22 Feb 2015, 10:23 pm
22 Feb 2015, 10:25 pm
sophisticated wrote:
Narrator wrote:
sophisticated wrote:
Narrator wrote:
sophisticated wrote:
God did not create evil, he merely created a being that can do evil.
It's pretty straight forward. Over 200,000 people in Ache Indonesia, half of them children, dead through no fault but nature. And according to Christianity, they're on their way to eternal pain and suffering because they were not born in a Christian country. Those deaths were not men doing evil. But that pronouncement is evil. God is love? No, God is a fiction people use to judge others with. Christians often talk about the immorality of atheism. What about the immorality of judging innocent people as being worthy of suffering for eternity? And then hiding behind God as the proxy for such judgement?
Nobody dies.
Death is just a transition to another world.
And children don't go to hell.
Hell will be filled with people who wanted to be there.
If God says to you : "Don't kill otherwise you will go to hell" .
Killing someone then becomes another way of telling God : "I want to go to hell".
When I was a Christian, I cherry-picked like that too.
We like to pick the obvious cases - the killer goes to hell etc - but what about the unsung Gandhi types of the world? Christianity sends them to an eternity of suffering along with the murderers.
Anyone who knowingly engages in idolatry is going to eternal hell fire.
You mean like Roman Catholics?
22 Feb 2015, 10:26 pm
trollcatman wrote:
sophisticated wrote:
Narrator wrote:
sophisticated wrote:
Narrator wrote:
sophisticated wrote:
God did not create evil, he merely created a being that can do evil.
It's pretty straight forward. Over 200,000 people in Ache Indonesia, half of them children, dead through no fault but nature. And according to Christianity, they're on their way to eternal pain and suffering because they were not born in a Christian country. Those deaths were not men doing evil. But that pronouncement is evil. God is love? No, God is a fiction people use to judge others with. Christians often talk about the immorality of atheism. What about the immorality of judging innocent people as being worthy of suffering for eternity? And then hiding behind God as the proxy for such judgement?
Nobody dies.
Death is just a transition to another world.
And children don't go to hell.
Hell will be filled with people who wanted to be there.
If God says to you : "Don't kill otherwise you will go to hell" .
Killing someone then becomes another way of telling God : "I want to go to hell".
When I was a Christian, I cherry-picked like that too.
We like to pick the obvious cases - the killer goes to hell etc - but what about the unsung Gandhi types of the world? Christianity sends them to an eternity of suffering along with the murderers.
Anyone who knowingly engages in idolatry is going to eternal hell fire.
You mean like Roman Catholics?
Yes.
22 Feb 2015, 10:31 pm
22 Feb 2015, 10:40 pm
22 Feb 2015, 11:12 pm
22 Feb 2015, 11:21 pm
22 Feb 2015, 11:40 pm
sophisticated wrote:
Narrator wrote:
hmmm.... well.....
If you go with the original meaning of idolatry - graven images etc - then there's not a lot of that about now. But of course, we now have photos, which they didn't have back in Biblical times. So there is an argument that people who idolize celebrities or sports-people or even politicians (God help them.. lol) could be thought of as idolaters.
But.......
I'm not sure that has anything to do with what we were discussing.
If you go with the original meaning of idolatry - graven images etc - then there's not a lot of that about now. But of course, we now have photos, which they didn't have back in Biblical times. So there is an argument that people who idolize celebrities or sports-people or even politicians (God help them.. lol) could be thought of as idolaters.
But.......
I'm not sure that has anything to do with what we were discussing.
If Ghandi knowingly engaged in idolatry, he is going to hell forever.
Idolatry = knowingly worshipping other than God.
As I said, hell will be filled with people who want to be there.
Well, if idolatry means knowingly worshipping other than GOD, in that case, as you define GOD, you are already sending your own self to hell, if you worship the man named Jesus.
People who worry about hell already make a hell for themselves.
In other words, you are worshipping hell here by suggesting that hell is separate from GOD.
IF GoD IS ALL to WORSHIP ALL IS TO WORSHIP GOD, AND THAT includes everything 'else' that IS ALL, including 'the KING', Elvis, if ya like, and even the Imaginary Jesus who some folks call the FRIGGING KING OF THE UNIVERSE, per the imaginary myth part.
GOD AIN'T TOO SMALL TO 'OVERLOOK' SMALL HUMAN BEINGS.
Madonna and NIETZSCHE SAY basicAlly THE SAME THING, AS THEY ARE ALREADY IN CONTACT WITH GOD DIRECTLY, the TRUE GOD OF NATURE, THE TRUTH AND THE LIGHT AS ONE, per ILLUMINATI ENLIGHTENMENT, and no, not the conspiracy Illuminati like the conspiracy of hell.
MADONNA AND NIETZSCHE ARE TRUE REPREsenTATIVES OF THE one TRUE GOD OF MOTHER NATURE TRUE...
OF COURSE, in JUST MY opinion.
AND here's the REST OF THE evidence in less than 10 minutes....
Enjoy, if ya will, and or like.
22 Feb 2015, 11:53 pm
23 Feb 2015, 12:18 am
23 Feb 2015, 12:24 am
aghogday wrote:
sophisticated wrote:
Narrator wrote:
hmmm.... well.....
If you go with the original meaning of idolatry - graven images etc - then there's not a lot of that about now. But of course, we now have photos, which they didn't have back in Biblical times. So there is an argument that people who idolize celebrities or sports-people or even politicians (God help them.. lol) could be thought of as idolaters.
But.......
I'm not sure that has anything to do with what we were discussing.
If you go with the original meaning of idolatry - graven images etc - then there's not a lot of that about now. But of course, we now have photos, which they didn't have back in Biblical times. So there is an argument that people who idolize celebrities or sports-people or even politicians (God help them.. lol) could be thought of as idolaters.
But.......
I'm not sure that has anything to do with what we were discussing.
If Ghandi knowingly engaged in idolatry, he is going to hell forever.
Idolatry = knowingly worshipping other than God.
As I said, hell will be filled with people who want to be there.
Well, if idolatry means knowingly worshipping other than GOD, in that case, as you define GOD, you are already sending your own self to hell, if you worship the man named Jesus.
People who worry about hell already make a hell for themselves.
In other words, you are worshipping hell here by suggesting that hell is separate from GOD.
IF GoD IS ALL to WORSHIP ALL IS TO WORSHIP GOD, AND THAT includes everything 'else' that IS ALL, including 'the KING', Elvis, if ya like, and even the Imaginary Jesus who some folks call the FRIGGING KING OF THE UNIVERSE, per the imaginary myth part.
GOD AIN'T TOO SMALL TO 'OVERLOOK' SMALL HUMAN BEINGS.
Madonna and NIETZSCHE SAY basicAlly THE SAME THING, AS THEY ARE ALREADY IN CONTACT WITH GOD DIRECTLY, the TRUE GOD OF NATURE, THE TRUTH AND THE LIGHT AS ONE, per ILLUMINATI ENLIGHTENMENT, and no, not the conspiracy Illuminati like the conspiracy of hell.
MADONNA AND NIETZSCHE ARE TRUE REPREsenTATIVES OF THE one TRUE GOD OF MOTHER NATURE TRUE...
OF COURSE, in JUST MY opinion.
AND here's the REST OF THE evidence in less than 10 minutes....
Enjoy, if ya will, and or like.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhLRoTB70g[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9h7eiyvc8[/youtube]
Oh okay.
God is everthing and everything is God right ?
Is God inside your toilet bowl ?
23 Feb 2015, 1:05 am
sophisticated wrote:
aghogday wrote:
sophisticated wrote:
Narrator wrote:
hmmm.... well.....
If you go with the original meaning of idolatry - graven images etc - then there's not a lot of that about now. But of course, we now have photos, which they didn't have back in Biblical times. So there is an argument that people who idolize celebrities or sports-people or even politicians (God help them.. lol) could be thought of as idolaters.
But.......
I'm not sure that has anything to do with what we were discussing.
If you go with the original meaning of idolatry - graven images etc - then there's not a lot of that about now. But of course, we now have photos, which they didn't have back in Biblical times. So there is an argument that people who idolize celebrities or sports-people or even politicians (God help them.. lol) could be thought of as idolaters.
But.......
I'm not sure that has anything to do with what we were discussing.
If Ghandi knowingly engaged in idolatry, he is going to hell forever.
Idolatry = knowingly worshipping other than God.
As I said, hell will be filled with people who want to be there.
Well, if idolatry means knowingly worshipping other than GOD, in that case, as you define GOD, you are already sending your own self to hell, if you worship the man named Jesus.
People who worry about hell already make a hell for themselves.
In other words, you are worshipping hell here by suggesting that hell is separate from GOD.
IF GoD IS ALL to WORSHIP ALL IS TO WORSHIP GOD, AND THAT includes everything 'else' that IS ALL, including 'the KING', Elvis, if ya like, and even the Imaginary Jesus who some folks call the FRIGGING KING OF THE UNIVERSE, per the imaginary myth part.
GOD AIN'T TOO SMALL TO 'OVERLOOK' SMALL HUMAN BEINGS.
Madonna and NIETZSCHE SAY basicAlly THE SAME THING, AS THEY ARE ALREADY IN CONTACT WITH GOD DIRECTLY, the TRUE GOD OF NATURE, THE TRUTH AND THE LIGHT AS ONE, per ILLUMINATI ENLIGHTENMENT, and no, not the conspiracy Illuminati like the conspiracy of hell.
MADONNA AND NIETZSCHE ARE TRUE REPREsenTATIVES OF THE one TRUE GOD OF MOTHER NATURE TRUE...
OF COURSE, in JUST MY opinion.
AND here's the REST OF THE evidence in less than 10 minutes....
Enjoy, if ya will, and or like.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhLRoTB70g[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9h7eiyvc8[/youtube]
Oh okay.
God is everthing and everything is God right ?
Is God inside your toilet bowl ?
It depends on if your 'sh**' is holy.
'Mine' has been referenced as such, as documented here.
And now my 'sh**' is up to 930LBS and perhaps THAT makes IT divine.
23 Feb 2015, 1:06 am
sophisticated wrote:
aghogday wrote:
sophisticated wrote:
Narrator wrote:
hmmm.... well.....
If you go with the original meaning of idolatry - graven images etc - then there's not a lot of that about now. But of course, we now have photos, which they didn't have back in Biblical times. So there is an argument that people who idolize celebrities or sports-people or even politicians (God help them.. lol) could be thought of as idolaters.
But.......
I'm not sure that has anything to do with what we were discussing.
If you go with the original meaning of idolatry - graven images etc - then there's not a lot of that about now. But of course, we now have photos, which they didn't have back in Biblical times. So there is an argument that people who idolize celebrities or sports-people or even politicians (God help them.. lol) could be thought of as idolaters.
But.......
I'm not sure that has anything to do with what we were discussing.
If Ghandi knowingly engaged in idolatry, he is going to hell forever.
Idolatry = knowingly worshipping other than God.
As I said, hell will be filled with people who want to be there.
Well, if idolatry means knowingly worshipping other than GOD, in that case, as you define GOD, you are already sending your own self to hell, if you worship the man named Jesus.
I don't worship Jesus.
Thanks for clarifying. That is refreshing to know.
23 Feb 2015, 1:26 am
aghogday wrote:
sophisticated wrote:
aghogday wrote:
sophisticated wrote:
Narrator wrote:
hmmm.... well.....
If you go with the original meaning of idolatry - graven images etc - then there's not a lot of that about now. But of course, we now have photos, which they didn't have back in Biblical times. So there is an argument that people who idolize celebrities or sports-people or even politicians (God help them.. lol) could be thought of as idolaters.
But.......
I'm not sure that has anything to do with what we were discussing.
If you go with the original meaning of idolatry - graven images etc - then there's not a lot of that about now. But of course, we now have photos, which they didn't have back in Biblical times. So there is an argument that people who idolize celebrities or sports-people or even politicians (God help them.. lol) could be thought of as idolaters.
But.......
I'm not sure that has anything to do with what we were discussing.
If Ghandi knowingly engaged in idolatry, he is going to hell forever.
Idolatry = knowingly worshipping other than God.
As I said, hell will be filled with people who want to be there.
Well, if idolatry means knowingly worshipping other than GOD, in that case, as you define GOD, you are already sending your own self to hell, if you worship the man named Jesus.
People who worry about hell already make a hell for themselves.
In other words, you are worshipping hell here by suggesting that hell is separate from GOD.
IF GoD IS ALL to WORSHIP ALL IS TO WORSHIP GOD, AND THAT includes everything 'else' that IS ALL, including 'the KING', Elvis, if ya like, and even the Imaginary Jesus who some folks call the FRIGGING KING OF THE UNIVERSE, per the imaginary myth part.
GOD AIN'T TOO SMALL TO 'OVERLOOK' SMALL HUMAN BEINGS.
Madonna and NIETZSCHE SAY basicAlly THE SAME THING, AS THEY ARE ALREADY IN CONTACT WITH GOD DIRECTLY, the TRUE GOD OF NATURE, THE TRUTH AND THE LIGHT AS ONE, per ILLUMINATI ENLIGHTENMENT, and no, not the conspiracy Illuminati like the conspiracy of hell.
MADONNA AND NIETZSCHE ARE TRUE REPREsenTATIVES OF THE one TRUE GOD OF MOTHER NATURE TRUE...
OF COURSE, in JUST MY opinion.
AND here's the REST OF THE evidence in less than 10 minutes....
Enjoy, if ya will, and or like.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhLRoTB70g[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9h7eiyvc8[/youtube]
Oh okay.
God is everthing and everything is God right ?
Is God inside your toilet bowl ?
It depends on if your 'sh**' is holy.
'Mine' has been referenced as such, as documented here.
And now my 'sh**' is up to 930LBS and perhaps THAT makes IT divine.
So God is in your toilet bowl ?
23 Feb 2015, 2:14 am
23 Feb 2015, 2:32 am
sophisticated wrote:
aghogday wrote:
sophisticated wrote:
aghogday wrote:
sophisticated wrote:
Narrator wrote:
hmmm.... well.....
If you go with the original meaning of idolatry - graven images etc - then there's not a lot of that about now. But of course, we now have photos, which they didn't have back in Biblical times. So there is an argument that people who idolize celebrities or sports-people or even politicians (God help them.. lol) could be thought of as idolaters.
But.......
I'm not sure that has anything to do with what we were discussing.
If you go with the original meaning of idolatry - graven images etc - then there's not a lot of that about now. But of course, we now have photos, which they didn't have back in Biblical times. So there is an argument that people who idolize celebrities or sports-people or even politicians (God help them.. lol) could be thought of as idolaters.
But.......
I'm not sure that has anything to do with what we were discussing.
If Ghandi knowingly engaged in idolatry, he is going to hell forever.
Idolatry = knowingly worshipping other than God.
As I said, hell will be filled with people who want to be there.
Well, if idolatry means knowingly worshipping other than GOD, in that case, as you define GOD, you are already sending your own self to hell, if you worship the man named Jesus.
People who worry about hell already make a hell for themselves.
In other words, you are worshipping hell here by suggesting that hell is separate from GOD.
IF GoD IS ALL to WORSHIP ALL IS TO WORSHIP GOD, AND THAT includes everything 'else' that IS ALL, including 'the KING', Elvis, if ya like, and even the Imaginary Jesus who some folks call the FRIGGING KING OF THE UNIVERSE, per the imaginary myth part.
GOD AIN'T TOO SMALL TO 'OVERLOOK' SMALL HUMAN BEINGS.
Madonna and NIETZSCHE SAY basicAlly THE SAME THING, AS THEY ARE ALREADY IN CONTACT WITH GOD DIRECTLY, the TRUE GOD OF NATURE, THE TRUTH AND THE LIGHT AS ONE, per ILLUMINATI ENLIGHTENMENT, and no, not the conspiracy Illuminati like the conspiracy of hell.
MADONNA AND NIETZSCHE ARE TRUE REPREsenTATIVES OF THE one TRUE GOD OF MOTHER NATURE TRUE...
OF COURSE, in JUST MY opinion.
AND here's the REST OF THE evidence in less than 10 minutes....
Enjoy, if ya will, and or like.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhLRoTB70g[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9h7eiyvc8[/youtube]
Oh okay.
God is everthing and everything is God right ?
Is God inside your toilet bowl ?
It depends on if your 'sh**' is holy.
'Mine' has been referenced as such, as documented here.
And now my 'sh**' is up to 930LBS and perhaps THAT makes IT divine.
So God is in your toilet bowl ?
FIRST ThEre is DARK.. then theRE is LIGHt inSpiRing movement or dance.. then sound or song.. insPiRing poetry in word later.. and song or sound to inspiRe..FUELING dance or movement aGAIN for the cycle and the flow of creativity in Infinity.. to continue standing tall in an 8 flow of CREATION ACTIVITY that goes on and on and on ONE RIVER.. FLOW.. ONE OCEAN OF GOD FOR ALLASISIS..nOW.
So yeah, GOD IS THE WATER OF LIFE AND ALLTHATIS AKA MOTHER NATURE TRUE AKA GOD MOST DEFINITELY LIVES IN THE TOILET BOWLS OF LIFE TOO....
BUT of course YOU can choose the OUTHOUSE OF HELL TOO that part is UP TO YOU.
GOD WILL LET YA DO THAT, no matter how much IT HURTS YA.... IN YOUR imagination of course.. only..... and imagination per nightmares instead of dreams can get very well like hell on earth in death in life...FULL STOP paper thin existence where each second is a thousand years of hell.
I choose a thousand years of heaven every second now and I live in this place of heaven now always now PER relative Human FREE WILL gifted by GOD NOW.
One CAN live wherever one likes, if one 'pays' the 'price' OR 'COST' with HUMAN RELATIVE FREE WILL or NOT.
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