fuller human potential.

Jack La LaLanne, a pioneer of strength training in the last century, already proves this is the case towing up to 70 boats swimming,ninto his 60's. Most everything in life is a result of what a person believes are their limits.

Hold no limits, and there are always fewer limits to be realized.

Hold limits, and restrict human potential, as 99% of results are human attitude, I find now in older life FOR SURE. :)

The power of human relative free will mixed with faith, hope, belief, and more than anything the positive power of unconditional pro-social emotions aka Unconditional Love MOVES METAPHORICAL MOUNTAINS FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO EMPLOY THE HIGHER POWER OF MOTHER NATURE TRUE AKA GOD.

IT'S AMAZING, JUST AS THE HUMBLE TEACHER JESUS STATES, PER WHAT IS POSSIBLE FOR HUMAN NATURE MORE FULLY REALIZED AND UNLEASHED from cultural repression, oppression, and subjugation through illusory fears.

That part does not change, for those folks who learn to master their inner human being, away from the material GOD of culture, and illusory GOD(s) of religion.


Nobody can dispute the similarities between us and apes.



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28 Feb 2015, 1:21 am

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I'm not an ape.


Yes you are, we all are. That you don't like this, is all about your prejudices and has nothing to do with reality. You can delude yourself all you like but it will not change the fact (and yes I use fact in its literal term) that you are a vertebrate animal, with a close kinship to the other great apes.


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28 Feb 2015, 1:30 am

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I'm not an ape.


Yes you are, we all are. That you don't like this, is all about your prejudices and has nothing to do with reality. You can delude yourself all you like but it will not change the fact (and yes I use fact in its literal term) that you are a vertebrate animal, with a close kinship to the other great apes.


Facts only change in popular science.



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28 Feb 2015, 1:42 am

Ah so science that is accepted as such by the scientifically minded is somehow lessened by its popular acceptance. Or in other words anything which exposes as nonsense the teachings of ancient texts cannot be correct and is therefore flawed.

You are not special, this earth is not special, it was not made by some super being for you to dwell upon. You and I are monumentally insignificant in reference to the solar system, let alone our galaxy and the universe beyond. The universe does not exist for us, we exist because of it.

This by any rational measure is in all likelihood the only existence you will ever experience, there is no ultimate purpose or direction to life. You will die, your atoms will return to the universe and life will move on without you.


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28 Feb 2015, 2:01 am

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Ah so science that is accepted as such by the scientifically minded is somehow lessened by its popular acceptance. Or in other words anything which exposes as nonsense the teachings of ancient texts cannot be correct and is therefore flawed.


It seems to me that you've surrendered to "scientists".

Anything uttered by a scientist (specially the charismatic ones) is pure fact and wisdom ?

There's only one person that I have surrendered myself to and that is God.



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I have surrendered to no one. I accept evidence and change my understanding of nature in relation to the evidence. You on the other hand are almost totally ignorant in relation to our natural world and the sciences which have brought us this knowledge. Despite your ignorance you dismiss science as if you understand it, worse you lie to others about things you simply have no knowledge of. i find this position despicable.


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28 Feb 2015, 2:54 am

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[youtube]https://www.youtue.com/watch?v=rpK3NTygnNw[/youtube]

I have surrendered to no one. I accept evidence and change my understanding of nature in relation to the evidence. You on the other hand are almost totally ignorant in relation to our natural world and the sciences which have brought us this knowledge. Despite your ignorance you dismiss science as if you understand it, worse you lie to others about things you simply have no knowledge of. i find this position despicable.



That woman was waiting for a standing ovation.

ROFL