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19 Jan 2011, 2:19 am

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I always thought socialism meant that the society owns collectively the means of producing the necessities. So utilities and food production etc are publically owned. Whereas non essential items are privately owned. So music industry and car manufacturers would be private.



Socialism means the collective ownership of the means of production. The only thing people could own was their underwear and even that with the permission of society. The collective is superior over the individual. The needs of the Many outweigh the needs of the Few or the One.

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19 Jan 2011, 9:38 am

ruveyn wrote:
Robdemanc wrote:
I always thought socialism meant that the society owns collectively the means of producing the necessities. So utilities and food production etc are publically owned. Whereas non essential items are privately owned. So music industry and car manufacturers would be private.



Socialism means the collective ownership of the means of production. The only thing people could own was their underwear and even that with the permission of society. The collective is superior over the individual. The needs of the Many outweigh the needs of the Few or the One.

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That doesn't sound that much different from rights now. Individual rights don't trump the rights of our societies (except if you make s**t loads of money then you have big rights.)



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19 Jan 2011, 11:44 am

ruveyn wrote:
Robdemanc wrote:
I always thought socialism meant that the society owns collectively the means of producing the necessities. So utilities and food production etc are publically owned. Whereas non essential items are privately owned. So music industry and car manufacturers would be private.



Socialism means the collective ownership of the means of production. The only thing people could own was their underwear and even that with the permission of society. The collective is superior over the individual. The needs of the Many outweigh the needs of the Few or the One.

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This is why I keep thinking of the Borg as essentially socialists.



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19 Jan 2011, 2:34 pm

Canada has socialist policies, and we certainly aren't a dictatorship. In fact, I would count years under Conservative governments as much more stifling to us then social-leaning parties. Frankly I don't think socialism, communism, capitalism or fascism work. All of these are just a few steps ahead of feudalism. There has to be something better and less ideologically driven, and I hope we don't have to wait too much longer for it