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It's not a similar situation, or a reversal of the situation. Its a different situation involving a different issue.

From your link: She was presented by Channel 4 as an authentic - but anonymous - voice of moderate British Islam.
And on Christmas Day the veiled woman described only as "Khadijah" was given a national televison platform for propagating her views in an "alternative Christmas message" designed to rival the Queen's.
She told viewers Jack Straw was wrong to criticise the veil, claiming concealing facial features "liberated" women.
But the Daily Mail can now unveil "Khadijah" - and reveal that she is in fact Elaine Atkinson, an English convert to Islam who travels the country working for a radical muslim group trying to take political control of Pakistan.

Yeah, I've seen that article too. Got anything that hasn't come through THE MAIL? And you wonder why I place you in with Mail readers? That article appears word for word in the Mail website. HERE: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... gette.html

Na, and i'm not gonna waste time trying to explain something you don't understand.

Yeah, I didn't say it wasn't from the mail. Think its one of the only times i've actually posted something from that paper.

Yeah, I don't understand why you insist on thinking that two different situations are the same, or why you insist on sticking to your "white atheist" hypothesis when it is utterly unlike the original problem. Apart from the fact it involves "teachers".

Using material sourced from that rag gives you about the same credibility as the yanks give to people who quote Fox as fact. You never said it wasn't fro the Mail, but you make such a fuss about NOT using the mail, only to then go ahead and use it. I mean you must have READ that article before you posted it, surely? So you KNEW it was from them. Did you not think that it might just reinforce my point?

"Don't stereotype me, I'm not a Mail Reader. Here's an article from the Daily Mail supporting my viewpoint."

That or you DIDN'T read it properly, which slightly brings in to question your comprehension of.. almost anything that has come before.

A white atheist student complaining is just an opposite of a couloured Muslim complaining. It was just an example to show that a white person who isn't religious would have their demands laughed off.

Again, you'll have to learn that your opinion doesn't mean its true, though i'm sure a lot of their storries are blown out of proportion, and miss parts that a left wing paper would leave out, but vice versa, the left wing paper will do exactly the same. Yep, I knew it was from the Mail, and I knew you'd react like this. I was going to say something like "and yeah, I know its from the Mail". I actually didn't say something cause I thought you'd have some proof to show it isn't true, maybe it isn't, I don't know. And believe what you want.

I can post a link from the Mail if I want, doesn't mean i'm a Mail reader. I've posted links from the Mirror, does that make me a stereotypical left wing Mirror reader? You're pigeon-holing again, doing something, that you hate yourself. People agree that, that is pure hypocrisy.

Muslims are problem everywhere, they just can't integrate.

This is obviously a sensitive topic. But I am hoping that with all of the revolutions going on in the Middle-East, they might finally have democracy. If they end up with Western-style systems (slightly unlikely) they will likely not support Sharia law. Thereby setting a precedent themselves that Sharia is not okay in a democracy. Thus we can enforce our ban without guilt because their own homelands set the precedent. In any case, I hope that democracy comes to them, because perhaps that will stop the outflow to our countries. I am not against Islam and I have met many nice Muslims but many are not trying to compromise with us and I have also met many Muslims who come here with a typically superior attitude. So if they can all just go home and have the same rights then maybe they won't need to immigrate. I hope my view doesn't offend anybody

Sharia is a part of Islam, sorry, but your post is a wishful thinking. Muslims also want Islam all over the world that is another reason for emigration. Do not allow these people in your countries otherwise you will see more of 9/11,madrid, london, russia etc.

Not all Muslims are into sharia... I have heard about the so-called 'Silent Jihad' of immigration but I find it hard to swallow when so few Westerners are converting to Islam... I would say Islam like most other religions is in for a slow decline

Although, I have not read this book, I wish to, but I believe what it has to say in general. Even when in decline Islam has highest birth rates.

Who said anyone involved in this was coloured? See? You're bringing race into the argument when race wasn't an issue. Nobody said they didn't want to go to lessons because the teachers were White. Also, do other religious groups really get laughed out? Examples? Way back at the start I pointed out about the Witness kids excused assemblies at my school by way of an example, and you decided that was irrelevant to a discussion about religious kids at schools wanted to be excused certain lessons. I'm sure some other people mentioned other religious groups in the states as well.

The article itself makes contradictions between what the Mail says is the case and what the woman herself claims to have said. Who am I most given to believe? The Nazi Source-Book for Modern Life, which provably makes s**t up all the time?

With all the revolutions going on in the Middle-East, things are only bound to get worse, especially in Egypt. There's such a mixture of religions in the country, and with the last 30 years, its just going to errupt into mayhem now.

Unless Egypt devolves into a situation like Iraq or Afghanistan, it can't get much worse than it was. The police were beating, killing, and disappearing people all the time under Mubarak. They used to just deny it, but withe the advent of cell phone cams, videos of police grabbing and beating people were starting to show up on the internet.

What happens in Egypt probably won't be good for the U.S. (probably have to find a new country to render our prisoners to be tortured in, for example, and they'll probably open the border into Gaza and effectively end the blockade), but I think that there's a 70% chance or so that it'll be better for the Egyptian people.

Obviously they are coloured, if they're Muslims and coloured then they'll have 2 cards to play. I'm just giving an example of why a white atheist wouldn't want to attend a class, rather than a coloured Muslim. Obviously its not as easy to find a reason why such a person would find a certain class offensive, where as, it'd be easy to find several examples why a Muslim student wouldn't want to attend a class, or why they want to change the class to suit them, cause they can get away with it. Cause you jumped straight off the subject of Muslims to another religion. Muslims make more demands when living in our western countries than any other religious people. People are getting fed up with it, just seeing a woman walking around with a burkha today in the supermarket, its all wrong. But lets not go into burkha's.

Maybe it makes up stuff all the time, like most papers do. Its not to say that particular story isn't true. It was pretty outrageous to have such a thing on christmas day anyway.

Obviously they're coloured? Despite us having the whole conversation about White Muslims? Yes, very obviously. They MUST be coloured.

Your example still has nothing to do with the OP situation.

I cited a perfectly relevant example of another religious group getting special treatment that nobody gives a f**k about. There are plenty of others, that's just the one I know of personally. I'm fairly sure now I think on it that the Sikh kid never did assembly either.

Go on. Tell me all about all the other religions you know loads about who never ask for exceptions or demand things, here or in Canada or anywhere else. And there you manage to jump from religious-based educational requests to choice of clothing. Why is it "all wrong"? Because she isn't some lardy white western woman with a huge muffin-top in leggings that show more than anyone wants to see? Far as I care, they can wear what they like. Wouldn't hurt if some of the hideous acres of pasty goose-flesh that we get on our streets covered up a bit either. Its not pretty. However, an "educated persian" I once knew pointed out that there is something terribly attractive about a really nice pair of eyes, and that mystery is a great part of attraction and romance. Ass-out over-made-up trull is just about rutting and very little else.

Completely agree with. Here in India several temples get demolished because they were built on govt. lands and nothing happens later but when a mosque is destroyed similarly then belligerent Muslims protest very strongly and fight with police which they find them enemy of Islam and this is the case every where in the world. Just google for Christian protest, Muslim protest and Hindu protest and see how many entries you get for each of them.

So the fact that when their temple is threatened, the Muslims make a stand, and other religions just let it happen without making a fuss, makes Muslims bad? Since when was "sitting there and taking it in the ass" a commendable thing? They defend what they believe in. That doesn't make them evil. I defend what I believe in too.