Does anyone else agree with feminism?

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They're certainly related. If a woman in a marriage chooses to terminate a pregnancy, she doesn't even have to tell her husband.
However, if they divorce, she'll usually get the right to take care of the children, and he'll be forced by law to pay her for that.
Just another shining example of rights without responsibilities.



Is it their responsibility to be sent off to war through conscription? Where I live, that's not the case, but men can be called up if the government wants to.
I don't see feminism opposing that, even though going either way from the status quo (conscription for all; conscription for none) would solve that issue immediately.
So, that changes the situation. They do not have the same amount of responsibility, but they have more rights (set percentage of them in boardrooms, special courses in university).

Yet the women who benefit from these things are also the women who keep traditional role patterns in place when it comes to social situations.
For example, they have guys doing their school work for them and they're bragging about it; or they expect men to pay for dates.

C'est ça, for the slow readers among feminists, that is my issue with feminism. It should only be equal if they were at a disadvantage.
I've brought up some of my points, and sadly, I haven't heard any from them.

^ Child support rather than alimony. But alimony can be applicable to this subject at times, too.

Ah - my apologies, then. English is not my first language, and alimentatie is the Dutch word for that.

Yeah, I figured it was a language issue. I knew what you meant

In English - child support is the money paid from one parent to the primary caregiver in order for them to be able to care for the child. Alimony is money paid to a former spouse by one who has a much larger income than the other in order for the poorer mate to be able to keep a certain standard of living, children are not required.

In Soviet Russia, a lot of men love to make women look bad! (go figure! )

Oh I see..........So strippers are low class? I actually know someone who did and she came from an upper middle class background. If there is one thing that 2nd wave feminists really hate, it is female exhibitionism.

And how do you think people in a capitalist world acquire the money they have? Well, they SELL something to other people! Strippers are selling sexual entertainment and making money off of men! WTF makes you think that all strip club patrons are wealthy? Some of them are, but most aren't.



This just in: An important message from Hipster Feminist:

alimony != child support. you're mixing those things up completely.

did you know that on average men are better off than women after a divorce, even after factoring in alimony and child support? men profit more after a divorce than women do.

Putting this in here - 'tis a language thing. Some false friends still confuse me. 'Alimentatie' roughly translates to 'child support', then.
As for financial situations - in a truly equal society, I'd expect people to take responsibility. If one party want to take care of the children, they should be able to provide for them on their own.

We've already established this as a language issue and proper clarification has been made above.


What if they don't want to care for the children, though? Someone has to. Sometimes people are mandated custody by the court.

that doesn't make sense. both parties had the child to begin with.

That's not always true. It is possible for a female to become pregnant without the consent of the male by secretly stopping her birth control or something. It is also possible for everyone to take every precautions and for a child to be concieved by accident. (Although everyone should understand this possibility from simply the act of consentual copulation, when you agree to sleep with someone you are essentially agreeing to the possibility of babies.. but that isn't always the way everyone looks at it.)

Its also possible for someone to keep a female in a basement and force her to bear and raise his children and this has happened in the past too.

Reprehensible acts, but my point is that sometimes children can occur without the consent of both parties.

he is still the father, regardless. yes it can occur without the consent of both parties, but that doesn't mean one party is less responsible. having sex carries a risk of pregnancy. if a person is that concerned about pregnancy, they should not be engaging in sex. it's pretty straightforward.

I said that, too.

My response was based on your statement "both parties had the baby" which seems to indicate consent when in the context of HisDivineMajesty's comment regarding "wanting" the child. If your comment was not regarding consent, then my response does not apply.

As a side note, its also possible for someone to have children without having sex if someone managed to obtain a semen sample.. Can't say for sure that's ever happened, though.

I wish there were more women like Myth around here.....And in the world in general.

Last edited by AspieRogue on 03 Apr 2012, 4:39 pm, edited 2 times in total.

yeah, i was agreeing with you.

I'm a male and I agree with feminism, I think it's wrong to discriminate against someone because of their gender or sexual orientation. Also it's perfectly natural for men be in touch with their feminine side and vice versa.