What was Jesus' sexual orientation?
I've read into this a little more--apparently priests aren't even supposed to masturbate. Surely you would have to agree that this is silly, and going a tad far.
How are you supposed to take anyone seriously who pontificates that he never masturbates?
Maybe you feel safer about eating the communion wafer this way. But if his stand is "I never masturbate, and you should never use condoms", then who is going to take him seriously? Even birth rates among Catholics aren't what they used to be.
If I'm talking to my priest, I'm pretty darn sure that one thing we won't be discussing is whether or not he masturbates.
I don't know how many follow that rule and I have zero desire to find out; that is a level of privacy I don't think should be invaded. Not every rule everywhere is going to be followed all the time, and that includes priests. Assuming you are correct that this is part of the rule; it's not something I've ever looked into. Lol, I can't believed I've actually bothered to post on the subject!
The rest of celibacy serves a rather practical purpose, and those I've known who have entered the priesthood have tended to feel that it was an OK thing to ask of them. Even if it was horribly difficult.
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Even raised Catholic I think my understanding came to be that it was a decision made by the church after a particular saint decided to take the vow of celibacy and give all of their belongings to the church - the organization liked the increase of funds. If this is the case this may simply be a decision made 'back in the day' that's blowing up on them now, they'll have to chew over whether or not to repeal the decision for a while.
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Next Sunday, be sure to ask him for me.
I'd imagine they do and further hope that they do. To ignore one's sexuality is like ignoring one's anything - if you pretend a part of yourself doesn't exist, especially for image or really believing that's the way to make it go away, things are very likely to go sideways. If God didn't stop Hitler, Stalin, or Mao (assuming that he does exist), why would anyone think he'll change a priest's fundamental genetic makeup to make his drives disappear?
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I'd imagine they do and further hope that they do. To ignore one's sexuality is like ignoring one's anything - if you pretend a part of yourself doesn't exist, especially for image or really believing that's the way to make it go away, things are very likely to go sideways. If God didn't stop Hitler, Stalin, or Mao (assuming that he does exist), why would anyone think he'll change a priest's fundamental genetic makeup to make his drives disappear?
Here we go again trying to puzzle out why God is such an idiotic screw-up. In general, from a human standpoint and judging by his actions, God seems to be some sort of supernatural kid with a sadistic trace and a great sense of humor amusing himself with the antics of humans that he assembled from some sort of organic detritus and provided with insane conflicting impulses.
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Not at all. Simply wondering why anyone would find it repulsive that a priest would masturbate if they've paid much attention to the world around them and how it really works. Full celibacy apparently didn't work out well for Origen.
I have no idea. If there is an actual 'God' I first of all don't think anyone knows him/her or what he/she wants, likely every world religion has been placed to concretely impact cause and effect in certain ways, by that deity, perhaps not in truth but truth in terms of making us face ourselves, that we're here for nothing more than the experience. People will, by their nature, try to sort out truth from whatever corners or facets of the world around them that they can - supposed divine inspiration is a common source but not the only and one that I tend to be largely skeptical of.
It seems odd to me that a priest should earn special admiration and awe for giving up masturbation.
Protestant preachers do marry and do "know" their wives (as Adam knew Eve), but, merely as a matter of fulfilling a civic responsibility--something like voting.
Once they have fulfilled their civic duties, then I guess that there isn't much difference between Catholic and Protestant preachers. Well, maybe Protestant preachers never bother to study Latin any more.
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Protestant preachers do marry and do "know" their wives (as Adam knew Eve), but, merely as a matter of fulfilling a civic responsibility--something like voting.
Once they have fulfilled their civic duties, then I guess that there isn't much difference between Catholic and Protestant preachers. Well, maybe Protestant preachers never bother to study Latin any more.
This might come as a shock - most of the people I know who go to church and are married, especially within 10 years of me, really get into it. In fact a lot of them will watch porn to set the mood occasionally. Some married clergy may be this way, not sure I see the need, I heard Shania Twain had this kind of idea - her choice. Sex gets to be a problem when you live for it above all other things, something of paradoxical equality in terms of disruption happens if you fret about or fear its supposed 'sinfulness' (which makes absolutely no sense - even in the gospels 'man should not lay alone', the idea that was always given seemed to be that fornication and adultery were the bad part, if you want to be Quagmire from Family Guy with your wife or vice a verse and that's how you guys get down - go for it!).
Well, well, well. It turns out that Jesus was married after all.
http://news.yahoo.com/jesus-had-wife-ne ... 27064.html
The title is not appropriate for the content of the article. Also, the article is not appropriate for the events described.
The source is an unidentified fragment. We don't know anything about it, except that it wasn't a forgery, apparently.
The only appropriate quote is this (italics mine):
"This fragment suggests that some early Christians had a tradition that Jesus was married," King said. "There was, we already know, a controversy in the second century over whether Jesus was married, caught up with a debate about whether Christians should marry and have sex."
We now know more about early Christians, not about Jesus. This is great news, just not the one you would like.
That would be a twist if he was bisexual and was crucified for coming on to Judas and Judas was a homophobe and decided to turn Jesus in to the Romans.
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This opens the possibility that some people are descended from Jesus Christ. Wouldn't that be wicked? The downside to this news is that Dan Brown's ego just grew to dangerous proportions.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't the Romans okay with homosexuality at the time? I was under the impression the Romans didn't develop homophobia until after the rise of the Roman Catholic Church.