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26 Nov 2017, 1:55 pm

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Eu immigration is white immigration so its not about race. The majority of people do believe we have too much immigration something like 70% according to YouGov. No one ever voted for mass immigration.

Successive UK governments had the power to change our EU immigration at any moment but chose not to. They are the ones to blame if anyone is.

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26 Nov 2017, 3:17 pm

Very true most immigration is from outside the EU, politicians ignore the people because they can.

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26 Nov 2017, 5:24 pm

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Xenophobia doesn't have to be about race, just fear and hatred of the outsider.

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26 Nov 2017, 7:11 pm

Most people who are against mass immigration do not hate or fear immigrants they just don't want to compete with them for housing or jobs.

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26 Nov 2017, 9:08 pm

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Most people who are against mass immigration do not hate or fear immigrants they just don't want to compete with them for housing or jobs.

I won't argue there are such people, but I will say that there are plenty who do fear and hate the outsider, and who use that pretext to deny immigration to the outsider.

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26 Nov 2017, 9:30 pm

Yeah there are those people but I doubt many Brits fear Polish and Spanish people.

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26 Nov 2017, 9:54 pm

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Yeah there are those people but I doubt many Brits fear Polish and Spanish people.

Maybe they were directing their fear toward dark colored Middle Easterners.

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26 Nov 2017, 10:03 pm

That partly was it, people were worried that the EU would force us to take in Muslim refugees and I think there are very legitimate concerns with that.

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26 Nov 2017, 10:44 pm

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That partly was it, people were worried that the EU would force us to take in Muslim refugees and I think there are very legitimate concerns with that.

What's the alternative? Turn away thousands of desperate people fleeing certain death for fear of a few terrorists?

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26 Nov 2017, 11:01 pm

A government must prioritise its own people, its not just about terrorism but the values that these people hold, Muslims believe a man who at 53 married and molested a 6 year old girl is morally perfect to most western people that is disgusting.

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27 Nov 2017, 12:30 am

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Expose them to western culture, and they'll eventually come around to our values.

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27 Nov 2017, 3:54 am

I genuinely believe that's what the government thought would happen sadly the opposite is true many 2nd generation British Muslims are in fact more conservative than their parents.

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27 Nov 2017, 3:01 pm

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Expose them to western culture, and they'll eventually come around to our values.

Yeah, cause that's worked out great! There are no go areas in the UK and Sweden now. There are areas here that police themselves. You go into certain areas and you don't know which country you are in. This country has been flooded with an uncontrolled barrage of immigrants from across the world. We were never asked about this and anyone who's tried to stop it has been attacked or sacked.

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27 Nov 2017, 3:16 pm

Biscuitman wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

But is xenophobia in Britain tripe?

Absolutely not. Britain is very good at putting on a polite, fair & classy exterior for show, but try living here for a short while and you will see the real Britain start to show. There is a very good reason the Leave.eu campaign when down the path of race, immigration, Islam etc - because it knew what a high % of the population it resonated with.

Well why don't you go elsewhere then if we're such awful people. This country has been far too tolerant. As has most of Europe. A million people just poured into Germany overnight pretty much and you don't expect a reaction? Can't just keep trying to shut people down with slurs.

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27 Nov 2017, 3:29 pm

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There are no go areas in the UKnow.